California's drought is very concerning
I know it's all a big fat lie, but...
http://www.cato.org/blog/you-ought-have-...g-downward
"This basically eliminates the possibly of catastrophic climate change—that is, climate change that proceeds at a rate that exceeds our ability to keep up."
Hysterically funny insults about the researcher's credibility, motivations, and financers soon to follow.
Quote:I know it's all a big fat lie, but...
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.cato.org/blog/you-ought-have-look-climate-sensitivity-environmental-worries-are-trending-downward'>http://www.cato.org/blog/you-ought-have-look-climate-sensitivity-environmental-worries-are-trending-downward</a>
"This basically eliminates the possibly of catastrophic climate change—that is, climate change that proceeds at a rate that exceeds our ability to keep up."
Hysterically funny insults about the researcher's credibility, motivations, and financers soon to follow.
Ok, so given that you linked this article because you believe in it's veracity, that must mean you agree than humans and our activities are affecting the climate.
The article speaks directly to the fact that aerosols have an affect that is opposite of green house gasses.
At least we can now all admit that humans are affecting the climate.
Quote:Ok, so given that you linked this article because you believe in it's veracity, that must mean you agree than humans and our activities are affecting the climate.
The article speaks directly to the fact that aerosols have an affect that is opposite of green house gasses.
At least we can now all admit that humans are affecting the climate.
Only if you'll admit that they were wrong in their assumptions about what it means and the AGCC hysteria is incorrect. Deal?
More importantly, you should note that not all aerosols are man-made. But that doesn't fit the narrative either.
Quote:I know it's all a big fat lie, but...
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.cato.org/blog/you-ought-have-look-climate-sensitivity-environmental-worries-are-trending-downward'>http://www.cato.org/blog/you-ought-have-look-climate-sensitivity-environmental-worries-are-trending-downward</a>
"This basically eliminates the possibly of catastrophic climate change—that is, climate change that proceeds at a rate that exceeds our ability to keep up."
Hysterically funny insults about the researcher's credibility, motivations, and financers soon to follow.
If you get your climate science news from color commentary editorials from libertarian think tanks funded by the Koch Brothers, what you get is indeed a big, fat lie.
What do you purport to have gleamed from that editorial anyways? Please explain what you think you learned.
Quote:If you get your climate science news from color commentary editorials from libertarian think tanks funded by the Koch Brothers, what you get is indeed a big, fat lie.
What do you purport to have gleamed from that editorial anyways? Please explain what you think you learned.
And right on que you appear. :teehee:
Maybe you should research and read the report at the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology where the pivotal study was done before you start throwing around your reflexive "anything I don't agree is the big meanie Koch Brothers' lies" responses.
Quote:And right on que you appear. :teehee:
Maybe you should research and read the report at the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology where the pivotal study was done before you start throwing around your reflexive "anything I don't agree is the big meanie Koch Brothers' lies" responses.
You two, are at a minimum, highly entertaining.
Quote:Only if you'll admit that they were wrong in their assumptions about what it means and the AGCC hysteria is incorrect. Deal?
More importantly, you should note that not all aerosols are man-made. But that doesn't fit the narrative either.
I admit NOTHING!! :-)
The article speaks specifically about anthropomorphic, ie man made, aerosols affecting climate...
Quote:I admit NOTHING!! :-)
The article speaks specifically about anthropomorphic, ie man made, aerosols affecting climate...
The entire premise of the commentary--that aerosols haven't dampened the effect of global warming as much as we thought, which means that climate change wasn't warming the earth as much as attributed--is predicated on the premises that global warming is indeed happening and that man is affecting the climate patterns.
So he has at least gone from 'this is not happening' to 'it's happening but it's not so bad' which is progress.
Quote:Ah, that bastion of science, Yahoo News.
Here is the sea level vs. time for Mayport, NOAA's closest gauge to St. Augustine. There is no difference in the rate of sea level rise before and after WW2, the approximate start of human addition of CO2 to the atmosphere.
http://co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltr...id=8720218
No no no, we must abandon St Augustine immediately before the tidal waves wash the whole city out to sea.
Quote:Ah, that bastion of science, Yahoo News.
Here is the sea level vs. time for Mayport, NOAA's closest gauge to St. Augustine. There is no difference in the rate of sea level rise before and after WW2, the approximate start of human addition of CO2 to the atmosphere.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8720218'>http://co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8720218</a>
I like how you will use NOAA's numbers when you purport they support your claims, but will claim conspiracy when the same people's numbers prove climate change.
Anyhoo, I'm guessing you didn't read the article. It's quite good, I suggest you do.
Also, it's article from the Associated Press, I imagine you've heard of them. Thank God for folks like Yahoo! News--you know Fox News ain't going to host that article.
Quote:No no no, we must abandon St Augustine immediately before the tidal waves wash the whole city out to sea.
I wouldn't worry about tidal waves.
"Insurance giant Swiss Re has estimated that the economy in southeast Florida could sustain $33 billion in damage from rising seas and other climate-related damage in 2030, according to the Miami-Dade Sea Level Rise Task Force."
From the article^^
15 yrs from now. 33 billion. One community. Do the math, friend, and you will see why Scott rather bury his head in the sand.
Quote:I like how you will use NOAA's numbers when you purport they support your claims, but will claim conspiracy when the same people's numbers prove climate change.
Anyhoo, I'm guessing you didn't read the article. It's quite good, I suggest you do.
Also, it's article from the Associated Press, I imagine you've heard of them. Thank God for folks like Yahoo! News--you know Fox News ain't going to host that article.
First off, I have no problem using the Warmists' own numbers to show flaws in their arguments. If anything, that means the problem could be even less than the numbers show. NOAA adjusts temperature measurements. As far as I know they haven't started adjusting tide gauge measurements yet.
I read the article. A 500 year old city on an ocean that has been rising for most of those 500 years is definitely in trouble.
It has NOTHING to do with CO2. Eventually they are going to have to move things to ground that is 10 inches higher to keep the status quo for an additional 100 years (2.5 mm per yer = 2.5 cm per decade = 1 inch per decade). 10 whole inches, why they might as well just abandon the city now.
The AP is very far left of center. So is Yahoo News.
Quote:Did you see the word 'could'? Do you know what that word means?
The Jags 'could' win the Superbowl this year.
Depends what your definition of 'is' is.