Quote:Love the phrase "Change just for the sake of change"
No... It's change because we suck and this team is poorly coached. This isn't "knee jerk" since we are basically 40 games into his career. He clearly doesn't know what he's doing and he still hasn't improved as a HC.
^This.
Quote:I disagree. While I think it's unlikely, it's not impossible that things could finally start clicking for this team as the season progresses. Khan did buy into the 4 year plan when he hired Caldwell. I don't see him abandoning the plan at this point. That's especially true if the team does continue to improve, and it starts to register with wins. The team is better than it was a year ago, or even 2 seasons ago. It's unfortunate that the wins aren't coming the way we'd like, but they will eventually. Does that save Gus? Not sure, but I think it really depends on where the team is at when the season ends.
Now it's a FOUR year plan? It wasn't in 2014. Will next year turn it into a FIVE year plan?
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Though, to expect what was presented as a three-year project to be bearing fruit 1.5 seasons in, at least by a noticeable margin on the win column, was unrealistic.
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/11/10/...-is-stupid
I know Prisco mentioned it, and I've heard it multiple times today...why are we making the comparison to 1996. It's such a ridiculous argument.
he actually talks about Tom Coughlin after 4-7 ripping off 5 straight. If we thought this team was going to get to 4-7 we wouldn't feel this way.
I am not on the midseason firing train. I don't know that it really helps all that much. You need someone to coach the team the rest of the way, and firing someone the Monday after the season sends the same message.
That being said, I think this team is looking 1-7 right in the face and at that point it gets hard to make a case for keeping the current regime.
This offensive line has been horrible. Blake hasn't been able to develop confidence to step up in the pocket, the RB's aren't pressing the hole with conviction. And everyone on this line are guys that this regime Wanted! #2 pick overall, priority FA, FA, high 3rd round pick, PRIORITY FA. You can't blame that on Gene Smith, its not the first year of a tear down where your filling in with three undrafted rookies. The idea that the running game is this horrible with a former head coach as the offensive line coach is pretty ridiculous. I think the WR's can play, I think the QB is making progress but he still makes way too many errors (and im not just talking about interceptions). We aren't good enough on defense to zoom out and see WR's streaking down the field while blake stares down guys who are double covered.
Defense, lack of talent. Guys can't win one on one. Every now and then an average team will hit a QB's arm and get a few fluke pics every few games. 6 games in our defensive backfield has 0 interceptions and our offensive backfield has 0 rushing touchdowns. That's pretty pathetic.
Prisco said something... cool. Does it matter? No.
I don't have a big problem with letting Bradley have a crack at a miracle turn around this season -- but I don't see them winning more than 5 games and they'd be lucky to pull that off. If he wins 6 or 7 then it becomes a tougher decision.
5 wins in year three is not enough to keep him around for a fourth year in my mind, so, barring a miracle -- he's likely either gone after London or in January.
Quote:I don't have a big problem with letting Bradley have a crack at a miracle turn around this season -- but I don't see them winning more than 5 games and they'd be lucky to pull that off. If he wins 6 or 7 then it becomes a tougher decision.
5 wins in year three is not enough to keep him around for a fourth year in my mind, so, barring a miracle -- he's likely either gone after London or in January.
My thinking is why delay the inevitable? You have a guy on staff who has been a head coach in the NFL. Won nine games with EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton at QB. Interviewed for other NFL jobs last year and may again this year. Give him a shot.
Quote:I don't have a big problem with letting Bradley have a crack at a miracle turn around this season -- but I don't see them winning more than 5 games and they'd be lucky to pull that off. If he wins 6 or 7 then it becomes a tougher decision.
5 wins in year three is not enough to keep him around for a fourth year in my mind, so, barring a miracle -- he's likely either gone after London or in January.
lol "let it play out"
Classic loser mentality. 40 games in man.... how much more do you have to find out?
Quote:My thinking is why delay the inevitable? You have a guy on staff who has been a head coach in the NFL. Won nine games with EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton at QB. Interviewed for other NFL jobs last year and may again this year. Give him a shot.
What could you lose with giving Marrone a shot? There are 2 scenarios. He turns it around and you have your coach for the future....OR....he sucks and we're at the same place we are now. Seems like no risk, high reward if you ask me.
Quote:What could you lose with giving Marrone a shot? There are 2 scenarios. He turns it around and you have your coach for the future....OR....he sucks and we're at the same place we are now. Seems like no risk, high reward if you ask me.
Pretty much.
there hasn't been an announcement yet... so he hasn't been fired. maybe next week. once he's fired, ya man, we're going places.
it's honestly better if we just ride it out and lose our games and secure the top draft pick. trying to salvage a 6-10 year is pointless
Quote:there hasn't been an announcement yet... so he hasn't been fired. maybe next week. once he's fired, ya man, we're going places.
it's honestly better if we just ride it out and lose our games and secure the top draft pick. trying to salvage a 6-10 year is pointless
Totally disagree. This young team needs a leader who is going to show them how to win games instead of how to lose them. Gus has shown this team how to get excited but not how to prepare and how to close out games. We need leadership more than anything on this team.
Quote:My thinking is why delay the inevitable? You have a guy on staff who has been a head coach in the NFL. Won nine games with EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton at QB. Interviewed for other NFL jobs last year and may again this year. Give him a shot.
Quote:lol "let it play out"
Classic loser mentality. 40 games in man.... how much more do you have to find out?
I just don't see Bradley, Marrone or any other coach coming in here and winning more than 4 more games. To me - it's more about giving him ample opportunity to hang himself thoroughly so I am certain he's a very significant part of the problem. There's lots of blame to go 'round and I'm more patient than you guys when it comes to placing it on the HC.
"40 games in" - is not a convincing argument to me. I'm really using THIS season to assess Bradley as it is only now that he has far fewer excuses not to be winning. He had a litany of them prior. I won't lose any sleep if he's gone after London, I just would understand if they give him the rest of the year.
Quote:Totally disagree. This young team needs a leader who is going to show them how to win games instead of how to lose them. Gus has shown this team how to get excited but not how to prepare and how to close out games. We need leadership more than anything on this team.
you aren't going to get that by promoting somebody already on staff... that is unless they are currently not doing their job and then suddenly start doing their job.
take the Dolphins for example. YAY Dan Campbell is gawd. Im sorry, are they winning the super bowl now? no, the team is not good enough. Neither are we.
I know that there have been coaches on teams that have been promoted to Interim HC, but how many of them get the job & keep the job
and do the have success?
I think Hue Jackson was one, but he got a raw deal when the new GM took over. I think he was actually doing well.
Quote:I know that there have been coaches on teams that have been promoted to Interim HC, but how many of them get the job & keep the job
and do the have success?
I think Hue Jackson was one, but he got a raw deal when the new GM took over. I think he was actually doing well.
rarely and not long sustaining success
Quote:rarely and not long sustaining success
i doubt its ever resulted in a long term replacement
Quote:i doubt its ever resulted in a long term replacement
however, in our instance....
Maronne was a HC, he chose to leave the Bills, as opposed to being a failed HC.
he was hired as an asst. HC, possibly for this very reason
So maybe Maronne would work out better than most interims do. Also, Maronne as Oline/Asst HC was hired before Oley, so maybe he'd be inclined to keeping him.
I think keeping the offensive staff together is most important.
Quote:Being more competitive would mean being in the play-off hunt.
I mean, what the heck is your definition of competitive? You compete for getting into the playoffs. You compete to win your division.
Come on, wrong_box, don't be obtuse. You know this was the year that "competitive" means actually winning games and being in the playoff hunt.
I would think competitive would mean having tighter closer games...Last year by halftime the game was over, this year we have still been in the game towards the end of the game...Look I'm not making any excuses or supporting Gus by any means, but this team is moving the ball much better than last year, still can't score enough, and the defense has disappeared...Last year we didn't have jack [BLEEP] for an offense, this year we can at least move the ball between the 20's lol...I think the spirit of the "being more competitive this year" statement is intended to mean being in the game the whole game and not having the game result known at halftime...
Quote:I would think competitive would mean having tighter closer games...Last year by halftime the game was over, this year we have still been in the game towards the end of the game...Look I'm not making any excuses or supporting Gus by any means, but this team is moving the ball much better than last year, still can't score enough, and the defense has disappeared...Last year we didn't have jack [BAD WORD REMOVED] for an offense, this year we can at least move the ball between the 20's lol...I think the spirit of the "being more competitive this year" statement is intended to mean being in the game the whole game and not having the game result known at halftime...
To me, being more competitive means playing as hard as you can, and winning half of the game you play in.