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Quote:Gabby Douglas's antics started way before the medal ceremony.


Please do tell us. What else did she do to offend you?
Quote:Please do tell us. What else did she do to offend you?


From the second she started losing out on the All Around finals her non-verbals were screaming that she was in pout mode. I understand the disappointment in not getting to defend her medal, but her pose and attitude on the medal stand came out the moment she finished third and stayed at the surface the rest of the games.
Quote:From the second she started losing out on the All Around finals her non-verbals were screaming that she was in pout mode. I understand the disappointment in not getting to defend her medal, but her pose and attitude on the medal stand came out the moment she finished third and stayed at the surface the rest of the games.


Those were antics?


Could have been worse, she could have been Hope Solo.
Quote:Don't worry about why I care.  Worry about why you are worried about why I care.

 

But seriously, you have a level head and are a square dealer.  Your intellectually honest and clearly think for yourself.  You're completely wrong on alot of stuff.  But I agree with some of what you say as well.


But I don't care what you think, that's why I'm confused. Are you off your meds again? I read something about you having Alzheimer's, maybe you should look it up so you'll remember.
Quote:Those were antics?

Could have been worse, she could have been Hope Solo.


Simply compare Douglas in pictures from 2012 and 2016. It's not about how she feels about the flag or country or anything else but how she lost. And yes, Solo was awfully ungracious too, though the medal stand is a much brighter spotlight.
I dont look at it as white privilege. 

 

Im more concerned with how Rio basically force Lochte to make a donation in order to avoid having his VISA permanently revoked. 

Quote:I dont look at it as white privilege.


Im more concerned with how Rio basically force Lochte to make a donation in order to avoid having his VISA permanently revoked.


Thought that was the college kid from Georgia? Bentz?


Didn't Ryan get out of there before they detained the swimmers?
Quote:But I don't care what you think, that's why I'm confused. Are you off your meds again? I read something about you having Alzheimer's, maybe you should look it up so you'll remember.


As much as you want to try and fool us into thinking you're a big bad grizzly bear.


We see through you. Deep down, you sell fabric softener for Snuggles detergent.


You big teddy bear, you.
Lochte has always been an idiot. White privilege has nothing to do with anything here.  His own stupidity cost him what little credibility he had, and it's hitting him in the wallet with the loss of endorsements/sponsors.

Quote:Anchorman so what you are saying is its seen as the politically correct thing to do? JIB is just a bit sensitive?...
 

Rather than ask TAM about me and what I mean, why not ask me?

 

Proper etiquette regarding our flag and national anthem used to be taught in schools as the right thing to do (which it is).  For many years in schools all across the country the day used to be started by standing, placing your hand over your heart and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.  It doesn't happen as much anymore in today's society for a number of reasons.

 

1.  Far left liberal groups and atheist groups were suddenly "offended" by the word God being used in The Pledge.  Rather than just choose to refrain from saying two simple words that are part of The Pledge, they choose to "opt out" from any and all participation.  A few examples of this are as follows.

 

2.  Some will show disrespect by either turning their back or refusing to show even the slightest bit of respect for what our Flag, National Anthem or Pledge symbolizes.

 

3.  There are many in this country that are "ashamed" to be citizens.  You have some (by far mostly far left liberals) that will desecrate The Flag in a number of ways.

 

This issue has nothing to do with PC and everything to do with how the far left in this country are dividing us.  TAM just gets his panties in a wad because I happened to bring up many examples of how stupid PC stuff also contributes to this stuff.

 

I also take offense to anyone calling our national customs and traditions "commie".  Many men and women have paid the ultimate price in the past fighting communism so excuse me if I get offended by being called "commie".
Quote:Rather than ask TAM about me and what I mean, why not ask me?

 

Proper etiquette regarding our flag and national anthem used to be taught in schools as the right thing to do (which it is).  For many years in schools all across the country the day used to be started by standing, placing your hand over your heart and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.  It doesn't happen as much anymore in today's society for a number of reasons.

 

1.  Far left liberal groups and atheist groups were suddenly "offended" by the word God being used in The Pledge.  Rather than just choose to refrain from saying two simple words that are part of The Pledge, they choose to "opt out" from any and all participation.  A few examples of this are as follows.

 

2.  Some will show disrespect by either turning their back or refusing to show even the slightest bit of respect for what our Flag, National Anthem or Pledge symbolizes.

 

3.  There are many in this country that are "ashamed" to be citizens.  You have some (by far mostly far left liberals) that will desecrate The Flag in a number of ways.

 

This issue has nothing to do with PC and everything to do with how the far left in this country are dividing us.  TAM just gets his panties in a wad because I happened to bring up many examples of how stupid PC stuff also contributes to this stuff.

 

I also take offense to anyone calling our national customs and traditions "commie".  Many men and women have paid the ultimate price in the past fighting communism so excuse me if I get offended by being called "commie".
 

1. Those words were added in the 50's not part of the original pledge. As we are supposed to be a secular nation and establishing no religion adding a reference to one or more really isn't right but w/e.

 

2. Some people disrespect our flag by flying it along side the traitor's flag of the rebellion. 

 

3. There are many people in this country that actively hate this country and by extension it's flag by wanting to secede and make their own country. 

 

You have shown no disdain for points 2 or 3 in the past. You do it now because it gives a point of attack against your enemies the lefties.

 

It has everything to do with nationalistic political correctness. It's really not that big of a deal but it is 100% PC to you to not disrespect the flag. And here's a hint for you all the people who claim to hate political correctness when really they just want a license to be jerks in the face of it. it's not always a bad thing to be politically correct. 
These Lefties you talk of really should be more politically correct so they don't offend you in future JIB.

 

I will censor any use of the word commie in future too, though i'm slightly confused as it was ok for you to use the word first? Also it is an economic/political model, i'm not sure how a political model causes offense but I get it is 2016 and things aren't what they used to be and it is easy to cause offense.

Quote:1. Those words were added in the 50's not part of the original pledge. As we are supposed to be a secular nation and establishing no religion adding a reference to one or more really isn't right but w/e.

 

2. Some people disrespect our flag by flying it along side the traitor's flag of the rebellion. 

 

3. There are many people in this country that actively hate this country and by extension it's flag by wanting to secede and make their own country. 

 

You have shown no disdain for points 2 or 3 in the past. You do it now because it gives a point of attack against your enemies the lefties.

 

It has everything to do with nationalistic political correctness. It's really not that big of a deal but it is 100% PC to you to not disrespect the flag. And here's a hint for you all the people who claim to hate political correctness when really they just want a license to be jerks in the face of it. it's not always a bad thing to be politically correct. 
 

boudreaumw, do we really need to go through this?  That's a whole other topic and a whole other thread.  If you want to discuss it, I'm open to it.  I was simply making a point to our foreign friend as well as basically ignoring TAM's rhetoric.

 

So now it's not PC, it's "nationalistic political correctness"?  Is there some new term for that?
Quote:These Lefties you talk of really should be more politically correct so they don't offend you in future JIB.

 

I will censor any use of the word commie in future too, though i'm slightly confused as it was ok for you to use the word first? Also it is an economic/political model, i'm not sure how a political model causes offense but I get it is 2016 and things aren't what they used to be and it is easy to cause offense.
 

You're the one that caused offense by calling our custom regarding THE FLAG, THE PLEDGE and THE NATIONAL ANTHEM "commie".  I get that you're a brit probably still bitter that we succeeded in defeating your commanders and leaders and earned our freedom.  I get that you are probably jealous that our country was able to do so, then turned around to become the greatest country on earth.

 

It has nothing to do with being PC or "offended" in the liberal way.  However, those of us old enough to know what communism was/is back in the cold war and prior will never let that happen here (though there are some that want that nonsense here).

 

If you want to take a real close and hard look at what communism is all about, take a look at North Korea or Cuba.  Our country is not nearly as bad off as those countries and we don't impose anything near what they do.  If you want to take a look at a combination of communism and socialism, take a close look at Venezuela and see what's going on there.

 

I will call anyone that disrespects and/or rejects our patriotic customs a "commie" because those idiots think that there's a better way.

 
Quote:boudreaumw, do we really need to go through this?  That's a whole other topic and a whole other thread.  If you want to discuss it, I'm open to it.  I was simply making a point to our foreign friend as well as basically ignoring TAM's rhetoric.

 

So now it's not PC, it's "nationalistic political correctness"?  Is there some new term for that?
Go through what? That you ignore certain people disrespecting the flag but not others? You made points and I made points in the same vein, points you ignored. 

 

Don't play dumb, it suites the trumpettes on here just fine but not you. Or did adding an extra modifier onto a term you use incessantly really confuse you? Sheesh even when agreeing with you, you can't help but be antagonistic. 
Quote:You're the one that caused offense by calling our custom regarding THE FLAG, THE PLEDGE and THE NATIONAL ANTHEM "commie".  I get that you're a brit probably still bitter that we succeeded in defeating your commanders and leaders and earned our freedom.  I get that you are probably jealous that our country was able to do so, then turned around to become the greatest country on earth.
 

While living in Australia an Ex British Colony? I would have a lot of bitterness if I was upset about every country Britain doesn't control anymore? I probably can't even name half of them. I don't think you understand that American independence isn't remotely important to British people, in fact I bet many younger one's wouldn't even realise.

 

I'd rather live in Australia thanks.

 

Sorry to offend you snowflake on the commie thing...
Quote:You're the one that caused offense by calling our custom regarding THE FLAG, THE PLEDGE and THE NATIONAL ANTHEM "commie".  I get that you're a brit probably still bitter that we succeeded in defeating your commanders and leaders and earned our freedom.  I get that you are probably jealous that our country was able to do so, then turned around to become the greatest country on earth.

 

It has nothing to do with being PC or "offended" in the liberal way.  However, those of us old enough to know what communism was/is back in the cold war and prior will never let that happen here (though there are some that want that nonsense here).

 

If you want to take a real close and hard look at what communism is all about, take a look at North Korea or Cuba.  Our country is not nearly as bad off as those countries and we don't impose anything near what they do.  If you want to take a look at a combination of communism and socialism, take a close look at Venezuela and see what's going on there.

 

I will call anyone that disrespects and/or rejects our patriotic customs a "commie" because those idiots think that there's a better way.

 
This is your PC moment and you are offended by this. There is nothing wrong being offended which is exactly what you have expressed. You don't lose your "conservative" card just because you admit to being offended by a thing. 
Quote:This is your PC moment and you are offended by this. There is nothing wrong being offended which is exactly what you have expressed. You don't lose your "conservative" card just because you admit to being offended by a thing. 
 

He can't back down.  He's the one that thinks PC is ruining the country.  See, the problem is that JIB has been indoctrinated a long time ago, and now it's pretty much impossible for him to see the light.  He's listened to the far right wing tell him for decades now that PC is a major problem with this country and is leading to our ruin.

 

How many threads did he start in the spring about how PC is killing america and making us losers?  There were a few months where he would come up with one PC thing every week.  Now that we point out that his freak out with paying respect to the national anthem and the flag is actually a form of PC, he's having an anyeurism trying to deflect that away.

 

It's actually very fascinating to watch.
Quote:He can't back down. He's the one that thinks PC is ruining the country. See, the problem is that JIB has been indoctrinated a long time ago, and now it's pretty much impossible for him to see the light. He's listened to the far right wing tell him for decades now that PC is a major problem with this country and is leading to our ruin.


How many threads did he start in the spring about how PC is killing america and making us losers? There were a few months where he would come up with one PC thing every week. Now that we point out that his freak out with paying respect to the national anthem and the flag is actually a form of PC, he's having an anyeurism trying to deflect that away.


It's actually very fascinating to watch.


Eh... It's whatever. It's not the first time he's disappeared from a thread or ignored a post rather than just admitting being wrong. It's some weird kind of conservative pride I guess. Never admit you are wrong or allow your stance to be challenged. It's one of the biggest differences between conservatives and liberals. Liberals are willing to accept evidence and admit they are wrong. Conservatives' reality shatters should they do that.
Quote:While living in Australia an Ex British Colony? I would have a lot of bitterness if I was upset about every country Britain doesn't control anymore? I probably can't even name half of them. I don't think you understand that American independence isn't remotely important to British people, in fact I bet many younger one's wouldn't even realise.

 

I'd rather live in Australia thanks.

 

Sorry to offend you snowflake on the commie thing...
 

Ok bub
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