Quote:I feel that the Eagles are a lot like how the bengals were a few years ago, explosive offense but weak defense. If Blake Bortles was starting this game with a strong healthy Oline I think the Jaguars would easily win this game but he isnt so itll be close if not a loss on the road.
The problem with the Eagles defense is sorta created by their explosive offense. The Eagles often score so fast with that Kelly offense, that the defense is on the field a lot. I think it will be tough for a Chip Kelly coached team to have a defense that keeps opponents from scoring less than 300-350 as season totals at this level of football. Last season they gave up over 370, IIRC. Most 10 win teams don't give up point totals that high.
I think the Jags will cover although may be tough to win this one on the road. Gotta laugh at all the Henne-hate, must be his Madden ranking.
Quote:Gotta laugh at all the Henne-hate, must be his Madden ranking.
Have you ever watched him play?
I don't expect the Jags to win, but I do think they're going to make more of a game of this than many here believe.
I can see the defense holding firm until the 4th quarter but then they might start to get a bit weary and the Eagles will take advantage of this and put the game to bed. I think we'll end up losing respectably and this will the case for many of the games this season when we lose in my opinion. No thrashings like last season.
1 thing I'd like to see is Henne and the rest of the offense working as hard as they can to get as many 1st downs as possible. I don't want the defense on the field for 3 hours after 9 million 3 and outs.
Quote:Have you ever watched him play?
Yeah, he's pretty average at best. But trust me, he's not the difference between 12-4 and 2-14 like the haters want you to believe.
Quote:Yeah, he's pretty average at best. But trust me, he's not the difference between 12-4 and 2-14 like the haters want you to believe.
Average at best is putting it nicely. He's average at best as backups go, as starters go he's bottom 10% of the league.
Obviously he's not dragging a 12-4 roster down because this team doesn't have that level of roster strength at this point, but he's doing his part in the failings that are headed our way.
Quote:Yeah, he's pretty average at best. But trust me, he's not the difference between 12-4 and 2-14 like the haters want you to believe.
One of Henne's main problems is he makes it much easier for defenses to go up against our offense since he really only can effectively utilize the first 10 yards in front of him. A guy like Bortles makes the Jags so much more difficult to defend since he is willing and able to attack the whole field.
Quote:Average at best is putting it nicely. He's average at best as backups go, as starters go he's bottom 10% of the league.
Obviously he's not dragging a 12-4 roster down because this team doesn't have that level of roster strength at this point, but he's doing his part in the failings that are headed our way.
And this is what I mean when I talk about the hyperbole on the QB making me laugh. There are actually gradiations between All Pro and "worst ever" although it's not recognized.
Anyway, Henne may not be good enough to single handedly propel this roster over the Eagles on Sunday but he probably won't be the reason we lose. If we lose, I suspect it will be because the D can't stop the Eagles running game.
Quote:And this is what I mean when I talk about the hyperbole on the QB making me laugh. There are actually gradiations between All Pro and "worst ever" although it's not recognized.
Anyway, Henne may not be good enough to single handedly propel this roster over the Eagles on Sunday but he probably won't be the reason we lose. If we lose, I suspect it will be because the D can't stop the Eagles running game.
It's posts like yours that leave me facepalming. It's not like I'm just calling him bottom 10% of the league, the stats back it up. He's a bad starter. He's not Geno Smith bad, but he's definitely not a guy that any team would be happy with.
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Anyway, Henne may not be good enough to single handedly propel this roster over the Eagles on Sunday but he probably won't be the reason we lose. If we lose, I suspect it will be because the D can't stop the Eagles running game.
This defense gave up an 85 yard rushing TD to
Detroit....
Gold help us all vs McCoy and that OL.
Quote:It's posts like yours that leave me facepalming. It's not like I'm just calling him bottom 10% of the league, the stats back it up. He's a bad starter. He's not Geno Smith bad, but he's definitely not a guy that any team would be happy with.
There have been some extinuating circumstances in terms of his track record. Look, he's not an upper tier player no one questions that. My facepalm moments are directed at the posters who seem to think that if we could only replace Henne, we'd have a Superbowl contender and to them I say it's not that simple.
Quote:This defense gave up an 85 yard rushing TD to Detroit....
Gold help us all vs McCoy and that OL.
I know, it's why I don't really see the Jags winning on Sunday *although* I think the defense will show better than they did that game.
Quote:If the Jags cannot put up 30+ points they are almost certainly not winning this game.
I see the Eagles and I predict they won't even score 21.
Quote:There have been some extinuating circumstances in terms of his track record. Look, he's not an upper tier player no one questions that. My facepalm moments are directed at the posters who seem to think that if we could only replace Henne, we'd have a Superbowl contender and to them I say it's not that simple.
You're right about that, this still isn't a team that's ready to compete at that level, but the difference between a Henne and an elite QB starting on this team is probably 6 wins. If Henne can get this team to 6-10 an elite QB would get it to 12 wins.
Additionally with Henne in the game you know this team isn't going to come back in the 4th quarter of any games. He's more likely to throw a pick in the 4th than a TD.
However, if your point is simply that Henne matches the team then I'm not sure I'd agree with that, he's probably holding it back to some degree at this point.
Quote:This defense gave up an 85 yard rushing TD to Detroit....
Gold help us all vs McCoy and that OL.
To be completely fair one play shouldn't define anything.
The Jaguars first team defense has been pretty stout and outside of the game in Chicago, got pressure on the QB.
McCoy terrifies me but I'm not a believer in the Eagles offense yet. We'll see.
Our LB's are in trouble....They have yet to stop the midfield pass to the TE and slot receiver.
Eagles 38
Jaguars 13
Quote:Not sure if serious
I'm dead serious. Stop overrating the Eagles. They're the Colts of the NFC with a significantly worse defense and they're going up against what is basically an entirely new team from last year.
I'm not saying they won't win, but if you've paid attention to history you'd know the only thing close to as dangerous as facing the defending Super Bowl champs is facing a team completely unrecognizable from last year.
As a Philadelphia resident you should know this better than anyone, as the Eagles themselves have come out as rebuild underdogs on week 1 only to kick the crap out of their opponents and walk into the playoffs.
Quote:My facepalm moments are directed at the posters who seem to think that if we could only replace Henne, we'd have a Superbowl contender and to them I say it's not that simple.
Who is saying that?
The team would be considerably better with a better QB.