It's so funny to listen to these little [BLEEP] [BLEEP] liberals cry about hateful rhetoric when we've been listening to those little [BLEEP] [BLEEP] liberals whine about Trump for 8 years lol
Keep the tears flowing!! lololol
(08-25-2023, 11:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2023, 09:40 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]It does feel like a powder keg waiting to explode. There's already cases of covid climbing back up in California. Rutgers is telling people to mask up again. I think airlines are fixing to do the same. There's also another jab coming out for everybody to get in line and take. There's a good chance we're heading back to lockdowns, curfew's and work from home policies once again, during another election year. I am sure that's just a random act of nature though.
However, this is going to really set the stage for people still pissed off about the 2020 election. Especially if mail in ballots become a thing. The argument can already be made and spun in the mainstream. "Biden won because Trump is morally bankrupt after being arrested, look at his mugshot". [BLEEP] tell you man. Even with that narrative potentially. There's just no damn way in hell, that, you can convince me that Biden's supporters from 2020 are going to actually double dip on this dip [BLEEP] in 2024.
You cannot look me in my [BLEEP] eyes and tell me that as a Democrat. Because I'll [BLEEP] call you stupid to your face and not even blink or think twice about it. It's just reflex at this point. Everybody that I know that voted for him within my social circle, and the things that I have seen online? They're either saying they regret it, or, they have refused to swallow their pride and went into hiding and won't admit they made a colossal mistake.
Nominate Trump again, Biden gets my vote. Otherwise, the Republican nominee gets my vote. It's that simple. This indeed has been a shitshow but the shitshow of 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020 was worse.
I don't even believe you. There will always be another excuse.
Even then, 2017, 2018, 2019 were three great years to be living in America. You're insane. 2020 went haywire because of Covid and media manufactured racism, but sure, blame Trump. The value of the dollar has never been worse in my lifetime. That's intentional.
(08-27-2023, 09:31 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2023, 11:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Nominate Trump again, Biden gets my vote. Otherwise, the Republican nominee gets my vote. It's that simple. This indeed has been a shitshow but the shitshow of 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020 was worse.
I don't even believe you. There will always be another excuse.
Even then, 2017, 2018, 2019 were three great years to be living in America. You're insane. 2020 went haywire because of Covid and media manufactured racism, but sure, blame Trump. The value of the dollar has never been worse in my lifetime. That's intentional.
Materially speaking, 2017-2019 were decent years, yes, although it couldn't last. When you cut taxes without cutting spending there will be a hangover in the economy regardless of any pandemic or race riot.
But that's only true if you turned off the news. The narcissist in chief had a congenital need to dominate every news cycle and spiritually that was very damaging to anyone who paid attention to the news.
(08-27-2023, 09:54 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 09:31 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I don't even believe you. There will always be another excuse.
Even then, 2017, 2018, 2019 were three great years to be living in America. You're insane. 2020 went haywire because of Covid and media manufactured racism, but sure, blame Trump. The value of the dollar has never been worse in my lifetime. That's intentional.
Materially speaking, 2017-2019 were decent years, yes, although it couldn't last. When you cut taxes without cutting spending there will be a hangover in the economy regardless of any pandemic or race riot.
But that's only true if you turned off the news. The narcissist in chief had a congenital need to dominate every news cycle and spiritually that was very damaging to anyone who paid attention to the news.
Lol, you mean the media and left (TIRM) were butt hurt over losing to Trump and spent the last 7 years going everything in their power to destroy him. The Trump Years were an American Renaissance and Golden Age, especially in light of the Vegetable Error you morons have subjected us to.
(08-27-2023, 09:59 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 09:54 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Materially speaking, 2017-2019 were decent years, yes, although it couldn't last. When you cut taxes without cutting spending there will be a hangover in the economy regardless of any pandemic or race riot.
But that's only true if you turned off the news. The narcissist in chief had a congenital need to dominate every news cycle and spiritually that was very damaging to anyone who paid attention to the news.
Lol, you mean the media and left (TIRM) were butt hurt over losing to Trump and spent the last 7 years going everything in their power to destroy him. The Trump Years were an American Renaissance and Golden Age, especially in light of the Vegetable Error you morons have subjected us to.
You know, rhetoric aside I can understand the debate over the positive and negatives of Trump's policies and record in office but the hero worship is over the top. I guess Obama had a little bit of that in his first term but I think it had largely faded by the second. Trump's adoration still seems to be going strong in spite of everything that's happened since he was elected. Isn't that indicative of a cult of personality?
(08-27-2023, 12:23 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 09:59 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, you mean the media and left (TIRM) were butt hurt over losing to Trump and spent the last 7 years going everything in their power to destroy him. The Trump Years were an American Renaissance and Golden Age, especially in light of the Vegetable Error you morons have subjected us to.
You know, rhetoric aside I can understand the debate over the positive and negatives of Trump's policies and record in office but the hero worship is over the top. I guess Obama had a little bit of that in his first term but I think it had largely faded by the second. Trump's adoration still seems to be going strong in spite of everything that's happened since he was elected. Isn't that indicative of a cult of personality?
Trump personifies what the right believes is a forceful pushback against the institutional rot in DC and the MSM. I guess you could call it a cult of personality because he's the only person, and a complete outsider, who said the things that career politicians won't. Love him or hate him, he's very unique in the history of the American political landscape.
(08-27-2023, 12:32 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 12:23 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]You know, rhetoric aside I can understand the debate over the positive and negatives of Trump's policies and record in office but the hero worship is over the top. I guess Obama had a little bit of that in his first term but I think it had largely faded by the second. Trump's adoration still seems to be going strong in spite of everything that's happened since he was elected. Isn't that indicative of a cult of personality?
Trump personifies what the right believes is a forceful pushback against the institutional rot in DC and the MSM. I guess you could call it a cult of personality because he's the only person, and a complete outsider, who said the things that career politicians won't. Love him or hate him, he's very unique in the history of the American political landscape.
[BLEEP].
Many on the right are angry. Trump is angry. It doesn't go deeper than that. We know this because whenever we get Trump supporters together and ask what he's going to do to fix the things they're angry about, they sharply disagree with each other. We know this because Trump never articulated much of an agenda beyond the bare bones of what Republicans had tried to pass for years, and he got most of what he wanted, but his supporters are still angry and still feeling like they didn't get what they wanted.
And yes when people hold him up as this instrument of righteous divine judgement and unifyer of that which can't be unified, yes that is a cult of personality.
(08-27-2023, 01:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 01:32 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ][BLEEP].
Many on the right are angry. Trump is angry. It doesn't go deeper than that. We know this because whenever we get Trump supporters together and ask what he's going to do to fix the things they're angry about, they sharply disagree with each other. We know this because Trump never articulated much of an agenda beyond the bare bones of what Republicans had tried to pass for years, and he got most of what he wanted, but his supporters are still angry and still feeling like they didn't get what they wanted.
And yes when people hold him up as this instrument of righteous divine judgement and unifyer of that which can't be unified, yes that is a cult of personality.
What do they want?
Different things. Each of them want different things. And some of them just want to feel like the people they don't like are being punished.
(08-27-2023, 02:16 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 01:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]What do they want?
Different things. Each of them want different things. And some of them just want to feel like the people they don't like are being punished.
I don't want you punished, I just want your ilk out of power. Of course for them that is the ultimate punishment, so I do understand why you feel that way.
(08-27-2023, 02:16 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 01:45 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]What do they want?
Different things. Each of them want different things. And some of them just want to feel like the people they don't like are being punished.
Does the left want different things too and get angry about it and want people punished they don't like? I'm assuming they do and that's why they were burning cities and murdering people a couple of years ago. No?
(08-27-2023, 02:28 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 02:16 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Different things. Each of them want different things. And some of them just want to feel like the people they don't like are being punished.
Does the left want different things too and get angry about it and want people punished they don't like? I'm assuming they do and that's why they were burning cities and murdering people a couple of years ago. No?
Sure, but the left so far hasn't been exploited this way by a morally vacuous opportunistic narcissist. So the elites on the left have an easier time channeling their voters frustration into a coherent set of action items.
(08-27-2023, 04:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 02:28 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Does the left want different things too and get angry about it and want people punished they don't like? I'm assuming they do and that's why they were burning cities and murdering people a couple of years ago. No?
Sure, but the left so far hasn't been exploited this way by a morally vacuous opportunistic narcissist. So the elites on the left have an easier time channeling their voters frustration into a coherent set of action items.
So the "so-called", correct answer to his question is based on your opinion lololol
(08-27-2023, 05:06 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 04:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, but the left so far hasn't been exploited this way by a morally vacuous opportunistic narcissist. So the elites on the left have an easier time channeling their voters frustration into a coherent set of action items.
So the "so-called", correct answer to his question is based on your opinion lololol
It's opinions all the way down amigo.
In your system of thought as well.
(08-27-2023, 04:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 02:28 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Does the left want different things too and get angry about it and want people punished they don't like? I'm assuming they do and that's why they were burning cities and murdering people a couple of years ago. No?
Sure, but the left so far hasn't been exploited this way by a morally vacuous opportunistic narcissist. So the elites on the left have an easier time channeling their voters frustration into a coherent set of action items.
Hillary Clinton just shot you a smile.
(08-27-2023, 07:43 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 04:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, but the left so far hasn't been exploited this way by a morally vacuous opportunistic narcissist. So the elites on the left have an easier time channeling their voters frustration into a coherent set of action items.
Hillary Clinton just shot you a smile.
Careful, she's known for shooting much more dangerous things than that.
(08-27-2023, 07:43 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 04:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, but the left so far hasn't been exploited this way by a morally vacuous opportunistic narcissist. So the elites on the left have an easier time channeling their voters frustration into a coherent set of action items.
Hillary Clinton just shot you a smile.
Hillary is a deeply flawed figure and would have been a bad President.
But when Hillary lost she moved on. She didn't sign up for a revenge contest. She understood after November 2016 that the party was bigger than her.
(08-27-2023, 08:08 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 07:43 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Hillary Clinton just shot you a smile.
Careful, she's known for shooting much more dangerous things than that.
Neither Trump nor Hillary ever shot anyone. Stop falling for conspiracy theories.
(08-27-2023, 08:08 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 07:43 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Hillary Clinton just shot you a smile.
Careful, she's known for shooting much more dangerous things than that.
Webb Hubbell's gun?
(08-27-2023, 08:17 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 07:43 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Hillary Clinton just shot you a smile.
Hillary is a deeply flawed figure and would have been a bad President.
But when Hillary lost she moved on. She didn't sign up for a revenge contest. She understood after November 2016 that the party was bigger than her.
(08-27-2023, 08:08 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Careful, she's known for shooting much more dangerous things than that.
Neither Trump nor Hillary ever shot anyone. Stop falling for conspiracy theories.
Yeah, that was it. (wink)
(08-27-2023, 04:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 02:28 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Does the left want different things too and get angry about it and want people punished they don't like? I'm assuming they do and that's why they were burning cities and murdering people a couple of years ago. No?
Sure, but the left so far hasn't been exploited this way by a morally vacuous opportunistic narcissist. So the elites on the left have an easier time channeling their voters frustration into a coherent set of action items.
The elites on the left intentionally manufacture outrage among their constituents. Not just in the form of media manipulation, but literal boots on the ground. It's called community organizing. It's highly coordinated, and the sole purpose is stirring up dissent in disenfranchised communities.
(08-28-2023, 10:30 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (08-27-2023, 04:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, but the left so far hasn't been exploited this way by a morally vacuous opportunistic narcissist. So the elites on the left have an easier time channeling their voters frustration into a coherent set of action items.
The elites on the left intentionally manufacture outrage among their constituents. Not just in the form of media manipulation, but literal boots on the ground. It's called community organizing. It's highly coordinated, and the sole purpose is stirring up dissent in disenfranchised communities.
1) presidential candidates on the left have not, so far, dabbled in manufactured outrage the way Trump has.
2) there shouldn't be any disenfranchised communities in the US.