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Quote:Mike Tomin has a super bowl ring. If Gus ever brings a Lombardi trophy to Jax he can coach in a cheerleaders outfit for all I care.

 

Mike Tomlin has a Superbowl Ring because of Bill Cowher's football team and the roster he left intact before he retired. Now that those players are aging and losing the abilities they once had when they were younger and more explosive, you're beginning to see Mike Tomlin for exactly who he is. An overrated headcoach with a big mouth and inflated ego. That's about it. Once Rothelisberger retires it's all downhill for that franchise for a few years. Teams like Cleveland, Baltimore, and Cincinnatti are already getting ahead of them.

So, let's see you make crème brulee with some poop and a little more poop. What do expect with a completely gutted and young roster? And thank you and TMD for pointing out that I put Bradley as a rookie. Gezus, sorry, Sophomore........... He's still early in his career. Players can turn into stars early in their career more easily than coaches and GMs. Why? Because they have to rely on the entire staff. You people are just so tired of the losing, that you miss the big picture. Impatience will not equal a turn around of our franchise. If the scene looks the same after 3-4 years, then maybe. But after year and half with our before roster and until now, expecting a great season is buffoonery.


GO JAGS!!

Quote:I read the first and the last post. I can't even imagine what was in between.

I made the mistake of reading the in-between and the only thing I brought away from it was a headache.

 

This thread tho.

Bradley is doing great. We hired a rookie to learn with our rookies. Bradley is being groomed to be our head coach for a long long time... He's learning along with everyone else... He still doesn't have the talent but were getting better and developing our core... Marks will man the line for a long time...

if I BEAT ANY TEAM when half of my offense are rookies and my ST is terrible. I would be pretty happy too. I don't have a problem with happy. There are people who like happy. It was a god awful team when he got it. One of his FIRST round draft picks can't get it together and the organization as a whole is new. I don't think he is doing a great job, but as I tell my boy. Keep a good attitude and keep trying as hard as you can, everything else will work out. We've been crappy for a long time, chill and see if it comes together.

Quote:Why does Bradley act like he won the Super Bowl in his post-game speech?

 

I've never seen Carroll, Harbaugh, Coughlin, McCarthy, Payton, Tomlin, Dungy, Cowher, Belichick, Jimbo Fisher, Saban, etc. act like that.

 

This team needs a head coach, not a cheerleader.  He doesn't exhibit the ability to lead.  The team is 1-6, sure, enjoy your first win, but not like you just hoisted the Lombardi.

 

Man the Jags are in trouble.

 

I guess you Don't remember when Harbaugh slapped Schwartz, saw any of the Super Bowl last year, Sean Peyton getting butt hurt after losing, mike Tomlin stopping Jones KR, Belicheat, Jimbo and Saban are only good when they don't pay their players. I'd take Bradley over a Manningless Dungy team too. Although I don't love 1-6 I still am happy that our players can still be pumped. Maybe you should just root for another squad, but when this one turns it around don"t come back.

Quote:Why does Bradley act like he won the Super Bowl in his post-game speech?

 

I've never seen Carroll, Harbaugh, Coughlin, McCarthy, Payton, Tomlin, Dungy, Cowher, Belichick, Jimbo Fisher, Saban, etc. act like that.

 

This team needs a head coach, not a cheerleader.  He doesn't exhibit the ability to lead.  The team is 1-6, sure, enjoy your first win, but not like you just hoisted the Lombardi.

 

Man the Jags are in trouble.

 

Why do you think that is a bad thing? All of the coaches you named won national championships, so they are used to winning and don't feel like they won the lottery. Gus Bradley is used to losing. We just ended a nine-game losing streak. It was the first win ever for eight players - Luke Joeckel and most of our rookies. Big difference.

 

If Gus Bradley did not have the ability to lead, we would have been 0-16 last year and would be 0-7 now.

My God you people will complain about anything. Literally anything. I bet if he had his shoes untied you would strike him down in his tracks for being "unprofessional" and "careless". Grow up. Its their first win this season and the players DESERVED to have fun with it, so he let them. He was legitimately excited to see them succeed. The players backed it up by saying they finally just stayed true to the COACHES (aka Bradley's) message. They all believed they could do it and played well because they trusted their coach and their ability. Sure it took a while, but it happened. 

 

Trying to act like Bradley is some overly nice pushover is hilarious. He doesnt "scream head coach" because  you guys are apparently used to seeing boring, intense coaches who would just "meh" at a 24-6 victory against a 3-2 team at 0-6. But ok, go ahead and get mad at Gus. I hope your irrationality hits you hard this season because hes gonna be back next year. Maybe when you see success and stop trying to destroy every coaching staff this team has had you will figure out that good players actually make the coaches look good and not the other way around. Its so annoying to come here especially after a win and see this. 

Quote:I guarantee I'd love for the Jags to be awesome like the rest of us.  However, leadership is obvious and I see too many indicators from Bradley showing he lacks it.

 

Name specific examples that actually make sense. If you can't, it is not obvious at all.

 

Quote:The weakness of the roster is a fair point but you've got to have a legitimate HC to lead the team for when they do build the roster.

 

I don't trust at all that he could prepare a team for the playoffs much less the Super Bowl.  He wanted them to enjoy the win yesterday like it was the Super Bowl.  Teams will fail if they live on extreme emotional highs and lows.  Why do you think all championship coaches are so level headed?

 

Show me one team that fails by celebrating a win. I bet you can't. Championship coaches are not winners because of mundane postgame speeches.

 

Quote:He's 23 games into his head coaching career...that's defined as a rookie?

 

Maybe we can renew his contract and pay him twice as much while he figures out how to use timeouts.

 

Obviously you did not watch the press conference video where he blamed himself for the bad challenges and said he regrets challenging two plays.

 

Like all of the second-year players, Bradley is paid by his first contract and learning on the job through experience.

 

Quote:The team is more often than not simply not prepared and seem caught off guard by what other teams bring to the field.

 

That is in the past. We are obviously getting better each week and were totally prepared the last three weeks.

 

Quote:The man is a leader based on...?

 

Being a player's coach makes him a leader by itself. His postgame locker room behavior Sunday is proof he can lead the team. So is improvement on the field. Why does anybody think he is not a leader?

Where is the facepalm graphic?

Quote:Mike Tomlin has a Superbowl Ring because of Bill Cowher's football team and the roster he left intact before he retired. Now that those players are aging and losing the abilities they once had when they were younger and more explosive, you're beginning to see Mike Tomlin for exactly who he is. An overrated headcoach with a big mouth and inflated ego. That's about it. Once Rothelisberger retires it's all downhill for that franchise for a few years. Teams like Cleveland, Baltimore, and Cincinnatti are already getting ahead of them.

 

Exactly my point!  I didn't realize I had to spell it out in this much depth.

 

The team won, and it was a great win.  It very well could be that we are witnessing a key turning point in the progress of our very young players and that's an exciting thing.

 

But if there are areas of concern that need to be addressed, the philosophy of the franchise needs to be one.  In today's NFL you need a coaching staff that knows how to exploit the weaknesses of the opponents and how to play to the best strengths of our own team.

 

As an example, it took 7 weeks to get Denard the starting nod.  7 weeks.  Most here were begging to see more of Shoelace as the featured RB.  It took Fish 7 weeks.  Where was Bradly to maybe suggest trying something new?

Yeah, he gave an excited speech and told the team to enjoy the win for 24 hours.  

 

That proves he can't coach and should be fired.

 

 

Idiots.

I don't get all the hate with Gus. Put Tony Dungy in as HC and this team is still a little under .500. Caldwell has done an excellent job of finding talent. I suspect the O-line issue to be fixed next off season. I'm all for bringing in Todd Gurley. The players love Gus Bradley. They feed off his energy. You want to replace him with who Rex Ryan[joking]. I remember all the hate people gave Pete Carroll when he first started coaching SEA. Can't expect a coach to do too much with a so so talented roster. Jacksonville finally found a starting QB. Now they have to put the pawns, knights, and bishops into place.

 

Gene Smith and Jack Del Rio held this team back. They got a huge win over Pittsburgh in 07 and the team has done nothing since. It's going to take a few years, but the Jaguars are on the right track.

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This thread tho.

 

 

The threads that people start are so amusing. Ive never ever seen other fanbases pick aty evry little thing. Its absolutely amazing. Its like a bunch of high school kids with raging hormones.

Quote:Yeah, he gave an excited speech and told the team to enjoy the win for 24 hours.  

 

That proves he can't coach and should be fired.

 

 

Idiots.

 

Exactly.

If you want to see the difference between a head coach that gets it, and Bradley, go watch the replay of Bill O Brien's press conference last night. How refreshing it was to see a head coach tell it like it is. Not sugar coat everything and be all nicey nice/ positive spin [BLEEP]. 

 

The Texans are in good hands and will undoubtably get more success under the O Brien regime than we will get under the Gus "country club" Bradley regime. 

Quote:Where is the facepalm graphic?

 

GIFSoup

Quote:If you want to see the difference between a head coach that gets it, and Bradley, go watch the replay of Bill O Brien's press conference last night. How refreshing it was to see a head coach tell it like it is. Not sugar coat everything and be all nicey nice/ positive spin [BAD WORD REMOVED]. 

 

The Texans are in good hands and will undoubtably get more success under the O Brien regime than we will get under the Gus "country club" Bradley regime. 

 

TMD. You know you my boy on the MB. I agree with 87% of the stuff you say. But I cant agree with this one.

 

You cant make a HC coach like another HC. Each HC is different. Hell we as people are all different. There is no cookie cut way of how a HC is supposed to act. Let this thing play out all of the way before we judge a position that honestly none of us has every held. IJS

There may be lots of things to criticize Bradley for, but being excited about the win just might be the dumbest. 

 

Next we should criticize his shaved head, or his goatee because, seriously, it's not becoming of a head coach to look like that.  And how dare his name be Gus!  Has a super bowl winning coach ever been named Gus?  Maybe we should change his name to Bill.