(04-21-2023, 09:14 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2023, 12:40 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]If we take a TE in the first round, this would be where I start to question Balke's ability to be a GM. Unless the guy he takes is Travis Kelce 2.0, i'm perfectly fine with Engram.
(04-21-2023, 03:48 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I've not followed this years draft much, so I can't speak to the talent of whatever tight ends you guys are wanting to pick.. but what I do know is that usually the good tight ends are found late in the draft, TE's are apparently really difficult to evaluate in terms of translating to the NFL because rarely do the guys going early pan out to be that guy. And even if they are good they rarely make a huge impact. So yeah, if we're sitting at 24 and theres a guy who looks like he could be the next Travis Kelce.. go for it.. but also right now our offense looks pretty damn good and we need to build the OL and the Defense more so than a backup tight end.
While I think our team is on the up swing, I don't think we are in a position to take a luxury pick like a TE right now, at least not in the first round.
back to back posts, well done.
So if Baalke takes a TE early, you question his skills, even though you're really not familiar with the guys he's looking at? 10-4.
When you're in win now mode like the Jaguars seem to be, I do think using up a valuable resource to draft a backup player at a position that isn't nearly as valuable as the actual needs of this team (Oline/Dline/DBs) would be a questionable move for Balke to make. Now, you can correct me if i'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Kyle Pitts was drafted a couple years ago and nobody in this class seems to be some special talent that's just waiting to burst into the NFL like Travis Kelce.
The only scenario we take a TE at 24 is if Engram wont play on the tag or wont sign a long term deal, and even if that happened which it wont I highly doubt there is gonna be a tight end available at 24 that would make more of an impact to this team than the best available ol/dl/dbs at that spot.
(04-21-2023, 11:52 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2023, 04:46 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Was interesting to hear Doug speak on the TE room. He said he's always had a great TE room everywhere he's been and he always likes to make it as great as possible for his QB
It's the one thing we've never truly had here.
At best we've had a good TE here wih little to no quality depth behind the starter.
But we've never had what I would consider a "great" TE here, much less two on the same team.
That could add some new dimensions tothe offense if we get the right guy.
Good TE's are regularly found outside of the 1st round of the draft, it's a crapshoot as usual for any position but we have much more pressing needs than a second tight end currently. Unless they think whomever they draft is gonna be the next Gronk/Kelce, I doubt we're going that direction at 24.
(04-26-2023, 07:30 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/pff/status/165104996...915L-t18Xg
I would definitely do this.
If that's the asking price? Sign me up. We can still package our fourth and/or sixth round picks to creep back inside the 3rd RD to nab another starting caliber player.
(04-26-2023, 07:30 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/pff/status/165104996...915L-t18Xg
I would definitely do this.
Jags never do anything good with a 6th round pick. I can’t think of anything. The third round is important, but it’s buda man. I would 100% do this. We have a window and need to take advantage of it. I understand the long term is important too, and this move would still be good.
The only issue with that trade is we would need to clear another $1.5m in cap space by tomorrow/Friday unless we got Arizona to eat some of it in the trade. We're at $15.5m and Baker's hit is currently $16.8m. From my understanding even in a "trade and sign" type deal you need to have that initial cap space available to make the trade.
(04-26-2023, 09:02 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]The only issue with that trade is we would need to clear another $1.5m in cap space by tomorrow/Friday unless we got Arizona to eat some of it in the trade. We're at $15.5m and Baker's hit is currently $16.8m. From my understanding even in a "trade and sign" type deal you need to have that initial cap space available to make the trade.
My guess would be that they trade for him, Arizona eats some of it and they give him a new contract which would push his money down the road.
(04-26-2023, 08:26 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (04-26-2023, 07:30 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/pff/status/165104996...915L-t18Xg
I would definitely do this.
Depends on the contract he wants.
Yes, I agree. We have to fit him into a salary cap that is about to explode with a huge franchise-quarterback contract.
(04-26-2023, 09:02 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]The only issue with that trade is we would need to clear another $1.5m in cap space by tomorrow/Friday unless we got Arizona to eat some of it in the trade. We're at $15.5m and Baker's hit is currently $16.8m. From my understanding even in a "trade and sign" type deal you need to have that initial cap space available to make the trade.
Don't we need roughly 7M to sign our draft class?
(04-26-2023, 10:09 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (04-26-2023, 09:02 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]The only issue with that trade is we would need to clear another $1.5m in cap space by tomorrow/Friday unless we got Arizona to eat some of it in the trade. We're at $15.5m and Baker's hit is currently $16.8m. From my understanding even in a "trade and sign" type deal you need to have that initial cap space available to make the trade.
Don't we need roughly 7M to sign our draft class?
I believe that only needs to be available when they sign, not the day of the draft
(04-21-2023, 01:28 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]I’m good with a TE as long as he can sack the QB.
We've had a lot of TEs in the past that got the QB sacked. Does that count?
Jags will shock peoople sometime after the draft. They will sign the free agent clowny to the team.
Looks like we have a draft day trade in the works for Budda Baker.
I also read that we have a mutual interest with Yannick Ngakoue? But he would likely want more money than we are willing to give, considering he'd just be a situational role player.
(04-26-2023, 01:50 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like we have a draft day trade in the works for Budda Baker.
I also read that we have a mutual interest with Yannick Ngakoue? But he would likely want more money than we are willing to give, considering he'd just be a situational role player.
Baker would be a good addition. I would almost be willing to forego a contract extension with Engram and opt for us to draft his replacement tomorrow night if it means having enough cap space to workout something Baker contract wise instead.
We can draft Isaiah Foskey with the 56th pick more than likely and he's virtually a clone of Yannick Ngakoue or go for Byron Young (TEN) to bolster the edge. We could probably wait an additional round and opt for Yaya Diaby instead.
Man, this off season is taking forever. Can it just be Labor day already?
(04-26-2023, 01:50 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like we have a draft day trade in the works for Budda Baker.
I also read that we have a mutual interest with Yannick Ngakoue? But he would likely want more money than we are willing to give, considering he'd just be a situational role player.
Do you have a recent link for this?
I've seen that they're interested but nothing brewing at the moment.
I would also welcome back Yan with open arms if he can sack the QB.
Would anyone consider going after Washington's Chase Young in a trade? Seems like the right opportunity for a buy low given they recently officially declined his 5th year option.
I know he has an injury history, but it just feels that most elite pass rushers have checkered injury history in today's game.