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Trump Guilty
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(06-14-2024, 09:52 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:(06-14-2024, 09:44 PM)mikesez Wrote: Sure, but tell me what he did and why it was OK. But when I say what I think he did, you don't say, "it's OK to do that," you say, "he didn't do that, you made it up." so tell me, what did he actually do?
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(06-14-2024, 09:54 PM)mikesez Wrote:(06-14-2024, 09:52 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: No, because my answer isn't going to change. He did nothing wrong. He told them to peacefully protest..
(06-14-2024, 10:09 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:(06-14-2024, 09:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: But when I say what I think he did, you don't say, "it's OK to do that," you say, "he didn't do that, you made it up." so tell me, what did he actually do? You are literally arguing with a wall, lol. (06-14-2024, 10:09 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:(06-14-2024, 09:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: But when I say what I think he did, you don't say, "it's OK to do that," you say, "he didn't do that, you made it up." so tell me, what did he actually do? Do you have a quote for that?
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
(06-14-2024, 10:24 PM)mikesez Wrote:(06-14-2024, 10:09 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: He told them to peacefully protest.. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN29B2UT/ (06-14-2024, 10:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:(06-14-2024, 10:09 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: He told them to peacefully protest.. Yeah I know.. Literally sitting here watching the yanks beat my Sox, 8-1 in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs.. I don't mind kickin the dog a few times lolol We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-14-2024, 07:34 PM)mikesez Wrote:(06-14-2024, 05:32 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Wow.. You got "Go inside and take over" from all that?!? He gave a speech at a rally, after which he went back to the White House. Nothing in the speech exceeded his 1st Amendment rights. After his departure, many of those present marched to the Capital and the rally evolved into a protest. A handful of protesters tried to force their way inside and began struggling with Capitol Police. Many others who probably wouldn't have initiated such an action on their own, spontaneously joined in and the event turned violent. After the perimeter was breeched and protesters entered the building, some Police gave up and allowed many more to walk in unimpeded. Most of those who entered were completely peaceful and just wandered around taking pictures. Meanwhile, back at the White House, Trump did little to quell the crowd. It was poor leadership, but neither criminal, nor proof of any conspiracy. You're desperate to believe him guilty of insurrection, but supporting facts simply don't exist.
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(06-15-2024, 08:46 AM)Sneakers Wrote:(06-14-2024, 07:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: I didn't say take over. Let me ask you a simple question. What was the point of that rally? What was supposed to happen as a result of that rally? "Stop the steal." The election was over. There's no legal way to overturn it at that point. So why have a rally at all?
(06-15-2024, 09:51 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:(06-15-2024, 08:46 AM)Sneakers Wrote: He gave a speech at a rally, after which he went back to the White House. Nothing in the speech exceeded his 1st Amendment rights. Because Trump likes to hold rallies for his base. He's a rally holding, campaigning machine. And apparently from what I've read, a 1/3 of the country believes that the 2020 election was stolen from him and in that case, those "Stop The Steal" rallies are justified. And as more evidence comes out, I bet it's now more than a 1/3rd.. (06-15-2024, 08:46 AM)Sneakers Wrote:(06-14-2024, 07:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: I didn't say take over. That right there is disqualifying to me. "Protect and defend the constitution" is a vague term most days. That day, it wasn't. Even if I agree with you that it was nothing more than poor leadership, it was poor leadership in a very critical moment, right?
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-15-2024, 10:10 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:(06-15-2024, 09:51 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Let me ask you a simple question. What was the point of that rally? What was supposed to happen as a result of that rally? "Stop the steal." The election was over. There's no legal way to overturn it at that point. So why have a rally at all? There hasn't been any evidence anywhere close to the magnitude required for the allegations to be believable. The only reason 1/3 believes it was stolen is because 1/3 of the country would believe literally anything he said often enough. Prove me wrong. Is there something, anything that Trump has repeatedly and consistently said that you think is not actually true? But I do agree with you about one thing, if anyone actually is trying to steal or ignore an election result, if there is ample evidence of it, massive protests are required to resist it.
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(06-15-2024, 11:39 AM)mikesez Wrote:(06-15-2024, 10:10 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Because Trump likes to hold rallies for his base. He's a rally holding, campaigning machine. And apparently from what I've read, a 1/3 of the country believes that the 2020 election was stolen from him and in that case, those "Stop The Steal" rallies are justified. I along with others have given you plenty of fraudulent evidence. Almost 4 years worth, not my fault you're too stupid to see it.
06-15-2024, 12:17 PM
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Just for the stupid people
https://twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/statu...A-0Ug&s=19 https://twitter.com/TaraBull808/status/1...WKW0w&s=19 https://twitter.com/JDunlap1974/status/1...Xdw2g&s=19 https://twitter.com/DsJ0URNEY/status/180...dPoZA&s=19 https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/stat...jLpbA&s=19 https://twitter.com/WeThePeople021/statu...NV5Xw&s=19 https://twitter.com/GigaBeers/status/180...Vj1vA&s=19 https://twitter.com/JDunlap1974/status/1...cHFog&s=19 That last one is my favorite though.. The devil is in the details. So.. [BLEEP] you with your fake, "It never happened" bull [BLEEP].. It happened, get over it.
06-15-2024, 12:30 PM
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https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/180200...vaiFg&s=19 We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-15-2024, 12:17 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Just for the stupid people Hundreds of cases were brought before state and federal judges. Elected judges. Republican appointed judges. Democrat appointed judges. Why did none of those cases get off the ground? If the claims were worth pursuing, why didn't any of the judges pursue them? Why are multiple lawyers now disbarred for bringing those cases?
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06-15-2024, 03:08 PM
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(06-15-2024, 03:08 PM)mikesez Wrote:(06-15-2024, 12:17 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Just for the stupid people They didn't get off the ground because they were thrown out by activist liberal judges and Biden's DOJ.. And a lot of those cases are starting to be re-examined.
06-15-2024, 03:19 PM
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(06-15-2024, 03:08 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:(06-15-2024, 03:08 PM)mikesez Wrote: Hundreds of cases were brought before state and federal judges. Elected judges. Republican appointed judges. Democrat appointed judges. Why did none of those cases get off the ground? If the claims were worth pursuing, why didn't any of the judges pursue them? Why are multiple lawyers now disbarred for bringing those cases? The Republican governors of AZ, and GA allowed pro Biden activist judges to be on the bench?
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(06-15-2024, 03:19 PM)mikesez Wrote:(06-15-2024, 03:08 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: They didn't get off the ground because they were thrown out by activist liberal judges and Biden's DOJ.. Does it surprise you? Would anything really surprise you about The Republicans anymore? Don't answer that, because we all know the reason. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-15-2024, 03:29 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:(06-15-2024, 03:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: The Republican governors of AZ, and GA allowed pro Biden activist judges to be on the bench? Suppose you're right. (You're not) But suppose you are. The Constitution that we both claim to love basically requires consent and cooperation at multiple levels in multiple ways. If every judge, even Republican judges, really wanted Trump gone that bad, what would that say about Trump's job performance?
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06-15-2024, 03:52 PM
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(06-15-2024, 03:48 PM)mikesez Wrote:(06-15-2024, 03:29 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Does it surprise you? Would anything really surprise you about The Republicans anymore? When has the democrats recently ever followed The Constitution? They can't even follow their own laws or regulations!! They constantly break laws and violations that put people in harms way. How many murderers, psychopaths, rapists and pedophiles get to go free in our judicial system?!? Liberal.. Judges.. But God forbid a couple of kids ride across a [BLEEP] pride flag painting. Then it's a manhunt. And you have the audacity..
These liberal pieces of [BLEEP] judges even tried to UnConstitutionally keep Trump off the ballot in certain states.. You don't think their scumbag cohorts wouldn't try to help overthrow an election?!?
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