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Quote:The game has been continually mismanaged by Bradley. Bad use of timeouts, bad use of challenges, terrible second half adjustments. Since he got here. Nothing has changed.

 

There were 2nd half adjustments?

Quote:There were 2nd half adjustments?

 

Yeah. They stopped giving the ball to Yeldon.

Quote:The game has been continually mismanaged by Bradley. Bad use of timeouts, bad use of challenges, terrible second half adjustments. Since he got here. Nothing has changed.

 

Sure man.  Fire him when the season is over.  If you wanted a change for this season, firing the coach was something that should have been done at the end of last year.

Quote:This isn't a leadership issue. If anything it needs to be looked at from a management perspective. Do you think Gus is walking around to each meeting room and controlling everything? There all individual coordinators and position coaches that are responsible for the players development. The HC is a figure head. So why aren't we talking about firing Sullivan and Nathaniel Hackett if someones head needs to put on a spike to appease the masses?

 

Because you have a Head Coach for a reason.  Maybe because he is the...head coach.  Same reason you have a Captain of a ship, a manager of a team, a Chief among Indians.  One person is the ultimate leader and ultimately responsible.  It is their job to ensure success of whatever organization they are leading.  If something within the organization is going awry then they are responsible for making corrections. 

 

This is leadership 101!

 

Even Odrick sounds like Bradley in his post-game interview.  He was talking about how he thought he did decent and played alright, etc. (he was basically irrelevant in the game).  What happened to the players who were studs but leaders among men?  Players that would run for 200 yards and 3 TDs but the team lost and the only thing they said post-game was that we need to play better as a team to win!  Where's the leadership?

If we're being honest, there really aren't any cons. I think most of us could coach this team to 9 points and a double digit loss (that may be only a slight exaggeration)

Quote:Sure man.  Fire him when the season is over.  If you wanted a change for this season, firing the coach was something that should have been done at the end of last year.

 

What is the downside of firing him at the bye week if the team has 1 or 2 wins

Quote:What is the downside of firing him at the bye week if the team has 1 or 2 wins

What's the upside? Does the team automatically become playoff contenders?

While I'm as unhappy as anyone about the outcome of our opener, let's not get premature here. Talking about firing Gus just one game into the season? Seriously? We've had this discussion before, in detail, so there's really no point in flogging this horse again after only one game into the season.

 

Let's give Gus this season to show us what he can do as HC. He himself has said 'the team is built'. The Jags do have talent on the roster now on both offense and defense and we're not pure rookies anymore. He doesn't need to win a super bowl or make the play-off's or even reach 8-8 this season. The challenge is to see if the team can get to 6-10. That is a pathetic goal, but for this team it's a realistic goal. If we can pull out at least a 6-10 record (good wins, not garbage wins), then I think that the negatives of firing Gus should lead us to hang on to him a little longer.

 

If on the other hand after three years into a complete rebuild we can't even pull out a sorry 6-10 record, then someone has to be held accountable. If the primary culprit turns out to be poor quarterback performance (like we witnessed against the panthers) then I'd say Dave Caldwell is more culpable than Gus Bradley is for the debacle. If it seems to be more of an issue of poor scheming and even poorer preparation then yes, Gus Bradley should indeed be on the hot seat at the end of the season. Arguably, since Dave is the one who hired Gus, if Gus goes then Dave should be on the hot seat too.

 

However, understand this; firing the HC (and possibly the GM) would be devastating for the team. We would be looking at another three years of 'rebuilding' in the image of the new HC; and there is no guarantee that the new HC would be any better than what we had.

 

I would be v e r y  s l o w to jump on the 'fire Gus' bandwagon until it becomes almost mandatory.

Nobody is advocating for Shad Khan to call a press conference this morning and fire Bradley right now.  But the simple fact is, if we're still winless at the Bye, then it's probably time to say bye to Gus Bradley.  


Remember: Bradley picked Olson.  Which I thought was a bad choice to begin with, and I know others agree with me.  Maybe they prove us wrong in the next couple of games, but things do not look good right now.  Making bad choices at OC when you're a Defensive coach will kill your offense.  Especially with a young Quarterback.  


One pro to firing Bradley mid-season is that Marrone gets a tryout.  We get to see what he can do. 

Quote:What is the downside of firing him at the bye week if the team has 1 or 2 wins

 

It's going to do very little good or bad.  Which is my entire point, it's pointless.  If we are 0-8 or whatever, who cares what happens?  Let Jackson Deville's imposter coach.  I dont care.

Quote:Nobody is advocating for Shad Khan to call a press conference this morning and fire Bradley right now. But the simple fact is, if we're still winless at the Bye, then it's probably time to say bye to Gus Bradley.


Remember: Bradley picked Olson. Which I thought was a bad choice to begin with, and I know others agree with me. Maybe they prove us wrong in the next couple of games, but things do not look good right now. Making bad choices at OC when you're a Defensive coach will kill your offense. Especially with a young Quarterback.


One pro to firing Bradley mid-season is that Marrone gets a tryout. We get to see what he can do.

I think there are people who are calling for a press conference right now to fire Gus.

Quote:Nobody is advocating for Shad Khan to call a press conference this morning and fire Bradley right now.  But the simple fact is, if we're still winless at the Bye, then it's probably time to say bye to Gus Bradley.  


Remember: Bradley picked Olson.  Which I thought was a bad choice to begin with, and I know others agree with me.  Maybe they prove us wrong in the next couple of games, but things do not look good right now.  Making bad choices at OC when you're a Defensive coach will kill your offense.  Especially with a young Quarterback.  


One pro to firing Bradley mid-season is that Marrone gets a tryout.  We get to see what he can do. 

^This

You dont really get to see what a coach can do with like a week of preparation.

Quote:We can't go any farther back. We've won 7 games and got embarrased yesterday. I'm not following this. 0-5 is a strong possibility.

You can always get worse. To not think otherwise is only fooling yourself. I remember saying the same thing when we fired the guy in your avi for Mularkey.

It CAN get worse.  We did not lose 42-14 to the Titans at home.

Quote:It CAN get worse. We did not lose 42-14 to the Titans at home.

We haven't played them yet.

Quote:Nobody is advocating for Shad Khan to call a press conference this morning and fire Bradley right now. But the simple fact is, if we're still winless at the Bye, then it's probably time to say bye to Gus Bradley.


Remember: Bradley picked Olson. Which I thought was a bad choice to begin with, and I know others agree with me. Maybe they prove us wrong in the next couple of games, but things do not look good right now. Making bad choices at OC when you're a Defensive coach will kill your offense. Especially with a young Quarterback.


One pro to firing Bradley mid-season is that Marrone gets a tryout. We get to see what he can do.

My thoughts exactly. Especially about Marrone. I'd love to see what he can do.

Quote:I think there are people who are calling for a press conference right now to fire Gus.

 

It's not that many.  But I think alot of us see the upcoming games and know they are not winning more than 1 or 2 before the bye. Just like last year and the year before that.

PROS: Give fans satisfsction for the first time in 3 years

CONS: uuuuum.... i got nothing.

You know Doug Marrone is on the sideline givin him sideye like you fo real son.