(11-06-2023, 09:52 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 06:04 AM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]Glad game week is back.. not excited about playing SF off their bye week and a 3 game losing skid. They will come in regrouped, but so will we. Would be nice to see a competitive NFC, but hope the Niners don't get back on track this week. Purdy has looked pretty mediocre lately and with the way our defense has been playing we will have a shot at least, it will be on the offense to take over the game. Should nice seeing a healthy looking injury report for a change. Hope Zay is back.
I think Purdy is suffering from a few things. First, he's lacking Deebo the last few weeks, getting him back makes that team better. Two, teams are getting the tape and putting it to use. He was a last day pick for a reason and teams are finding ways to exploit that. 3, concussions are no joke and he's probably playing through some fog still. Last, I think that elbow is still a problem. UCL can be fixed, but the timeline was accelerated and it's got to have a bit of a psychological effect as well.
If the QB is stuggling then we can count on Kyle Shannahan to find ways around it, the defense needs to have a strong game if we're going to win. The flip side is that the offensive line has to keep Trevor upright like they did in Pittsburgh. San Fran know they have to keep it close and we can expect the dogs to be out for our guy.
Another major point here is that teams are actually capitalizing on his high turnover worthy plays.
"Now we're eight games into the season, and Purdy ranks 30th in turnover-worthy-play percentage, which means he's putting the ball in harm's way more than just about any other starter. Which is not good. But he always has done this -- defenses simply weren't capitalizing until now. That means he's not in a slump. The law of averages is catching up to him and so are defenses."
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/the-mo...urdys-play
(11-04-2023, 12:46 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I'm so happy the jags are winning, but holy cow I hate having a thursday game into no football on sunday, then 1 game followed by the bye week. I know it's good for the team, but its so annoying lol.
the firstest world problem ever!
It was kinda nice having this Sunday off. Spent the afternoon with my daughter cleaning out old books, giving her some wins along the way to make the pain of saying goodbye to some old friends worth it. Bonus, doing so was something wifey didn't have to do, so I made two ladies happy with one task.
And we finished in time to catch the crazy ends to the Minny and TB games, so I really didn't feel like I missed out on anything!
(11-05-2023, 06:45 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-04-2023, 09:55 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]bold
Dude is different
So an aging RB that has injury history is worthy of a 2nd, 3rd, 4th in 2023. And another 4th in 2024. 49ers basically just threw away their entire 2023 draft for a running back...
But yeah, you're right. Dude is different....
But drafting ETN in the late 1st round was a shanda!!! A shanda, larry!!!
I mean, the cognitive dissonance some folks must feel every day could activate a Star Gate.
CMC was a known commodity. But IIRC they not only traded for him, but then also had to sign him to a huge deal. That's something you do if you are a team built on a strong defense that already has most of the other pieces in place.
Spoiler: that was exactly who SF was (and is).
I get that you're riffing and resurrecting old arguments from other threads, but the other lesson is that when we took Etienne, we weren't in SF's shoes. Etienne is cheaper, but had he turned out to be another TJ Yeldon it would have been crippling for our future, plain and simple .Thank the stars that he wasn't.
On topic, my plan is to keep doing what we do - bendy D that keeps everything in front of them and forces Purdy into mistakes. CMC will get his touches, we just have to prevent explosive plays. On offense, capitalize on turnovers when they come. Short plays and sustained drives early may not take the game out of SFO's reach right away, but the defense should wither in the second half. If it comes down to gutting out wins, I trust Trevor's hand a whole lot more than I think SFO trusts Purdy's.
I don't think we need to get fancy, bold, nuanced, or anything other than what we've been doing already this year. Play smart, take what's given and we'll be fine. Maybe we let them hang within a FG so Moody can boot one into the pools.
(11-06-2023, 10:32 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (11-05-2023, 06:45 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]So an aging RB that has injury history is worthy of a 2nd, 3rd, 4th in 2023. And another 4th in 2024. 49ers basically just threw away their entire 2023 draft for a running back...
But yeah, you're right. Dude is different....
But drafting ETN in the late 1st round was a shanda!!! A shanda, larry!!!
I mean, the cognitive dissonance some folks must feel every day could activate a Star Gate.
CMC was a known commodity.
Exactly. CMC was a known commodity.
He was a high end talent that has multiple seasons where he couldn't make it through an entire season and did not have the ability to carry an offense to the playoffs... That's the commodity CMC was. CMC was traded to SF in the middle of his 6th season.... LOL. The 6th season. SF didn't make it to the SB last year. SF is on a 3 game slide now... But CMC is "different", as in he's super special?? LOL. He's worthy of giving up an entire draft class??? LOL
I read the rest of your reply. You conceded the truth with your first sentence, so I focus on that.. Of course there are gambles and there are hopes that a player will develop or become better than their prior seasons have shown. Of course there is a level of uncertainty. But that was my point, that was not the point of others when they criticize the ETN draft selection. Instead, to glorify CMC as a baller and a great pick, and question ETN as proof Baalke isn't a good GM.
To say that CMC was so special that you should waste an entire draft for him, and then complain about taking a RB in the late 1st round after drafting a franchise QB as a terrible move is the epitome of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
Comparing CMC's move to the 49ers and the ETN late 1st round pick is... for lack of a better term, asinine. ETN was a good pick. CMC was a terrible trade. But some here think otherwise. And I just can't sit back and watch those guys think they know so much about football, when they can't even recognize how garbage the CMC v. ETN comparison is.
But that's just my opinion.
(11-06-2023, 03:07 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 10:32 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]CMC was a known commodity.
Exactly. CMC was a known commodity.
He was a high end talent that has multiple seasons where he couldn't make it through an entire season and did not have the ability to carry an offense to the playoffs... That's the commodity CMC was. CMC was traded to SF in the middle of his 6th season.... LOL. The 6th season. SF didn't make it to the SB last year. SF is on a 3 game slide now... But CMC is "different", as in he's super special?? LOL. He's worthy of giving up an entire draft class??? LOL
I read the rest of your reply. You conceded the truth with your first sentence, so I focus on that.. Of course there are gambles and there are hopes that a player will develop or become better than their prior seasons have shown. Of course there is a level of uncertainty. But that was my point, that was not the point of others when they criticize the ETN draft selection. Instead, to glorify CMC as a baller and a great pick, and question ETN as proof Baalke isn't a good GM.
To say that CMC was so special that you should waste an entire draft for him, and then complain about taking a RB in the late 1st round after drafting a franchise QB as a terrible move is the epitome of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
Comparing CMC's move to the 49ers and the ETN late 1st round pick is... for lack of a better term, asinine. ETN was a good pick. CMC was a terrible trade. But some here think otherwise. And I just can't sit back and watch those guys think they know so much about football, when they can't even recognize how garbage the CMC v. ETN comparison is.
But that's just my opinion.
Then why the [BLEEP] do you keep doing it???
LOL
So stupid
Apples and Oranges, dude. Stop.
You're comparing the roster moves of a team trying to get the final pieces for a championship run to another team in YEAR ONE of a total rebuild. You look like a fool trying to compare these things.
And you're trying to diminish a move for a player who had 1900 yards and 13 TDs last year on the way to a NFC championship game?? What?? Stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
(11-06-2023, 03:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 03:07 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly. CMC was a known commodity.
He was a high end talent that has multiple seasons where he couldn't make it through an entire season and did not have the ability to carry an offense to the playoffs... That's the commodity CMC was. CMC was traded to SF in the middle of his 6th season.... LOL. The 6th season. SF didn't make it to the SB last year. SF is on a 3 game slide now... But CMC is "different", as in he's super special?? LOL. He's worthy of giving up an entire draft class??? LOL
I read the rest of your reply. You conceded the truth with your first sentence, so I focus on that.. Of course there are gambles and there are hopes that a player will develop or become better than their prior seasons have shown. Of course there is a level of uncertainty. But that was my point, that was not the point of others when they criticize the ETN draft selection. Instead, to glorify CMC as a baller and a great pick, and question ETN as proof Baalke isn't a good GM.
To say that CMC was so special that you should waste an entire draft for him, and then complain about taking a RB in the late 1st round after drafting a franchise QB as a terrible move is the epitome of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
Comparing CMC's move to the 49ers and the ETN late 1st round pick is... for lack of a better term, asinine. ETN was a good pick. CMC was a terrible trade. But some here think otherwise. And I just can't sit back and watch those guys think they know so much about football, when they can't even recognize how garbage the CMC v. ETN comparison is.
But that's just my opinion.
Then why the [BLEEP] do you keep doing it???
LOL
So stupid
Apples and Oranges, dude. Stop.
You're comparing the roster moves of a team trying to get the final pieces for a championship run to another team in YEAR ONE of a total rebuild. You look like a fool trying to compare these things.
And you're trying to diminish a move for a player who had 1900 yards and 13 TDs last year on the way to a NFC championship game?? What?? Stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Bruh, you just stated how special CMC was. You implied that CMC is "different" and therefore getting him helps SF, correct?
But you hate the ETN pick for whatever reason you hate it for. You and flsprtsgod say that there were better picks that we could have gotten.
But it's good for SF to waste an entire draft on a RB that hasn't helped them, if I remember correctly, the 49ers didn't make it to the SB.... But it was bad for the Jaguars to draft a RB that is clearly helping us.
Again. I prefer pineapples and avocados.
(11-06-2023, 03:46 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 03:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Then why the [BLEEP] do you keep doing it???
LOL
So stupid
Apples and Oranges, dude. Stop.
You're comparing the roster moves of a team trying to get the final pieces for a championship run to another team in YEAR ONE of a total rebuild. You look like a fool trying to compare these things.
And you're trying to diminish a move for a player who had 1900 yards and 13 TDs last year on the way to a NFC championship game?? What?? Stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Bruh, you just stated how special CMC was. You implied that CMC is "different" and therefore getting him helps SF, correct?
But you hate the ETN pick for whatever reason you hate it for. You and flsprtsgod say that there were better picks that we could have gotten.
But it's good for SF to waste an entire draft on a RB that hasn't helped them. But it was bad for the Jaguars to draft a RB that is clearly helping us.
Again. I prefer pineapples and avocados.
[BLEEP]
I wish you could read so I wouldn't have to repeat myself
I NEVER SAID A DAMN WORD ABOUT SF'S TRADE FOR CMC YOU [BLEEP] MORON
STOP IMPLYING THAT I DID!! I've expressed no opinion about it but your dumb [BLEEP] keeps attributing one to me.
Their trade and the Jags draft selection couldn't be more different.
Please try to get back to the topic of the thread which is the upcoming game.
Maybe you can predict for us how Press Taylor will screw it all up ? Unless you're done dying on that hill and prefer just putting words in my mouth now.
(11-06-2023, 03:44 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/ESPNdirocco/status/1...30651?s=20
Seeing talk of Zay going on IR now.
That really sucks. He makes our pass game very potent by addition.
(11-06-2023, 03:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 03:46 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Bruh, you just stated how special CMC was. You implied that CMC is "different" and therefore getting him helps SF, correct?
But you hate the ETN pick for whatever reason you hate it for. You and flsprtsgod say that there were better picks that we could have gotten.
But it's good for SF to waste an entire draft on a RB that hasn't helped them. But it was bad for the Jaguars to draft a RB that is clearly helping us.
Again. I prefer pineapples and avocados.
[BLEEP]
I wish you could read so I wouldn't have to repeat myself
I NEVER SAID A DAMN WORD ABOUT SF'S TRADE FOR CMC YOU [BLEEP] MORON
STOP IMPLYING THAT I DID!! I've expressed no opinion about it but your dumb [BLEEP] keeps attributing one to me.
Their trade and the Jags draft selection couldn't be more different.
Please try to get back to the topic of the thread which is the upcoming game.
Maybe you can predict for us how Press Taylor will screw it all up?
Now you're getting combative Just calm down.
You have clearly stated that CMC is good. I don't have to quote it back to you, do I? You basically said that CMC is a RB that is amazing, "he's different". Well, I just pointed out what the 49ers gave up to get CMC.
You and flsprtgod have been hyper critical of picking ETN in the late 1st round.
I don't think it's out of bounds to point out that ETN is by far the better pick versus your sloppy love of CMC considering the fact that the 49ers gave up a 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, and two 4ths... ETN and CMC are pretty much statistically similar. But at least we only used a late 1st round pick, whereas SF used practically an entire draft class to get a 6 year RB!!!
I'm not implying anything. I'm just pointing out how illogical your logic is.
But again, it's your opinion. I just respectfully disagree.
Regarding the upcoming game... It's a game that pits the 49ers versus the Jaguars. Personnel decisions should be in bounds when discussing the upcoming game on Sunday. I don't think I'm doing anything that is "out of bounds" considering the talking point of this game within this thread.
Though I do feel you are insulting and yelling at me, which I don't appreciate and find worthy of review.
(11-06-2023, 03:07 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 10:32 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]CMC was a known commodity.
Exactly. CMC was a known commodity.
He was a high end talent that has multiple seasons where he couldn't make it through an entire season and did not have the ability to carry an offense to the playoffs... That's the commodity CMC was. CMC was traded to SF in the middle of his 6th season.... LOL. The 6th season. SF didn't make it to the SB last year. SF is on a 3 game slide now... But CMC is "different", as in he's super special?? LOL. He's worthy of giving up an entire draft class??? LOL
I read the rest of your reply. You conceded the truth with your first sentence, so I focus on that.. Of course there are gambles and there are hopes that a player will develop or become better than their prior seasons have shown. Of course there is a level of uncertainty. But that was my point, that was not the point of others when they criticize the ETN draft selection. Instead, to glorify CMC as a baller and a great pick, and question ETN as proof Baalke isn't a good GM.
To say that CMC was so special that you should waste an entire draft for him, and then complain about taking a RB in the late 1st round after drafting a franchise QB as a terrible move is the epitome of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
Comparing CMC's move to the 49ers and the ETN late 1st round pick is... for lack of a better term, asinine. ETN was a good pick. CMC was a terrible trade. But some here think otherwise. And I just can't sit back and watch those guys think they know so much about football, when they can't even recognize how garbage the CMC v. ETN comparison is.
But that's just my opinion.
I don't think you can find anyone saying that. Saying CMC is tough to stop doesn't mean he would trade those picks for him. CMC was tough to stop the last time we played him in 2019 with the Panthers too because he's a great player. In 2019 CMC had 2,392 yards from scrimmage and 19 totals TDs. I thought he should've won the MVP, but Lamar had a year too and most importantly, it likely hurt him that the Panthers won five games on the MVP caliber stats of that season. To your point, spending those picks and adding him to the SF team took a 10 win NFCC loser and made them a 13 win NFCC loser on that freak in game decimation of the 9ers QB against Philly. Which in turn goes to my overarching point that a great running back doesn't make bad teams good but does help good teams become great. A final piece, not a foundation piece.
(11-06-2023, 03:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 03:46 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Bruh, you just stated how special CMC was. You implied that CMC is "different" and therefore getting him helps SF, correct?
But you hate the ETN pick for whatever reason you hate it for. You and flsprtsgod say that there were better picks that we could have gotten.
But it's good for SF to waste an entire draft on a RB that hasn't helped them. But it was bad for the Jaguars to draft a RB that is clearly helping us.
Again. I prefer pineapples and avocados.
[BLEEP]
I wish you could read so I wouldn't have to repeat myself
I NEVER SAID A DAMN WORD ABOUT SF'S TRADE FOR CMC YOU [BLEEP] MORON
STOP IMPLYING THAT I DID!! I've expressed no opinion about it but your dumb [BLEEP] keeps attributing one to me.
Their trade and the Jags draft selection couldn't be more different.
Please try to get back to the topic of the thread which is the upcoming game.
Maybe you can predict for us how Press Taylor will screw it all up ? Unless you're done dying on that hill and prefer just putting words in my mouth now.
(11-06-2023, 03:44 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/ESPNdirocco/status/1...30651?s=20
Seeing talk of Zay going on IR now.
That really sucks. He makes our pass game very potent by addition.
Interesting bc he finally practiced a bit today I'm seeing. Maybe it went poorly?
I'm very confused with how the team has handled the Zay Jones injury. Why wasn't he placed on IR sooner?
(11-06-2023, 04:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 03:07 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly. CMC was a known commodity.
He was a high end talent that has multiple seasons where he couldn't make it through an entire season and did not have the ability to carry an offense to the playoffs... That's the commodity CMC was. CMC was traded to SF in the middle of his 6th season.... LOL. The 6th season. SF didn't make it to the SB last year. SF is on a 3 game slide now... But CMC is "different", as in he's super special?? LOL. He's worthy of giving up an entire draft class??? LOL
I read the rest of your reply. You conceded the truth with your first sentence, so I focus on that.. Of course there are gambles and there are hopes that a player will develop or become better than their prior seasons have shown. Of course there is a level of uncertainty. But that was my point, that was not the point of others when they criticize the ETN draft selection. Instead, to glorify CMC as a baller and a great pick, and question ETN as proof Baalke isn't a good GM.
To say that CMC was so special that you should waste an entire draft for him, and then complain about taking a RB in the late 1st round after drafting a franchise QB as a terrible move is the epitome of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
Comparing CMC's move to the 49ers and the ETN late 1st round pick is... for lack of a better term, asinine. ETN was a good pick. CMC was a terrible trade. But some here think otherwise. And I just can't sit back and watch those guys think they know so much about football, when they can't even recognize how garbage the CMC v. ETN comparison is.
But that's just my opinion.
I don't think you can find anyone saying that. Saying CMC is tough to stop doesn't mean he would trade those picks for him. CMC was tough to stop the last time we played him in 2019 with the Panthers too because he's a great player. In 2019 CMC had 2,392 yards from scrimmage and 19 totals TDs. I thought he should've won the MVP, but Lamar had a year too and most importantly, it likely hurt him that the Panthers won five games on the MVP caliber stats of that season. To your point, spending those picks and adding him to the SF team took a 10 win NFCC loser and made them a 13 win NFCC loser on that freak in game decimation of the 9ers QB against Philly. Which in turn goes to my overarching point that a great running back doesn't make bad teams good but does help good teams become great. A final piece, not a foundation piece.
Well, I was gonna argue with you from your initial point, but you're end point is correct.
I never said that ETN was the greatest pick. But having a really good RB is very helpful.
All I know is that I love this team as it's currently constructed. Lawrence is a very good QB. Is he as great as Burrow or Mahommes? ehhhh, close enough. But we have ETN who's really good. And you know who makes Burrow even better, that damn Joe Mixon. On top of that, we have Kirk, Engram, Ridley, and (hopefully Zay Jones) at WR.
The only weakness we have, which is huge, is our Center and 1 Guard. Harrison and Robinson at tackles are good. But the middle of our O-Line is suspect.
I just look at all the holes we had from 2021 when we drafted Lawrence to where we are 2 years later? I mean, damn. We are right where I would love to be for the next 15 years. We have a legit QB, a legit HC, a decent GM (though I think he's legit), and a legit DC.
I mean, how much more can you ask for? This is the team I've been wishing for since 2007, but we actually have Lawrence instead of Garrard. We're on the come up. Why not enjoy it? Why hate on Baalke when he's clearly putting great players in the best spots for the coaches to do their thing?
(11-06-2023, 04:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I'm very confused with how the team has handled the Zay Jones injury. Why wasn't he placed on IR sooner?
Probably still hoping to have him back. Plenty of football left. I think they said he worked out today with the team so he should be back at some point.
I just hope they consider giving Cooks more meaningful snaps or opportunities out there if Zay can't go. We need somebody that can get downfield and make some plays.
Cooks has the size and speed to do that.
(11-06-2023, 04:01 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 03:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ][BLEEP]
I wish you could read so I wouldn't have to repeat myself
I NEVER SAID A DAMN WORD ABOUT SF'S TRADE FOR CMC YOU [BLEEP] MORON
STOP IMPLYING THAT I DID!! I've expressed no opinion about it but your dumb [BLEEP] keeps attributing one to me.
Their trade and the Jags draft selection couldn't be more different.
Please try to get back to the topic of the thread which is the upcoming game.
Maybe you can predict for us how Press Taylor will screw it all up?
Now you're getting combative Just calm down.
You have clearly stated that CMC is good. I don't have to quote it back to you, do I? You basically said that CMC is a RB that is amazing, "he's different". Well, I just pointed out what the 49ers gave up to get CMC.
You and flsprtgod have been hyper critical of picking ETN in the late 1st round.
I don't think it's out of bounds to point out that ETN is by far the better pick versus your sloppy love of CMC considering the fact that the 49ers gave up a 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, and two 4ths... ETN and CMC are pretty much statistically similar. But at least we only used a late 1st round pick, whereas SF used practically an entire draft class to get a 6 year RB!!!
I'm not implying anything. I'm just pointing out how illogical your logic is.
But again, it's your opinion. I just respectfully disagree.
Regarding the upcoming game... It's a game that pits the 49ers versus the Jaguars. Personnel decisions should be in bounds when discussing the upcoming game on Sunday. I don't think I'm doing anything that is "out of bounds" considering the talking point of this game within this thread.
Though I do feel you are insulting and yelling at me, which I don't appreciate and find worthy of review.
Damn man, get it right. The trade was a 2, 3, and 4 in 23 and a 4 in 24. No 1's were involved. Again, the Jags taking an RB with a 1 coming off a 1-15 season is a mile different from the 49ers trading some picks coming of an NFCC loss. That you can't reconize nuance doesn't refute the logic of our position, it just shows that you still don't understand what's being said. And no, I wouldn't have made that trade.
(11-06-2023, 04:12 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 04:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I'm very confused with how the team has handled the Zay Jones injury. Why wasn't he placed on IR sooner?
Probably still hoping to have him back. Plenty of football left. I think they said he worked out today with the team so he should be back at some point.
I just hope they consider giving Cooks more meaningful snaps or opportunities out there if Zay can't go. We need somebody that can get downfield and make some plays.
Cooks has the size and speed to do that.
There are WRs that can take Zay Jone's position. But there is only 1 Zay Jones. The dude always comes up big in the end zone. I just want everyone to remember how great that Zay is. He's great. We are lucky to have him. I hope to the Football Gods that he comes back next year. The dude is just clutch. He always has been, and he's simpatico with Trevor.
(11-06-2023, 04:13 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 04:01 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Now you're getting combative Just calm down.
You have clearly stated that CMC is good. I don't have to quote it back to you, do I? You basically said that CMC is a RB that is amazing, "he's different". Well, I just pointed out what the 49ers gave up to get CMC.
You and flsprtgod have been hyper critical of picking ETN in the late 1st round.
I don't think it's out of bounds to point out that ETN is by far the better pick versus your sloppy love of CMC considering the fact that the 49ers gave up a 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, and two 4ths... ETN and CMC are pretty much statistically similar. But at least we only used a late 1st round pick, whereas SF used practically an entire draft class to get a 6 year RB!!!
I'm not implying anything. I'm just pointing out how illogical your logic is.
But again, it's your opinion. I just respectfully disagree.
Regarding the upcoming game... It's a game that pits the 49ers versus the Jaguars. Personnel decisions should be in bounds when discussing the upcoming game on Sunday. I don't think I'm doing anything that is "out of bounds" considering the talking point of this game within this thread.
Though I do feel you are insulting and yelling at me, which I don't appreciate and find worthy of review.
Damn man, get it right. The trade was a 2, 3, and 4 in 23 and a 4 in 24. No 1's were involved. Again, the Jags taking an RB with a 1 coming off a 1-15 season is a mile different from the 49ers trading some picks coming of an NFCC loss. That you can't reconize nuance doesn't refute the logic of our position, it just shows that you still don't understand what's being said. And no, I wouldn't have made that trade.
apologies. You're right. They didn't give up their 1st. Just the rest of their draft... Sorry for the confusion.
(11-06-2023, 04:11 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 04:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think you can find anyone saying that. Saying CMC is tough to stop doesn't mean he would trade those picks for him. CMC was tough to stop the last time we played him in 2019 with the Panthers too because he's a great player. In 2019 CMC had 2,392 yards from scrimmage and 19 totals TDs. I thought he should've won the MVP, but Lamar had a year too and most importantly, it likely hurt him that the Panthers won five games on the MVP caliber stats of that season. To your point, spending those picks and adding him to the SF team took a 10 win NFCC loser and made them a 13 win NFCC loser on that freak in game decimation of the 9ers QB against Philly. Which in turn goes to my overarching point that a great running back doesn't make bad teams good but does help good teams become great. A final piece, not a foundation piece.
Well, I was gonna argue with you from your initial point, but you're end point is correct.
I never said that ETN was the greatest pick. But having a really good RB is very helpful.
All I know is that I love this team as it's currently constructed. Lawrence is a very good QB. Is he as great as Burrow or Mahommes? ehhhh, close enough. But we have ETN who's really good. And you know who makes Burrow even better, that damn Joe Mixon. On top of that, we have Kirk, Engram, Ridley, and (hopefully Zay Jones) at WR.
The only weakness we have, which is huge, is our Center and 1 Guard. Harrison and Robinson at tackles are good. But the middle of our O-Line is suspect.
I just look at all the holes we had from 2021 when we drafted Lawrence to where we are 2 years later? I mean, damn. We are right where I would love to be for the next 15 years. We have a legit QB, a legit HC, a decent GM (though I think he's legit), and a legit DC.
I mean, how much more can you ask for? This is the team I've been wishing for since 2007, but we actually have Lawrence instead of Garrard. We're on the come up. Why not enjoy it? Why hate on Baalke when he's clearly putting great players in the best spots for the coaches to do their thing?
I love what's going on with this team, as a franchise the Jaguars were due for some good fortune. Who says you can't look with a critical eye while enjoying it? That's what we're here for, to talk about the team. And you're right, that damn Joe "I was a second round draft pick" Mixon is really helpful to Joe Burrow. It's a shame Burrow's career is going to be cut short because they can't figure out how to protect him. I have similar concerns about our QB but I'm hopeful they'll right that ship this season and next with better play and some new blood.
(11-06-2023, 04:01 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 03:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ][BLEEP]
I wish you could read so I wouldn't have to repeat myself
I NEVER SAID A DAMN WORD ABOUT SF'S TRADE FOR CMC YOU [BLEEP] MORON
STOP IMPLYING THAT I DID!! I've expressed no opinion about it but your dumb [BLEEP] keeps attributing one to me.
Their trade and the Jags draft selection couldn't be more different.
Please try to get back to the topic of the thread which is the upcoming game.
Maybe you can predict for us how Press Taylor will screw it all up?
Now you're getting combative Just calm down.
You have clearly stated that CMC is good. I don't have to quote it back to you, do I? You basically said that CMC is a RB that is amazing, "he's different". Well, I just pointed out what the 49ers gave up to get CMC.
You and flsprtgod have been hyper critical of picking ETN in the late 1st round.
I don't think it's out of bounds to point out that ETN is by far the better pick versus your sloppy love of CMC considering the fact that the 49ers gave up a 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, and two 4ths... ETN and CMC are pretty much statistically similar. But at least we only used a late 1st round pick, whereas SF used practically an entire draft class to get a 6 year RB!!!
I'm not implying anything. I'm just pointing out how illogical your logic is.
But again, it's your opinion. I just respectfully disagree.
Regarding the upcoming game... It's a game that pits the 49ers versus the Jaguars. Personnel decisions should be in bounds when discussing the upcoming game on Sunday. I don't think I'm doing anything that is "out of bounds" considering the talking point of this game within this thread.
Though I do feel you are insulting and yelling at me, which I don't appreciate and find worthy of review.
You keep putting words in
my mouth because you suck so bad at trying to make a case for your crappy point
And then tell me to calm down
LOL
Please quote my post that states an opinion on SF trading for CMC.
Find one.
I can find three times where you falsely attributed one to me.
Yet I never stated one.
You still don't even
understand my argument about the ETN pick, much less have any grasp on comparing it to something. Especially something from a different universe like a championship team trading for a very talented back.
You don't "disagree" with me - you simply don't have a [BLEEP] clue what you're talking about.
Keep misquoting me and keep putting words in my mouth and I'll keep insulting you.
See if you can get your head around that dynamic.
By all means - go ahead and file a complaint. But stop attributing thoughts and opinions to me that I've never stated if you don't want the smoke. That shouldn't be difficult.
(11-06-2023, 04:12 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2023, 04:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I'm very confused with how the team has handled the Zay Jones injury. Why wasn't he placed on IR sooner?
Probably still hoping to have him back. Plenty of football left. I think they said he worked out today with the team so he should be back at some point.
I just hope they consider giving Cooks more meaningful snaps or opportunities out there if Zay can't go. We need somebody that can get downfield and make some plays.
Cooks has the size and speed to do that.
What happened to Parker Washington? Still injured?