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Will the Jags have enough cap space to resign Ramsey, Jack and Ngakoue??

#61

(08-10-2018, 09:42 AM)JagFanFirst Wrote: Jags 02--I actually had a nightmare that Ramsey signed with the Tacks. He is from the Nashville area. Maybe he grew up a Titans fan.


They'd actually have a darn good team with Ramsey on their roster. That so can't happen.

(08-10-2018, 10:10 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(08-09-2018, 10:34 AM)brianmsbc Wrote: You should be more worried about our sun becoming a red giant and evaporating the earth. It will happen sooner than Ramsey wearing another teams jersey.

You remember how many teams Deion and Revis played for, right? They may be the two best corners in recent memory, and their loyalty was to the paycheck, not the helmet logo. I definitely see Ramsey playing under a second contract with the franchise, but it is extremely rare in today's game for a player to only suit up for one franchise.


I recall one season when all the Cowboys players agreed to take a pay cut so they could sign Deion Sanders. 
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#62

(08-10-2018, 01:00 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: Then you have Dareus. I love his ability to stop the run, but he's been a little unstable off the field. Is he someone the Jags would look at cutting?


Simply put, Dareus is going to need a MONSTER season if he's to remain on the roster next year. With that said, word is he's already been beasting out there in practice.
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(This post was last modified: 08-12-2018, 11:14 AM by JaG4LyFe.)

There's tons of DL coming out next year in the draft. We're guaranteed to cut one if not two.
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#64

I look for Dareus to be let go due to the numbers game. Possibly Jackson too.
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#65

I was called a nutter for thinking Jackson could go next year. I think if we have another good year, maybe we can get Campbell and Jackson to restructure and only have to cut dareus. With a higher cap + 1 of our 3 big money linemen gone and 2 restructured deals, we would be able to keep Ramsey, YN, and Jack. Another thing to consider is Lee and Moncrief can also be trimmed fat. If Westbrook, Cole, and Chark ball out the need to resign Moncrief is 0 and Lee could be trade material. This is all hypothetical what ifs, and a little farfetched but oh well lol. That's my take.
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(08-12-2018, 10:51 AM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: There's tons of DL coming out next year in the draft.  We're guaranteed to cut one if not two.

Dexter Lawrence would be the perfect replacement for Dareus
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#67

(08-07-2018, 10:45 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: Those guys, drafted 1-2-3 might be the best 1-2-3 trio ever drafted by this team. And they are the heart of our defense. A lot of our long term success depends on keeping them right here in Jacksonville.

I think we'll probably have to pass on Fowler this year. And we might have to let Malik Jackson go. Will that be enough?

When I see that order in one draft, it does remind me of how an NFL dynasty is built.
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#68

(08-12-2018, 03:46 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: I look for Dareus to be let go due to the numbers game. Possibly Jackson too.

Isn't Jackson one of the cheaper of the 3? (Campbell, Jackson, Dareus)
And isn't he younger?
Also they all play different spots right? Big end, 3T and 5T

I just think Campbell is the most likely, big cap hit and his replacement was drafted.
Dareus has the biggest cap hit and he could go too, but only if they feel Abry can step back in and be effective or if they have an eye on a beast NT/5T coming out of the draft next year.
As per the 3T... do we have anyone that is really ready to step in there full time? IDK...
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#69

(08-16-2018, 09:20 AM)Kane Wrote:
(08-12-2018, 03:46 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: I look for Dareus to be let go due to the numbers game. Possibly Jackson too.

Isn't Jackson one of the cheaper of the 3? (Campbell, Jackson, Dareus)
And isn't he younger?
Also they all play different spots right? Big end, 3T and 5T

I just think Campbell is the most likely, big cap hit and his replacement was drafted.
Dareus has the biggest cap hit and he could go too, but only if they feel Abry can step back in and be effective or if they have an eye on a beast NT/5T coming out of the draft next year.
As per the 3T... do we have anyone that is really ready to step in there full time? IDK...


Here are their cap numbers for 2019...
  • Malik Jackson - $13 mil base salary + $2 mil SB hit = $15 mil cap hit ... $4 mil dead money if released results in $11 mil savings
  • Calais Campbell - $12 mil base salary + $1.5 mil SB hit + $1 mil option bonus = $14.5 mil cap hit ... $3 mil dead money if released prior to option bonus being paid, or $4 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $11.5 mil if released early
  • Marcel Dareus - $8,335,000 base salary + $2 mil roster bonus + $250,000 workout bonus = $10,585,000 cap hit ... zero dead money if released prior to roster bonus being paid, or $2.25 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $10.6 mil if released early

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(08-16-2018, 11:56 AM)Jags02 Wrote:
(08-16-2018, 09:20 AM)Kane Wrote: Isn't Jackson one of the cheaper of the 3? (Campbell, Jackson, Dareus)
And isn't he younger?
Also they all play different spots right? Big end, 3T and 5T

I just think Campbell is the most likely, big cap hit and his replacement was drafted.
Dareus has the biggest cap hit and he could go too, but only if they feel Abry can step back in and be effective or if they have an eye on a beast NT/5T coming out of the draft next year.
As per the 3T... do we have anyone that is really ready to step in there full time? IDK...


Here are their cap numbers for 2019...
  • Malik Jackson - $13 mil base salary + $2 mil SB hit = $15 mil cap hit ... $4 mil dead money if released results in $11 mil savings
  • Calais Campbell - $12 mil base salary + $1.5 mil SB hit + $1 mil option bonus = $14.5 mil cap hit ... $3 mil dead money if released prior to option bonus being paid, or $4 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $11.5 mil if released early
  • Marcel Dareus - $8,335,000 base salary + $2 mil roster bonus + $250,000 workout bonus = $10,585,000 cap hit ... zero dead money if released prior to roster bonus being paid, or $2.25 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $10.6 mil if released early

It's going to have to be more players released because remember the Jags are already 20-30M in the red for 2019 without attributing the salary cap increase. So just to get in the clear, it's those players. Then to resign, going to need more space. This defense will look significantly different next season, the time is now to win.
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(This post was last modified: 08-16-2018, 12:42 PM by Kane.)

(08-16-2018, 11:56 AM)Jags02 Wrote:
(08-16-2018, 09:20 AM)Kane Wrote: Isn't Jackson one of the cheaper of the 3? (Campbell, Jackson, Dareus)
And isn't he younger?
Also they all play different spots right? Big end, 3T and 5T

I just think Campbell is the most likely, big cap hit and his replacement was drafted.
Dareus has the biggest cap hit and he could go too, but only if they feel Abry can step back in and be effective or if they have an eye on a beast NT/5T coming out of the draft next year.
As per the 3T... do we have anyone that is really ready to step in there full time? IDK...


Here are their cap numbers for 2019...
  • Malik Jackson - $13 mil base salary + $2 mil SB hit = $15 mil cap hit ... $4 mil dead money if released results in $11 mil savings
  • Calais Campbell - $12 mil base salary + $1.5 mil SB hit + $1 mil option bonus = $14.5 mil cap hit ... $3 mil dead money if released prior to option bonus being paid, or $4 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $11.5 mil if released early
  • Marcel Dareus - $8,335,000 base salary + $2 mil roster bonus + $250,000 workout bonus = $10,585,000 cap hit ... zero dead money if released prior to roster bonus being paid, or $2.25 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $10.6 mil if released early

Ah quite the opposite.

(08-16-2018, 12:31 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(08-16-2018, 11:56 AM)Jags02 Wrote: Here are their cap numbers for 2019...
  • Malik Jackson - $13 mil base salary + $2 mil SB hit = $15 mil cap hit ... $4 mil dead money if released results in $11 mil savings
  • Calais Campbell - $12 mil base salary + $1.5 mil SB hit + $1 mil option bonus = $14.5 mil cap hit ... $3 mil dead money if released prior to option bonus being paid, or $4 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $11.5 mil if released early
  • Marcel Dareus - $8,335,000 base salary + $2 mil roster bonus + $250,000 workout bonus = $10,585,000 cap hit ... zero dead money if released prior to roster bonus being paid, or $2.25 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $10.6 mil if released early

It's going to have to be more players released because remember the Jags are already 20-30M in the red for 2019 without attributing the salary cap increase. So just to get in the clear, it's those players. Then to resign, going to need more space. This defense will look significantly different next season, the time is now to win.

They have like 18 mil to rollover as well.
Chruch and Gip are options for cutting as well to save some $.
Restructuring is possible for some guys too.
Lee could be cut after 1 year into his deal for some savings as well I think.

Also when time to do Ramsey deal, maybe AJ is let go and a guy like Patmon has developed (or we draft another DB high)
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(08-16-2018, 12:31 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(08-16-2018, 11:56 AM)Jags02 Wrote: Here are their cap numbers for 2019...
  • Malik Jackson - $13 mil base salary + $2 mil SB hit = $15 mil cap hit ... $4 mil dead money if released results in $11 mil savings
  • Calais Campbell - $12 mil base salary + $1.5 mil SB hit + $1 mil option bonus = $14.5 mil cap hit ... $3 mil dead money if released prior to option bonus being paid, or $4 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $11.5 mil if released early
  • Marcel Dareus - $8,335,000 base salary + $2 mil roster bonus + $250,000 workout bonus = $10,585,000 cap hit ... zero dead money if released prior to roster bonus being paid, or $2.25 mil dead money if released later ... savings is $10.6 mil if released early

It's going to have to be more players released because remember the Jags are already 20-30M in the red for 2019 without attributing the salary cap increase. So just to get in the clear, it's those players. Then to resign, going to need more space. This defense will look significantly different next season, the time is now to win.


Go by Overthecap's figure as far as where the Jaguars stand in 2019. Early in this thread, I explained why their $19.4 mil-over figure for 2019 is more accurate. As for the rollover money, it appears the Jaguars are currently only $13 mil under. If they're able to roll this much over then we're only $6.4 mil over, so releasing any one of the three DLs would put the Jaguars under the cap with room to spare. 
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#73

(08-16-2018, 01:05 PM)Jags02 Wrote:
(08-16-2018, 12:31 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: It's going to have to be more players released because remember the Jags are already 20-30M in the red for 2019 without attributing the salary cap increase. So just to get in the clear, it's those players. Then to resign, going to need more space. This defense will look significantly different next season, the time is now to win.


Go by Overthecap's figure as far as where the Jaguars stand in 2019. Early in this thread, I explained why their $19.4 mil-over figure for 2019 is more accurate. As for the rollover money, it appears the Jaguars are currently only $13 mil under. If they're able to roll this much over then we're only $6.4 mil over, so releasing any one of the three DLs would put the Jaguars under the cap with room to spare. 

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