Quote:Not what I'm looking for. If you want tweets about how great someone is at a specific thing I can find plenty of them for everyone in the league.
Bridgewater faced some pressure? That doesn't really matter when you don't show how much Bortles faced. Same for accuracy. No QB in the league threw downfield more than Bortles did, a guy choosing to go conservative to increase his "accuracy" doesn't make him better.
When I say bring some links I mean with statistical analysis of the teams as a whole, because we already know that Bortles was far and away better than Teddy based on their performances. The only question is whether the Jaguars are just a far better team than one that made the playoffs last year in spite of their QB. I'm going to have to say that's probably not the case.
the pressure teddy faced doesnt really matter? Lol alrighty. The jags are a far better team on offense and anyone with eyes can see this. Teddy is working with damn near worse than what we gave blake in his rookie szn.
Quote:extremely accurate, smart, has tons of poise in the pocket when defenders arent in his face by the time he gets the ball in his hand, and can extend plays with his legs without being overly reliant on it.
lol, you are the only guy left that is still buying the pre draft hype. After 2 years in the league we know what he is at this point. The 32 teams that passed on him were right, he is weak armed a glorified game manager at best.
Quote:Pretty sure Bridgewater is dating his sister. That's the only way I see anyone defending him
Nah i just dont have some weird hate for him like the rest of this forum.
Quote:lol, you are the only guy left that is still buying the pre draft hype. After 2 years in the league we know what he is at this point. The 32 teams that passed on him were right, he is weak armed a glorified game manager at best.
Im buying what i see when i watch games, all those things i mentioned being drowned in a poor offense. Pretty absurd to say hes done progressing after only his second year especially since his growth has been hampered by poor surrounding cast.
I hate him because people put him on a high pedestal but when you look at the numbers and how he plays there's nothing impressive about him. Dude averages 1 TD 150-200 yards a game. I just don't understand why he is constantly in the conversation of good QBs with those pedestrian numbers
Quote:Nah i just dont have some weird hate for him like the rest of this forum.
just because the guy is not a good qb dont mean we hate him. Gabbert looked better than Teddy last year. Gabbert is not a good qb but I dont hate him either
Correction I hate the perception that he is a good QB
Quote:Remember that 80 yard TD to Hurns at the start of the 3rd quarter of the second colts game last year? If mariota or bridgewater even attempt that pass (and in mariota's case I doubt he would, guy is scared to throw anywhere except short over the middle of the field) it would have been a pick.
And you remember the plethora of pick sixes Blake has thrown the past years? Teddy and Mariota don't even attempt those boneheaded throws. It goes both ways.
Point is, every QB in this thread is an incomplete QB right now. Trying to rank them after two years is lunacy. Bortles on the Vikings last year wouldn't have made the playoffs, and Teddy on the Jags last year wouldn't have thrown for 35 TDs. They are very different QBs, on very different teams, with very different supporting casts, being asked to do very different things. Trying to definitively say either is better right now is just stupidity.
Until Teddy shows more in the vertical passing game (he has shown some impressive flashes of that potential), and until Blake reins in his boneheaded game throwing plays (which his red zone TD:INT rate shows is possible also) they are simply completely different but probably pretty equal QBs. Hopefully they both do cause they're both super easy to root for.
We think that Blake has now been given the defense, run game, and oline that he will be counted on to take that next step so we better get the answer on his development this year. The Vikings will still be leaning on the run game as long as they have an all time great at RB and perhaps the most pathetic WR corps in the league so we probably won't get the answer for sure on Teddy for a little longer.
Quote:And you remember the plethora of pick sixes Blake has thrown the past years? Teddy and Mariota don't even attempt those boneheaded throws. It goes both ways.
Point is, every QB in this thread is an incomplete QB right now. Trying to rank them after two years is lunacy. Bortles on the Vikings last year wouldn't have made the playoffs, and Teddy on the Jags last year wouldn't have thrown for 35 TDs. They are very different QBs, on very different teams, with very different supporting casts, being asked to do very different things. Trying to definitively say either is better right now is just stupidity.
Until Teddy shows more in the vertical passing game (he has shown some impressive flashes of that potential), and until Blake reins in his boneheaded game throwing plays (which his red zone TD:INT rate shows is possible also) they are simply completely different but probably pretty equal QBs. Hopefully they both do cause they're both super easy to root for.
We think that Blake has now been given the defense, run game, and oline that he will be counted on to take that next step so we better get the answer on his development this year. The Vikings will still be leaning on the run game as long as they have an all time great at RB and perhaps the most pathetic WR corps in the league so we probably won't get the answer for sure on Teddy for a little longer.
someone on here has a clue thank god
Quote:And you remember the plethora of pick sixes Blake has thrown the past years? Teddy and Mariota don't even attempt those boneheaded throws. It goes both ways.
Point is, every QB in this thread is an incomplete QB right now. Trying to rank them after two years is lunacy. Bortles on the Vikings last year wouldn't have made the playoffs, and Teddy on the Jags last year wouldn't have thrown for 35 TDs. They are very different QBs, on very different teams, with very different supporting casts, being asked to do very different things. Trying to definitively say either is better right now is just stupidity.
Until Teddy shows more in the vertical passing game (he has shown some impressive flashes of that potential), and until Blake reins in his boneheaded game throwing plays (which his red zone TD:INT rate shows is possible also) they are simply completely different but probably pretty equal QBs. Hopefully they both do cause they're both super easy to root for.
We think that Blake has now been given the defense, run game, and oline that he will be counted on to take that next step so we better get the answer on his development this year. The Vikings will still be leaning on the run game as long as they have an all time great at RB and perhaps the most pathetic WR corps in the league so we probably won't get the answer for sure on Teddy for a little longer.
There we have it, the guy that threw 35 TD passes is on the level of the guys that threw less than 20 TDs because the guy that threw 35 also threw one or two more pick sixes on the season than the other two. Flawless logic right there.
Quote:There we have it, the guy that threw 35 TD passes is on the level of the guys that threw less than 20 TDs because the guy that threw 35 also threw one or two more pick sixes on the season than the other two. Flawless logic right there.
The guy wouldn't have thrown even close to 35 TDs if he had the Vikings defense and AD on his team either. Not to mention replacing three receiving options much better than any the other QB has. You just can't compare it yet don't try.
Quote:This is an excellent description of Blake Bortles except Blake still shows poise when defenders are in his face. It's incredible how much time Blake consistently buys by subtly moving around in the pocket in order to get off his deep pass. You simply can't put some dink-and-dunk game manager in the same category as Bortles.
as if blake faced remotely close to the same pressure teddy was under lol. And smart is definitely not the first thing that jumps to mind when describing a qb who had two illegal forward passes in one game.
Quote:Teddy and Mariota are way better than you guys think lol this bias against them on here is pretty lame.
Teddy is currently better than Bortles, and dont quote me comparing touchdowns or some stupid sh*t like that.
You are delusional!!!! (Infinite amount of exclamation marks!)
Then you say don't quote you on comparing touchdowns????
"Yeah, Jimmy Smith is better than Jerry Rice.....but don't go comparing numbers...."
Dude what are you drinking??? What are you on???
Teddy Bridgewater is better than Blake Bortles? Oh my!
Go delete your account and go have a yard sale and move out of your house and change your name. Put your 2 week notice in at your job and claim insanity.
Holey Moley
Teddy is definitely more accurate on the short stuff. For the long haul, I would much rather have the QB with a vertical passing game and body that will last for 15 years.
Quote:you seem irrational
not me guy. Just trying to have a sound discussion on qbs but you guys wanna ignore supporting casts and write your own narratives :/
Quote:someone on here has a clue thank god
lol, he thought Geno Smith was the next great the year before and wanted us to take him in the first.
Quote:lol, he thought Geno Smith was the next great the year before and wanted us to take him in the first.
Best of a bad QB class = next great...yet you still refuse to tell the truth...