One thing for sure...
She knew who he was...
She knew he was married...
and She knew exactly what she was doing.

Old news now...gruden is this weeks news

Gruden is in the headlines.  What was that bit he had on MNF? Grudens Grinders?  I wonder if Caymwn Nebraska made the list.

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Not for someone in her 30s... but for 24? Yikes... too many bars that allow smoking.

And I bet she has sharp knees too. 

Elbows definitely too pointed

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This is just a pic from the “late 30’s” looking woman that isn’t hot.  Seriously, as a straight man, how would you say this is “unattractive”?  Idc if she’s 24 or 44.

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Urban Meyer is thankful for Jon Grudens emails.

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Urban Meyer is thankful for Jon Grudens emails.

Didn’t you get the ban hammer? And why did it stop? The last few days were nice.

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This is just a pic from the “late 30’s” looking woman that isn’t hot.  Seriously, as a straight man, how would you say this is “unattractive”?  Idc if she’s 24 or 44.

She’s pretty, and I’m straight.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

Urban Meyer is thankful for Jon Grudens emails.

Didn’t you get the ban hammer? And why did it stop? The last few days were nice.

If he keeps violating forum rules, it's fina happen.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you. 
Check out the Jag's Forum Alternative: Duval Football Fans.

This is just a pic from the “late 30’s” looking woman that isn’t hot.  Seriously, as a straight man, how would you say this is “unattractive”?  Idc if she’s 24 or 44.

She’s pretty, and I’m straight.

Damn straight!  I’ve got to laugh though.  My wife will watch something and say “I think she’s pretty”. I’m thinking, she’s freaking hot as [BLEEP]!  Pretty is a disrespectful!

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Didn’t you get the ban hammer? And why did it stop? The last few days were nice.

If he keeps violating forum rules, it's fina happen.

Fair enough, just a matter of time.

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Most likely, but since she was a willing participant, the media can't really make any more of a story out of it than what was shown. Now if Urbs was grinding, not only is that a picture no one wants inside their head, she would be the star lineup on all the major news outlets.

Grinding is an acceptable dance form.

Trying to over-the-jeans finger a chick isn't a dance. It's just trying to get laid.

Grinding is not an acceptable dance form especially when you consider the fact that Meyer is sitting down and not even dancing. It's a form of sexual advancement that involves making contact with another person's genitalia. It is sexual contact with the sole intention to sexually arouse the person you are making contact with.

Any potential claim of unwanted sexual advances by the female legally goes out the door after seeing that video.

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Grinding is an acceptable dance form.

Trying to over-the-jeans finger a chick isn't a dance. It's just trying to get laid.

Grinding is not an acceptable dance form especially considering the fact that Meyer was sitting down and not even dancing. It is a form of sexual contact with the sole intention to sexually arouse your partner.

Any potential claim of unwanted sexual advances goes out the door after that.

Kinda hard to disagree with this.

Without being prudish here or wanting to be judgmental, neither participant's actions seem particularly commendable.

Do I wish them to don the scarlet letter?

No.

Do I necessarily think one or both parties are innately bad people or evil?

No.

Just not a good look for either person.

My only point of contention here is some people obviously find that acceptable because it happens all the time.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

This is just a pic from the “late 30’s” looking woman that isn’t hot.  Seriously, as a straight man, how would you say this is “unattractive”?  Idc if she’s 24 or 44.

Attractiveness is subjective. I have a friend who only dates women over 200 lbs and another that only dates very petite women. I worked with a guy at my old job who liked women who didn't shave their legs or armpits. I knew his girlfriend. She would wear shorts and her legs were hairier than mine. Everyone has different taste and some people have strange attractions.

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Two dirtbags in one picture. Very telling.

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I bet urban took this chick back to his room and as he said "clear my head," The bigger issue is taking a mini vacation while the team is very young and 0-4.

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https://youtu.be/-ivZaCGf9Z4

This kind of sums it up….

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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!

This is just a pic from the “late 30’s” looking woman that isn’t hot.  Seriously, as a straight man, how would you say this is “unattractive”?  Idc if she’s 24 or 44.

Attractiveness is subjective. I have a friend who only dates women over 200 lbs and another that only dates very petite women. I worked with a guy at my old job who liked women who didn't shave their legs or armpits. I knew his girlfriend. She would wear shorts and her legs were hairier than mine. Everyone has different taste and some people have strange attractions.

Haha all of this is TMI but I guess the conversation continues. I will go make some more popcorn

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This is just a pic from the “late 30’s” looking woman that isn’t hot.  Seriously, as a straight man, how would you say this is “unattractive”?  Idc if she’s 24 or 44.

She's attractive.

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This is just a pic from the “late 30’s” looking woman that isn’t hot.  Seriously, as a straight man, how would you say this is “unattractive”?  Idc if she’s 24 or 44.

She's attractive.

Uhh. That chin looks a tad.... weird... but who am I to judge?

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Monica Lewinsky and many other women these past ten years or so would disagree. Maybe not "assault", but it's definitely viewed as more repugnant now.

Monica Lewinsky was an intern in the White House…Clinton was literally her boss. That’s a huge difference.

It’s interesting that no one is claiming she sexually assaulted him by grinding in his lap. If grabbing her butt is assault, then her rubbing that butt all over him should be equally classified as assault.

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And Tiger Woods wasn't the Perkins waitress' boss either, but like she said there's enormous pressure when you're trying to say no to the most powerful person you've ever known.

There was nothing about the woman giving Urbs a lap dance in public that shows she was trying to say no to anything.

gonna rec this to the moon for its truth.

She knew exactly who he was, and still chose to do what she done, I got little to no sympathy for her having to deal with fallout.

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She's attractive.

Uhh. That chin looks a tad.... weird... but who am I to judge?

A blind man evidently.

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