Quote:Yeah, Rubio is probably the best of the electables. That explains why Trump, Carson, and Fiorina are getting all the media attention.
Should Rubio win and take one or two of the other Senators with him to the White House, what do you think would be the impact in Congress? Who would replace a Cruz, Paul, or Rubio himself if they depart?
Marco Rubio mentioned that he's not seeking re-election as a U.S. Senator from Florida. Like I expressed in another thread in the summer, I'm hoping that former Congressman Lt. Col. Allen West is the next Senator from Florida ( or gets a cabinet post in the next Presidential Administration. ).
Quote:I was thinking that same thing but sadly (because i really liked the guy) he started polling below 1% so the better question is WHERE DID THEY GO.
Which of those candidates is the one that you like?
Of those candidates, Rick Santorum and Bobby Jindal are in my top 5 overall preferences in the race. Only behind Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee.
In all seriousness i have no idea. I think they all have great qualities and could make a case for just about anyone on the main stage. I think in the end Rubio might be in the best position to be the most electable tea party/outsider candidate as the process goes forward.
I updated my OP to reflect the changes.
Quote: A major question moving forward is what direction ( s ) do most of Scott Walker's supporters go in? Both in terms of poll numbers and financial support? It's anyone's guess.
A very good question. My guess is towards Marco Rubio (but then again, I am biased).
Quote:I suspect Rubio will take most of them. That's partially based upon Walker's social policy, partially just a guess based upon those two being the "middle of the road" Republicans. Right of Bush and Kasich, left of Cruz and Carson.
There is one scary prospect: what if they gravitate towards Trump?
I doubt that you are going to see many gravitate towards Trump. Once this election starts getting "more serious" I believe that you will see Trump's numbers free fall. He's treating this process as his own personal reality show, and offers nothing regarding policy. It's all about insults and mocking. He appeals to some fringe people as well as the "low information voter" crowd. All he talks about is his standings in the polls. That shtick is going to get old very quick.
Quote:Well I had a Tsingtao beer at the China pavilion in Epcot on Sunday so I'm surely more relevant somehow.
As long as it wasn't a sour
Quote:A very good question. My guess is towards Marco Rubio (but then again, I am biased).
I doubt that you are going to see many gravitate towards Trump. Once this election starts getting "more serious" I believe that you will see Trump's numbers free fall. He's treating this process as his own personal reality show, and offers nothing regarding policy. It's all about insults and mocking. He appeals to some fringe people as well as the "low information voter" crowd. All he talks about is his standings in the polls. That shtick is going to get old very quick.
I certainly hope you are correct regarding Donald Trump not benefiting much from Scott Walker's supporters. My concern though is despite what you mentioned, many people will vote for Trump because he's an outside candidate. They are understandably upset with both major parties. But in most cases, they are acting with just emotion, not concrete evidence about Trump's history.
Quote:In all seriousness i have no idea. I think they all have great qualities and could make a case for just about anyone on the main stage. I think in the end Rubio might be in the best position to be the most electable tea party/outsider candidate as the process goes forward.
In looking at the Republican Race, I think of all of the candidates, Marco Rubio has the best chance of being on the Ticket when the 2016 Republican Convention is over. If Rubio doesn't win the nomination, he could easily have major appeal as the VP selection depending on who wins the nomination.
Quote: I certainly hope you are correct regarding Donald Trump not benefiting much from Scott Walker's supporters. My concern though is despite what you mentioned, many people will vote for Trump because he's an outside candidate. They are understandably upset with both major parties. But in most cases, they are acting with just emotion, not concrete evidence about Trump's history.
Regarding the part in bold, that is precisely a very big part of why Obama won the first time. He wasn't an "establishment" politician, was young and could speak very well. The other big thing that he had going for him was his use of current (then) technology. Social media was a huge way for him to garner the "young vote", and the "young vote" looked at him against John McCain. Which one was "cooler"? Which one was "more hip"? They had a chance to "change history" and elect a black man to the Presidency. That's all these young kids were looking at. It was all about emotion and they were looking at it like another "American Idol" kind of vote. It was not about policy at all, it was more about popularity.
I personally see many of those young kids, now getting to be adults with families and careers of their own regretting that decision, my own daughter included.
Quote:As long as it wasn't a sour
Or Wisconsin dairy products, and like Scott Walker who soured in the summer heat.
Then asks other candidates to follow his " lead" and get out of the race.
This guy is certainly full of himself. Least favorite of candidates, so I'm glad to see him take his cheese curds and
" lead " his campaign into quitsville.
Quote:Regarding the part in bold, that is precisely a very big part of why Obama won the first time. He wasn't an "establishment" politician, was young and could speak very well. The other big thing that he had going for him was his use of current (then) technology. Social media was a huge way for him to garner the "young vote", and the "young vote" looked at him against John McCain. Which one was "cooler"? Which one was "more hip"? They had a chance to "change history" and elect a black man to the Presidency. That's all these young kids were looking at. It was all about emotion and they were looking at it like another "American Idol" kind of vote. It was not about policy at all, it was more about popularity.
I personally see many of those young kids, now getting to be adults with families and careers of their own regretting that decision, my own daughter included.
There are plenty of young people backing Bernie. I'm sure it's not a cooler or more hip factor.
But it doesn't matter... There isn't one candidate who falls into that category. Unless the GOP gets out of their circular firing squad with Trump in the middle, they will self destruct. The only saving grace is that the Dems don't have a viable candidate either.
Quote:There are plenty of young people backing Bernie. I'm sure it's not a cooler or more hip factor.
But it doesn't matter... There isn't one candidate who falls into that category. Unless the GOP gets out of their circular firing squad with Trump in the middle, they will self destruct. The only saving grace is that the Dems don't have a viable candidate either.
It's not cool or hip, it's that they've never learned or been taught about the evils of what he's preaching.
Or basic economics or history for that matter.
I would vote for Bernie in a heartbeat.
Wouldnt have guessed that one
Quote:It's not cool or hip, it's that they've never learned or been taught about the evils of what he's preaching.
"Evils", eh?
10'S Of millions, depending on how you classify national socialism (Nazi's) then the vast majority of casualties in the 20th century warfare were in the pursuit of defeating socialist and communist dictators, not to mention the genocide and radical killing of their own populations to maintain control.
LOL, Trump is falling in the polls, so what does he do? Try to
attack Marco Rubio and tweets that he's going to "boycott"
FOX News.
First of all, the attacks on Rubio are a re-hash of subjects that Marco Rubio has already addressed on a national stage.
Second, Trump got mad because he didn't get the "free publicity" after being a guest on the O'Reilly Factor show was cancelled for tomorrow. He can "boycott" all he wants, but he's pretty foolish. Any candidate that is serious would get any "free" air time that they can on the number one rated news shows. Like them or not, FOX News opinion shows are watched by far more people than any other network.
Quote:10'S Of millions, depending on how you classify national socialism (Nazi's) then the vast majority of casualties in the 20th century warfare were in the pursuit of defeating socialist and communist dictators, not to mention the genocide and radical killing of their own populations to maintain control.
What is with this new talking point about nazis being socialists therefore socialists are literally hitler? I mean I have seen some stupid stuff but come on man
Quote:Regarding the part in bold, that is precisely a very big part of why Obama won the first time. He wasn't an "establishment" politician, was young and could speak very well. The other big thing that he had going for him was his use of current (then) technology. Social media was a huge way for him to garner the "young vote", and the "young vote" looked at him against John McCain. Which one was "cooler"? Which one was "more hip"? They had a chance to "change history" and elect a black man to the Presidency. That's all these young kids were looking at. It was all about emotion and they were looking at it like another "American Idol" kind of vote. It was not about policy at all, it was more about popularity.
I personally see many of those young kids, now getting to be adults with families and careers of their own regretting that decision, my own daughter included.
Just to add to what you said, the 2008 election was ' won' by Obama in very large part because the election campaign was run mainly on Obama's terms, not John McCain's. The latter, along with Mitt Romney 4 years later, ran the worst general election Presidential campaigns that I'm aware of. Certainly since the 1972 election, which I recall of from my youth.