Quote:If Dante Fowler is what we hope he is then it may not come to that.
I don't know how much of an impact Fowler would have had on our W/L column... but he certainly would be getting more pressure than Clem/Branch
If this team wins the division in a sad state of 6-10, but then comes out flat next year, Fowler's production won't matter.
In year 4 the Gus Bus will have 0 excuses. The youth has matured, the top picks set the core, year 4 will be a big year for Gus.
Quote:When every coach in the AFC south could lose their job I'd say there is turmoil.
And yes how we win is important. It's a measuring stick how far this team is away from the big game. A lot of players care about this as well. It's a pride thing. You want to beat the best by every means. Wins are great but they don't always tell the story how good your team is.
Do you even follow the NFL? I've yet to hear an NFL coach say "We refuse to play our next opponent, as they are not at full strength, and to be the best you have to play the best." There isn't a coach in the NFL who isn't happy to play a team which is at less than full strength. Their jobs depend on wins, not style points.
Do you truly believe the two best teams play in the Super Bowl? Get real. Your won-loss record usually depends on two things - injuries and the schedule (when you play them and what shape they are in.)
Funny how the "great" coaches tend to be the ones with the great quarterbacks, or the once-in-a-lifetime defense. Is Gary Kubiak all of a sudden a HOF coach? What about Marvin Lewis? Mike McCarthy takes a lot of hits, but his team is in the SB running every year.
Like quarterbacks, head coaches get too much credit when they win and too much blame when they lose. It's a team game - players and coaches.
This calling for Bradley's head seems to be a vain attempt by some to act as if they have a clue. Are we supposed to be impressed?
Breaking news. Jags trade nobody to nobody for nobody. oh wait thats not breaking news. no surpise there. why would Jags make any kind of trade for.
Quote:Do you even follow the NFL? I've yet to hear an NFL coach say "We refuse to play our next opponent, as they are not at full strength, and to be the best you have to play the best." There isn't a coach in the NFL who isn't happy to play a team which is at less than full strength. Their jobs depend on wins, not style points.
Do you truly believe the two best teams play in the Super Bowl? Get real. Your won-loss record usually depends on two things - injuries and the schedule (when you play them and what shape they are in.)
Funny how the "great" coaches tend to be the ones with the great quarterbacks, or the once-in-a-lifetime defense. Is Gary Kubiak all of a sudden a HOF coach? What about Marvin Lewis? Mike McCarthy takes a lot of hits, but his team is in the SB running every year.
Like quarterbacks, head coaches get too much credit when they win and too much blame when they lose. It's a team game - players and coaches.
This calling for Bradley's head seems to be a vain attempt by some to act as if they have a clue. Are we supposed to be impressed?
How we win is important for the franchise. If we can only squeak out victories against teams who are decimated by injuries while we play our starters what does that tell us about our own team?
Quote:How we win is important for the franchise. If we can only squeak out victories against teams who are decimated by injuries while we play our starters what does that tell us about our own team?
we're not very good yet?
Did I miss the memo about the Jags even supposed to be remotely close to the playoffs this year?
And then if they back in with a losing record by winning the division that is going to be a bad thing?
Maybe I'm dumb.
Quote:That we got lucky.
Luck does not exist.
Except on the clots roster.
There is no such thing as good or bad luck. Stuff happens.
You win or you lose.
Someone does their job well, and another doesn't do it as well or well enough, including refs.
Magic, Tarot, Luck, time travel, spider-man.
Things that just don't exist in REAL life.
magic beans and fairy dust
I want some.
Quote:Agreed. We already set on offense. We are not talking a 1st or 2nd rounder.
idk about that man. It looks promising, that's for sure. But, the O-line in particular could be upgraded some more. And, if Julius Thomas doesn't heal and stay healthy the next season or two, theyight have to do something there also. You never know.
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Saying the roster is built is saying the pieces are in place for the foundation of this team to start to turn the corner. It's up to the players to recognize this and rise to the challenge. .
That's funny, I thought it was up to the coach to motivate the players and instill the winning mindset.
PS "... the pieces are in place for the foundation of this team to start to turn the corner." Sounds like the beginning of an excuse for yet another season of mediocrity (or worse). Not only is it based on the yet far from proven premise that the assembled "pieces" are sufficiently talented, but the language is noncommittal enough for a presidential debate.
When do we come out of the turn with the lead and the finish line in sight?
Why would a 2-5 team trade picks for veteran players about to hit free agency?
It's amusing to see some of the same people who insisted earlier in the season that wins and losses are all that count and that style points are irrelevant now claiming that winning the division would be worthless if it didn't come with enough style points. I'm sure there's a lesson to be drawn from that somewhere.
Quote:That's funny, I thought it was up to the coach to motivate the players and instill the winning mindset.
PS "... the pieces are in place for the foundation of this team to start to turn the corner." Sounds like the beginning of an excuse for yet another season of mediocrity (or worse). Not only is it based on the yet far from proven premise that the assembled "pieces" are sufficiently talented, but the language is noncommittal enough for a presidential debate.
When do we come out of the turn with the lead and the finish line in sight?
The coaches can only do so much. It's clear you've either never played a sport, or coached one.
I'm not sure why this "it's built" comment by Gus confuses some of you, but it's pretty clear that you're hoping and praying for the worst possible outcome for this team no matter what so that you can maintain your suspended misery. It's like you need to be in a perpetual state of anger about this team. It almost gives you purpose in life.
Quote:The coaches can only do so much. It's clear you've either never played a sport, or coached one.
I'm not sure why this "it's built" comment by Gus confuses some of you, but it's pretty clear that you're hoping and praying for the worst possible outcome for this team no matter what so that you can maintain your suspended misery. It's like you need to be in a perpetual state of anger about this team. It almost gives you purpose in life.
#motivation
Remember that's why the Phins did so well after Philbin was fired.
They were motivated by the new coach (and the firing of coaches)
thats why the ran train on the tinhorns and tacks....
and then lost all motivation when playing the Pats, apparently.
Quote:It's still possible the players could rise to the challenge this year and win the division. That said, keep in mind that key pieces to the built foundation have been missing. Fowler is gone all year. Julius and Sen'Derrick were missing early on, and now that they're back, Linder is missing. I'd say December would be that time to notice the finish line in site... if not this December than next December.
No doubt, the division title is up for grabs. It's not like all those years of chasing the Colts at 11-5 or better. In my mind, this only intensifies the pressure to produce on Gus. Every play could be the difference between playoff's and another disappointing season. If he can't motivate the team to come out on fire every game, it's time for him to go.
Julius is a proven talent and Sen'Derrick is good. Linder should continue to improve, but it's hard to think of a guy who's out for a year before his first full practice as a key part of a "built" anything.
Quote:The coaches can only do so much. It's clear you've either never played a sport, or coached one.
I'm not sure why this "it's built" comment by Gus confuses some of you, but it's pretty clear that you're hoping and praying for the worst possible outcome for this team no matter what so that you can maintain your suspended misery. It's like you need to be in a perpetual state of anger about this team. It almost gives you purpose in life.
"The coaches can only do so much."
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That's the best excuse you've got?
There's a rumor going around the NFL that not all coaches are equal. Some are even said to be better than others at motivating their players. Now, if this theory is true, it's possible another coach could achieve a higher level of performance out of the same group of players. I hope I'm not going to fast for you to follow.
I hope and pray for a win in every single game, even pre-season.
PS Coaching my son's Little League team was exactly like coaching the Jaguars; it didn't matter if we won or lost, the players all got ice cream after every game (with multi-colored, candy flavored particles scattered across the top).