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Let's Talk About- Political Edition


(07-22-2024, 12:44 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-22-2024, 12:25 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: In 2011 when he was a businessman and democrat?

I guess so.  It's still kind of funny, though.  To me, at least.

If CA is anything like NY, only a fool would do business there without first contributing to winning candidates.
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(07-22-2024, 02:50 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(07-22-2024, 12:24 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: There was an article posted here in the last few weeks saying the Biden administration was working towards bringing back the draft so the idea is not far fetched. 

I read a different article regarding European countries bringing back conscription and was impressed with Norway's system of having 20+ thousand active military members but can call up to a million 'reservists' if needed. I wonder how often those citizen soldiers train.

I worked with a lot of Norwegians when I was a government contractor.  Their system is very different from ours.  It's pretty much a "normal job" to them (they can quit at any time or be fired for any number of reasons).  I'm not sure how their "army" works since I dealt with aircrews (pilots, flight engineers, sensor operators, etc.), but I remember one pilot instructor in particular that told me that he was "quitting" to take on a new job of the equivalent of our Secret Service.  I asked him if he needed to finish his term (as in enlistment contract) and he told me that they don't have contracts.

Interesting. I may have to do some research about that. I found Norway to be a fascinating country after watching a Norwegian limited drama series on Netflix several years back. I wish the series was still available. It was really good.
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(07-22-2024, 10:04 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:
(07-22-2024, 02:50 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I worked with a lot of Norwegians when I was a government contractor.  Their system is very different from ours.  It's pretty much a "normal job" to them (they can quit at any time or be fired for any number of reasons).  I'm not sure how their "army" works since I dealt with aircrews (pilots, flight engineers, sensor operators, etc.), but I remember one pilot instructor in particular that told me that he was "quitting" to take on a new job of the equivalent of our Secret Service.  I asked him if he needed to finish his term (as in enlistment contract) and he told me that they don't have contracts.

Interesting. I may have to do some research about that. I found Norway to be a fascinating country after watching a Norwegian limited drama series on Netflix several years back. I wish the series was still available. It was really good.

I have a few online gaming friends from Norway. They are really not going the electric car way there. They are going the Hydrogen fuel cell route. Personally, this appears to me to be a better way than our countries electric battery route,
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New reporting indicates Trump campaign second guessing Vance as VP pick.
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(07-23-2024, 04:03 AM)Jag88 Wrote: New reporting indicates Trump campaign second guessing Vance as VP pick.

Link?
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(07-23-2024, 05:11 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 04:03 AM)Jag88 Wrote: New reporting indicates Trump campaign second guessing Vance as VP pick.

Link?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-sud...19793.html




https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-bide...tion-2024/
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(07-23-2024, 07:11 AM)Jag88 Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 05:11 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Link?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-sud...19793.html




https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-bide...tion-2024/

Lol, yahoo sourcing the Atlantiv and Polirico. All three are Anti-Trump sites just wish posting. Might as well source Marty, Hurricane, and Mikesez.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(This post was last modified: 07-23-2024, 08:03 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 5 times in total.)

(07-23-2024, 07:11 AM)Jag88 Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 05:11 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Link?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-sud...19793.html

https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-bide...tion-2024/


"Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake"

That's the title of the Yahoo article, and it's followed by absolutely no evidence that Trump actually thinks picking JD Vance was a mistake.  The Politico Atlantic article has some interesting ideas, though.  

It is very probably true that Biden's age and mental issues were obscuring Trump's issues with the "insurrection" and his attempts to steal the election.  Biden was the issue.  Remove Biden, and Trump becomes the issue again.  

This is from the Politico article:  

Truth is, if Harris is successful in getting the nod from the Democratic Party, much of the subsequent election campaign is likely to domestically focus on abortion and women’s rights. Trump already has a problem with women voters — polls have consistently shown that the proportion of women planning to vote for him this November is smaller than those who did in 2020. And Vance has nothing to offer Trump on this score — quite the reverse, he risks compounding his boss’s problem.


Presumably, Trump chose Vance as his VP candidate largely to fire up the MAGA base and boost the Republican ticket in Rust Belt states. But that was a choice made when Biden was still heading the Democratic ticket. Now that he’s not, Vance may well become a liability.

Vance’s strict anti-abortion positions of the past, and a string of highly contentious statements he’s made about divorce, implying that women trapped in abusive marriages should remain married for the sake of the kids, aren’t likely to be forgotten. In 2021, he suggested ending marriages that were “maybe even violent” as selfish.


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Harris is a worse candidate than Biden was, and the drama of them getting rid of her next month will override any aingst about Trump. They have no.candidate, only pretenders to the crown.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(This post was last modified: 07-23-2024, 08:13 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 2 times in total.)

(07-23-2024, 08:02 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Harris is a worse candidate than Biden was, and the drama of them getting rid of her next month will override any aingst about Trump. They have no.candidate, only pretenders to the crown.

To you she is worse than Biden, but you have to put yourself in the mind of the average voter.  On the one hand, you see a snarling old man who anger-tweets all night, has ended Roe v. Wade, and been sued for abuse by multiple women.  On the other hand, here is this smiling, rather pleasant, much younger, woman who will try to restore a woman's right to choose.   

Women's vote.  Check.
Black vote.  Check.
Pro-choice vote.  Check.
Much nicer seeming person.  Check.
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People that would put a moron in office. Check.
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(This post was last modified: 07-23-2024, 09:04 AM by WingerDinger. Edited 2 times in total.)

lololololol

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1815...SZoIw&s=19

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(07-23-2024, 08:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 08:02 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Harris is a worse candidate than Biden was, and the drama of them getting rid of her next month will override any aingst about Trump. They have no candidate, only pretenders to the crown.

To you she is worse than Biden, but you have to put yourself in the mind of the average voter.  On the one hand, you see a snarling old man who anger-tweets all night, has ended Roe v. Wade, and been sued for abuse by multiple women.  On the other hand, here is this smiling, rather pleasant, much younger, woman who will try to restore a woman's right to choose.   

Women's vote.  Check.
Black vote.  Check.
Pro-choice vote.  Check.
Much nicer seeming person.  Check.

I don't want the brain damage that kind of blunt trauma would cause. And if you see Harris that way then you've been fooled by the media again. And so soon after the Biden Lie got exposed? Shameful.

(07-23-2024, 09:02 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: lololololol

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815111716...SZoIw&s=19

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More proof the knives are out for her. Soros steps in on her right after he marries Hillary's girlfriend out of the blue? Another interesting coincidence in all this. What's that, 12th or 13th now?
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(07-23-2024, 07:11 AM)Jag88 Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 05:11 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Link?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-sud...19793.html




https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-bide...tion-2024/

Left wing opinion pieces?  So let's rewind, Trump predicted Joe would be out of the race and Kamala would take his place a month ago and now according to the article the sole reason he chose Vance was because Joe was on the ticket and he now has buyer's remorse about it after his prediction came true?  

Vance could very well wind up being a bad decision, but the very easy to see evidence should show you Trump isn't thinking that right now.
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(07-23-2024, 09:02 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: lololololol

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815111716...SZoIw&s=19

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When Soros! gives politicians money they become puppets.
When Elon Musk gives politicians money it is because they already have the best interests of the entire nation at heart.  Praise be unto his Muskiness.

(07-23-2024, 10:51 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 07:11 AM)Jag88 Wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-sud...19793.html




https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-bide...tion-2024/

Left wing opinion pieces?  So let's rewind, Trump predicted Joe would be out of the race and Kamala would take his place a month ago and now according to the article the sole reason he chose Vance was because Joe was on the ticket and he now has buyer's remorse about it after his prediction came true?  

Vance could very well wind up being a bad decision, but the very easy to see evidence should show you Trump isn't thinking that right now.

Correct.
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(07-23-2024, 08:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 08:02 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Harris is a worse candidate than Biden was, and the drama of them getting rid of her next month will override any aingst about Trump. They have no.candidate, only pretenders to the crown.

To you she is worse than Biden, but you have to put yourself in the mind of the average voter.  On the one hand, you see a snarling old man who anger-tweets all night, has ended Roe v. Wade, and been sued for abuse by multiple women.  On the other hand, here is this smiling, rather pleasant, much younger, woman who will try to restore a woman's right to choose.   

Women's vote.  Check.
Black vote (except for the DEI's on FOX News).  Check.
Pro-choice vote.  Check.
Much nicer seeming person.  Check.

clarification
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(07-23-2024, 10:51 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 07:11 AM)Jag88 Wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-sud...19793.html




https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-bide...tion-2024/

Left wing opinion pieces?  So let's rewind, Trump predicted Joe would be out of the race and Kamala would take his place a month ago and now according to the article the sole reason he chose Vance was because Joe was on the ticket and he now has buyer's remorse about it after his prediction came true?  

Vance could very well wind up being a bad decision, but the very easy to see evidence should show you Trump isn't thinking that right now.

If Trump predicted Joe would be out of the race, why is he now complaining about Joe leaving the race?
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(07-23-2024, 11:53 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 10:51 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Left wing opinion pieces?  So let's rewind, Trump predicted Joe would be out of the race and Kamala would take his place a month ago and now according to the article the sole reason he chose Vance was because Joe was on the ticket and he now has buyer's remorse about it after his prediction came true?  

Vance could very well wind up being a bad decision, but the very easy to see evidence should show you Trump isn't thinking that right now.

If Trump predicted Joe would be out of the race, why is he now complaining about Joe leaving the race?


Bingo.
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(07-23-2024, 11:53 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-23-2024, 10:51 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Left wing opinion pieces?  So let's rewind, Trump predicted Joe would be out of the race and Kamala would take his place a month ago and now according to the article the sole reason he chose Vance was because Joe was on the ticket and he now has buyer's remorse about it after his prediction came true?  

Vance could very well wind up being a bad decision, but the very easy to see evidence should show you Trump isn't thinking that right now.

If Trump predicted Joe would be out of the race, why is he now complaining about Joe leaving the race?

Like I said in another post, he and other republicans are just likely attempting to pour political gasoline on the Dem dumpster fire to stir up contempt for Harris and Dems from undecideds and people previously committed to voting Biden.  Also, we've been dealing with a lack of transparency regarding Biden and his mental state for some time and additionally so in this recent process of him stepping down.  Perhaps because the truth might be embarrassing or leave them with few if any options? The truth being out could even be a national security threat, but if this is true this is an indictment on Kamala.  It's the reason you pick a qualified individual with a strong, tough mind for VP being just a heart beat away from the seat. 

The video from a month ago with Trump on the golf course is widely available out there.  The prediction is not in question.  Why would he predict it and then make a VP selection and then supposedly second guess his VP pick and complain about the Dems when his prediction came to pass?  We're in an election season less than 100 days out.  Complaining about the other guy or team is carte du jour.  This isn't rocket science.  You can draw informed, well reasoned conclusions such as the above from the facts at hand here.  Saying he's second guessing his pick while what he predicted was going to happen happened isn't well reasoned.
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