Quote:Listen I only asked about the links you were talking about out of curiosity. Not because I disagree with you.
So do you disagree with the article that looks at how Gabby Douglas was treated for " Not putting her hand over heart", versus Lochte?
Not sure how any of those articles would upset you. Do you know any history about Ryan Lochte? Did you know his Father was fired from a job and the story behind it?
Anyway, Ryan Lochte is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Ryan does dumb things and has always been like this. Personally I think making Ryan Lochte a political statement is beyond ignorant and clearly has no knowledge of him or his personality. I am hoping to see him down in Daytona in a few weeks though.
I disagree with the part about the where privilege part. See: thread title and OP.
Athletes, both black and white, get away with doing stupid [BLEEP] and/or receive prefential treatment.
You can't tell me that black athletes never get stupid [BLEEP] they do overlooked because of their status. It's not a race issue.
Quote:You put in all the work to be good enough to earn an olympic medal for your nation you earn the right to stand there however you like.
And I have the right to disdain you as a disrespectful ingrate.
I have yet to receive "white privilege."
"Someone" owes me.
Quote:I have yet to receive "white privilege."
"Someone" owes me.
That air you're breathing?
White privilege.
Quote:Military personnel stand, face towards and salute the flag during the anthem, civilians place their hand over their heart and remove their hat. To not do so offends many Americans. You even referring to it being cheesy slightly offends me. I trained with some Aussie sailors and they saluted their flag if I recall correctly and they damn sure respected ours.
Edit; Damn, forgot to comment on the thread subject.
White privilege? No.White meathead is more like it. I bet he ate a lot of paint chips growing up.
I get military saluting it's part of life in the military. But most other nations at the Olympics would stand like Gabby did. She was hardly chatting away and ignoring the anthem.
Do you guys get the anthem played at school or something and taught to have your hand on heart? My girlfriend commented on it during the games too, comes across as a bit annoyingly nationalistic to others.
Quote:I get military saluting it's part of life in the military. But most other nations at the Olympics would stand like Gabby did. She was hardly chatting away and ignoring the anthem.
Do you guys get the anthem played at school or something and taught to have your hand on heart? My girlfriend commented on it during the games too, comes across as a bit annoyingly nationalistic to others.
As I said, it's public decorum in our society.
Quote:Liberals
Wait a second... I've been told over and over again in this sub forum that I'm a "you liberal".
But I don't care about this at all. Are you now gonna try and sit there and tell me that either
A. I actually do care, when in fact I could give a rat's (Bad Word Removed)?
Or
B. You are revoking my "you liberal" privileges?
Either way, I think you are over reaching by making a blanket statement. And in so doing are you are speaking in a lazy way that is inarticulate and inaccurate to boot.
Quote:As I said, it's public decorum in our society.
Seems like something a communist state would drum into the people though.
Not for the likes of the land of the free
Quote:And I have the right to disdain you as a disrespectful ingrate.
There have been times I haven't put my hand on my heart. That didn't make me any less passionate about my beloved country.
Beside, who made you the national anthem recognition police?
What happened to individual freedoms?? Putting your hand over your heart, or not, seems like a dumb way of extreme vetting ones loyalty to the great US of A.
Quote:Seems like something a communist state would drum into the people though.
Not for the likes of the land of the free
Americans care more about their idolatry and not their citizens or other humans. It's crazy you can turn one irate with a match and a US flag made in China, but don't give an American a free meal.
Quote:Seems like something a communist state would drum into the people though.
Not for the likes of the land of the free
You don't get it and that's fine. No one here is forced to do it. Those who do it do it out of respect and pride. I find your concern of it rather curious and odd.
Quote:You don't get it and that's fine. No one here is forced to do it. Those who do it do it out of respect and pride. I find your concern of it rather curious and odd.
Well kind of is forced having seen the reaction if you don't put your hand on your heart. Just doesn't seem indicative of a free society.
Constantly read here Australians aren't free as their are gun laws, yet over there you have to stand and act in a certain way during the anthem or be condemned. Looks like state sponsored control to the likes of me.
Quote:Well kind of is forced having seen the reaction if you don't put your hand on your heart. Just doesn't seem indicative of a free society.
Constantly read here Australians aren't free as their are gun laws, yet over there you have to stand and act in a certain way during the anthem or be condemned. Looks like state sponsored control to the likes of me.
Our government doesn't punish anyone for not holding their hand over their heart during the national anthem or pledge. Your government ships citizens to the outback gulag for so much as carrying a pellet rifle.
See the difference?
There's an out back gulag? Do they serve the blooming onion? If so, it sounds delightful.
Lol, does anyone else see the hilarity of libertarians telling us what is and isn't the correct way to observe the national anthem?
Quote:Lol, does anyone else see the hilarity of libertarians telling us what is and isn't the correct way to observe the national anthem?
Libertarians can criticize you all they want, but they wont force you to conform.
Do you even libertarian, bro?
Quote:I get military saluting it's part of life in the military. But most other nations at the Olympics would stand like Gabby did. She was hardly chatting away and ignoring the anthem.
Do you guys get the anthem played at school or something and taught to have your hand on heart? My girlfriend commented on it during the games too, comes across as a bit annoyingly nationalistic to others.
Most people have no idea what the military salute is about. In most cases you are not saluting the person, you are saluting the rank. It's an act of respect.
The same goes when the national anthem is played and the flag is displayed, it's an act of respect.
It used to be taught in schools that the national anthem and the pledge to the flag was all about respect for what our forefathers accomplished. We started from a group of people that were "outcasts" and people fleeing governments that were too oppressive. Many paid the ultimate price for our freedom (research the Revolutionary War). It was a war fought on our properties and around our homes.
Civilians were taught that the hand over the heart displayed the same respect and admiration for those that fell before us. This used to be taught at a young age and was a common practice in
government public schools.
That bit of respect is gone from many in our society today. Some people and in some cases groups of people have no idea what it's all about.
Quote:Libertarians can criticize you all they want, but they wont force you to conform.
Do you even libertarian, bro?
I am a libertarian, remember?
And yes, I think it's hypocritical to dictate decorum for something as personal as recognizing the national anthem, and then saying that people have a right to their own personal freedoms.
You're making a judgment against the individual freedoms of your fellow citizen.
That to me is very anti-libertarian.
Quote:I am a libertarian, remember?
And yes, I think it's hypocritical to dictate decorum for something as personal as recognizing the national anthem, and then saying that people have a right to their own personal freedoms.
You're making a judgment against the individual freedoms of your fellow citizen.
That to me is very anti-libertarian.
Exactly, it's a bizarre contradiction.
Usually when you see a lot of people all act in the same way during nationalistic event you are looking at Authoritarian regimes.
Quote:Wait a second... I've been told over and over again in this sub forum that I'm a "you liberal".
But I don't care about this at all. Are you now gonna try and sit there and tell me that either
A. I actually do care, when in fact I could give a rat's (Bad Word Removed)?
Or
B. You are revoking my "you liberal" privileges?
Either way, I think you are over reaching by making a blanket statement. And in so doing are you are speaking in a lazy way that is inarticulate and inaccurate to boot.
You should probably read the thread. I've said that I don't believe all liberals are crying about white privilege re: Lochte. However, 100% of the people that I've seen crying about it have been liberals, so therefor that is where my question is directed.
Get it?