Quote:As a rookie Bullock was 26 of 35 which at 74.3 percent is just as bad as Myers has been so far.
Last year Bullock did better, but 3 of his misses were under 40 yards including one under 30 yards.
Bullock is not that good.
And that's the problem with signing a guy now. Yes, they need to replace Myers. But the options out there are not much better.
Quote:In the 3rd preseason game this year, as in the game that teams play to win, Bullock missed a FG an an extra point. In the first three games this year he missed another FG (40-49 yard range), and was 3 of 5 on extra points.
Also remember that Myers did kick a 58-yarder game winner that is still the longest FG made this season in the NFL. Bullock's long over the first three games was 47 yards. Bullock's career long is 55 yards.
This is incorrect. The stats show that in the 2015 pre-season, Bullock was a
perfect 5/5 on FGs (tied for 1st in the NFL) and
7/7 (100%)on the longer 33-yard PATs. It shows in the 3rd pre-season game (looks like they played the Saints), that he was 2/2 (100%) with FGs and 3/3 (100%) with PATs. The Texans won that game 27-13, with his 9 points.
Official NFL website link for verification:
http://www.nfl.com/player/randybullock/2533444/gamelogs
Quote:This is incorrect. The stats show that in the 2015 pre-season, Bullock was a perfect 5/5 on FGs (tied for 1st in the NFL) and 7/7 (100%)on the longer 33-yard PATs. It shows in the 3rd pre-season game (looks like they played the Saints), that he was 2/2 (100%) with FGs and 3/3 (100%) with PATs. The Texans won that game 27-13, with his 9 points.
Official NFL website link for verification:
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/player/randybullock/2533444/gamelogs'>http://www.nfl.com/player/randybullock/2533444/gamelogs</a>
Jag02 got OWNED
Quote:In the 3rd preseason game this year, as in the game that teams play to win, Bullock missed a FG an an extra point. In the first three games this year he missed another FG (40-49 yard range), and was 3 of 5 on extra points.
Also remember that Myers did kick a 58-yarder game winner that is still the longest FG made this season in the NFL. Bullock's long over the first three games was 47 yards. Bullock's career long is 55 yards.
So disregarding the fact that your stats are incorrect..... He is still better than Myers.
Let's just draft one in the 2nd round.
He may still be suffering the quad strain.
I know many of us miss Scobee and his personality... and what he used to bring to the game; but look, none of us last forever and even Scobee realized he wasn't getting the job done like he used to. He was evaluated fairly and was beat out by a younger, stronger, less expensive (albeit less accurate) leg. Scobee then went to Pittsburgh, didn't cut the mustard there, and was cut. We'll all have great memories of what he (Scobee) did as a player here, but we really need to get over it and move on. The man is retired from the NFL. Instead of bemoaning Scobee, let's be thankful for the great kickers we've had here from the very start of this franchise.
Great kickers... at least up until now. Maybe Myers does have a strong leg, but he didn't show it in London. He has missed multiple extra point attempts. More extra point attempts are being whiffed now that the distance has been modified; however, to miss multiple times... unforgivable. He has missed multiple field goal attempts (game winners no less). He has kicked the ball out of bounds on kickoff... there is nothing that Jason Myers hasn't done wrong as a kicker here, and he hasn't been here a whole season yet! The only proven virtue that he has over Scobee is that he's cheaper. Well, our 'cheaper' alternative at kicker has so far failed to prove his worth even at a reduced cost.
It appears that Caldwell very well might have 'whiffed' on the Jason Myers selection for kicker. We need to go back to the apple barrel and keep looking; there's got to be someone out there better than this.
Quote:This is incorrect. The stats show that in the 2015 pre-season, Bullock was a perfect 5/5 on FGs (tied for 1st in the NFL) and 7/7 (100%)on the longer 33-yard PATs. It shows in the 3rd pre-season game (looks like they played the Saints), that he was 2/2 (100%) with FGs and 3/3 (100%) with PATs. The Texans won that game 27-13, with his 9 points.
Official NFL website link for verification:
http://www.nfl.com/player/randybullock/2533444/gamelogs
Quote:Jag02 got OWNED
Quote:So disregarding the fact that your stats are incorrect..... He is still better than Myers.
Oops. I saw that wrong... must have saw the regular season game three a second time as I was looking and thought it was preseason.
Still, I wouldn't say that one preseason stat makes Bulluck any better. He had basically an identical rookie season to Myers, and he was still 3 of 5 on extra points this year. He also still shanked one last year inside of 30 yards.
Quote:Oops. I saw that wrong... must have saw the regular season game three a second time as I was looking and thought it was preseason.
Still, I wouldn't say that one preseason stat makes Bulluck any better. He had basically an identical rookie season to Myers, and he was still 3 of 5 on extra points this year. He also still shanked one last year inside of 30 yards.
So we basically get rid of rookie year Myers and bring in 3 year vet Myers. I'm good with that.
Anyone see anything about who the other kickers we're looking at are? The Steelers found Chris Boswell in the deepest of scrap heaps, and I'd be curious to see how deep in the pile we're going. If it's just Bullock, Kyle Brindza and Zach Hocker or some other combination of guys who've already failed once in the 2015 season, I'd be a bit disappointed that we're not looking at guys who had good preseasons but were cut anyway.
Quote:Anyone see anything about who the other kickers we're looking at are? The Steelers found Chris Boswell in the deepest of scrap heaps, and I'd be curious to see how deep in the pile we're going. If it's just Bullock, Kyle Brindza and Zach Hocker or some other combination of guys who've already failed once in the 2015 season, I'd be a bit disappointed that we're not looking at guys who had good preseasons but were cut anyway.
I truly believe it pays off to go deep and untraditional in looking for a kicker. If you don't get one during the draft or udfa the odds are you'll be stuck in kicker purgatory recycling the same guys everyone else does. Doesn't hurt to try to break the cycle and go in a different direction. Plus, it seems like it usually takes a few go arounds to get an adequate replacement after moving on. It's what I've been worries about since Scobee's decline last year- it's very rare that a team goes straight from one good 10year kicker to the next. There's usually a couple of years where they try to find an answer.
Bullock has no leg. He was so bad outside of 40 yards his rookie season, they stopped giving him deep chances the following years even though the numbers got a bit better. He is also really bad kicking outdoors and in the 4th quarter.
Quote:If Josh Scobee was still good we would have kept him. His struggles started last year and he has gotten worse since then. Why do you think the Steelers cut him in favor of someone who had no history of kicking in the NFL?
This is not a true statement... Thats like saying "if Meyers were any good, then why are we working out more kickers?" Scobee was basically let go because he was in the final season of his contract, and we had a young kicker with a strong leg and potential... It just so happen the kid just doesnt have it.. And Scobee miss those kicks in one of the hardest stadium's to kick in.. Because its open towards the end zone that wind swirls in coming off the river... I thought u knew this tho! Im sure if Scobee had all training camp to kick there he wouldn't have any problems.
Quote:This is not a true statement... Thats like saying "if Meyers were any good then why are we working out more kickers"! Scobee was basically let go because he was in the final season of his contract, and we had a young kicker with a strong leg and potential... It just so happen the kid just doesnt have it.. And Scobee miss those kicks in one of the hardest stadium's to kick in.. Because its open towards the end zone that wind swirls in coming off the river... I thought u knew this tho! Im sure if Scobee had all training camp to kick there he wouldn't have any problems.
That's why Scobee was signed by another team so quickly after Pittsburgh cut him
Quote:That's why Scobee was signed by another team so quickly after Pittsburgh cut him
Teams were letting the hot commodity cool off a bit before pouncing.
I don't know. I just refuse to believe that a 33 year old kicker just instantly became bad. I've never seen anything bad from him in a Jaguars uniform to indicate otherwise.
He had 3 straight seasons were he missed 3 kicks or less in a season. Last season he missed 3, and 3 more were blocked and nobody is willing to give him any benefit of the doubt? People want to say all the blocks were his fault? He essentially missed 3 field goals last year (kicking much longer/harder field goals than the average) and none in 4 preseason games or a scrimmage and now he's done?
The Steelers obviously watched his tape from last season and felt he was worth a 6th round pick (very high for a kicker). Are the Steelers blind or did Scobee obviously not tank as bad many are exaggerating?
Could it be possible (maybe, just maybe) that the Jaguars were duped into believing in a career loser kicker because of a 6 week hot streak which basically made him dead even in competition with an older, much more expensive kicker?
Quote:That's why Scobee was signed by another team so quickly after Pittsburgh cut him
Quote:Teams were letting the hot commodity cool off a bit before pouncing.
Yeah, because teams put in waiver claims and run to sign self-proclaimed injured kickers regularly in the NFL.
Per DiRocco, the kickers that worked out were Bullock and Zach Hocker.
Quote:Are the Steelers blind or did Scobee obviously not tank as bad many are exaggerating?
Do you have eyes?