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Quote:Nope.


Well... Yeah.


I thought it was obvious that I was referring to this year being an exceptionally good year to have two first rounders.

This would be a good year to have 3 first rounders

Quote:This would be a good year to have 3 first rounders

 

I see where you're going with this.

Quote:Manziel is all about the show, and that's what today was. He put on a show, but it didn't really show me anything new, no pun intended. He's going into the NFL to entertain. Not so sure that's the right place for a Quarterback's head to be.

I know we will disagree on this, but I think you're misinterpreting "showy" for Manziel having what some call the "it factor".

 

I'm not sure if you were able to catch the live Jaguars broadcast before Manziel came out earlier today. But the guys were talking, and they were saying how Manziel was the only "rockstar" in this draft. And they were saying that in a good way. That there was just something about him that commands a crowd. They said they had both been to Bottles and Bridgewater's pro-days, but that it was diferent. When Manziel walks out he literally demands the attention of everyone in the room, even of all these major NFL head coaches. Not though because Johnny's waving his arms and saying hey look at me, but just because he's got "it". And that's hard to explain, but I think that can sometimes be misconstrued as 'showy'.

 

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BTW Deacon, and honestly, I just read your signature for the first time today. Honestly one of the greatest things I've ever read. Literally rolling on the floor laughing. I not only liked your post, I gave you 5-stars on your profile. Seriously well done sire. If I'm ever on any other message-boards, I might steal it, honestly.

Nope.  Running through drills going against a broomstick doesn't sway me just like going through it with underwear and no rush would sway me with somebody else.

 

I watched all of his videos.  That's what I want to see.

 

Gabbert was probably one of the best practicing QB's we've had.  But it didn't translate to the field.  I don't care what these guys do in underwear.  I look at the video of their games.

Quote:He was the best QB alive going into his Pro Day and he did everything to confirm it.  JFF is light years ahead of everyone else.

lol, I like you JFF4L. You're like me on steroid injections, and maybe two bags of coke. lol.

 

Nope. Still behind Teddy to me.

Quote:You seem upset about something.

Maybe he wants to dual ya?

Quote:There's no middle ground for Manziel, he'll either boom or bust.

I'd rather bust hard with the potential of hitting a home run VS taking a middling talent at QB and dwelling in QB purgatory for 4 or 5 years.



If there is one position to take the home run over a base hit its at QB.


But that will be Dave's call.

I wouldn't say Pro Day means nothing.  There was a lot of pressure.  People saying this was the most attended pro day ever and Johnny delivered.  I mean that counts for something.  

 

I'm not on the Johnny bandwagon, but can any of us say we wouldn't be pretty excited to see what he can do in a Jaguar uniform?

Quote:A players "pro-day" (or combine results for that matter) should never significantly sway your opinion unless you are simply flawed in your evaluation ability. That goes for any player. 

 

You'd have to be pretty much football [BLEEP] for it to impact your opinion either way. 

 

As the old adage goes....."Trust the tape". 

This coming from someone who downgrades Carr, because he shares his brothers last name? Where does that rank as far as ability to evaluate? Wouldnt that be  "football [BLEEP]" to let that impact your opinion?

Quote:I wouldn't say Pro Day means nothing.  There was a lot of pressure.  People saying this was the most attended pro day ever and Johnny delivered.  I mean that counts for something.  

 

I'm not on the Johnny bandwagon, but can any of us say we wouldn't be pretty excited to see what he can do in a Jaguar uniform?

I can say I wouldn't be pretty excited if we drafted him #3 overall. Now, if we were able to get him with our 2nd round pick, then I'd be excited to see him in a Jaguar uniform.

No, his pro day did not sway my draft choice preferences.  Two things did stand out to me.... 1. he's got a better arm than I thought he had, and 2. you can wear camouflage football pants to an NFL interview.  

Johnny Football is, by far, the most dynamic of the so called big three.

 

What was great about his Pro Day includes the following:

 

1. He did not foul up. He delivered the merchandise.

 

2. He threw like he was relishing the chance to showcase his ability. 

 

3. He was not tight.

 

4. He was NOT pretentious. 

 

5. His Pro Day was enormously helpful to pro scouts.

 

What was really good about his Pro Day includes the following:

 

1. We finally saw some of the real guy in the post-Pro Day interview with the NFL Network experts.

 

2. We learned what kind of man he is in the face of instantaneous criticism.

 

3 He separated himself as the best of the so called big three.

 

Manziel was what you expect of a guy reported to have spent time preparing for his Pro Day. That took lots of work in advance.

 

The critics here are wrong. The Pro Day means very much.

Quote:lol, I like you JFF4L. You're like me on steroid injections, and maybe two bags of coke. lol.

 

 

Anyone with an unbiased opinion can easily see that JFF is the best.  The kid has done everything to prove the haters and doubters wrong.  But you know, haters are gonna hate.

Quote:Johnny Football is, by far, the most dynamic of the so called big three.

 

What was great about his Pro Day includes the following:

 

1. He did not foul up. He delivered the merchandise.

 

2. He threw like he was relishing the chance to showcase his ability. 

 

3. He was not tight.

 

4. He was NOT pretentious. 

 

5. His Pro Day was enormously helpful to pro scouts.

 

What was really good about his Pro Day includes the following:

 

1. We finally saw some of the real guy in the post-Pro Day interview with the NFL Network experts.

 

2. We learned what kind of man he is in the face of instantaneous criticism.

 

3 He separated himself as the best of the so called big three.

 

Manziel was what you expect of a guy reported to have spent time preparing for his Pro Day. That took lots of work in advance.

 

The critics here are wrong. The Pro Day means very much.

 

You know what else is great about johnny Football's Pro day? JFF showed Bridgewater how to handle pressure. What a nice fellow that JFF is. 

Quote:Anyone with an unbiased opinion can easily see that JFF is the best.  The kid has done everything to prove the haters and doubters wrong.  But you know, haters are gonna hate.

very true, well said

Quote:Anyone with an unbiased opinion can easily see that JFF is the best.  The kid has done everything to prove the haters and doubters wrong.  But you know, haters are gonna hate.

Well then, I guess you better find your way on over to the Texans' board... Considering Manziel is the best ever, it's officially a lock he goes #1 to them and there's zero chance he's a Jag.

Quote:Well then, I guess you better find your way on over to the Texans' board... Considering Manziel is the best ever, it's officially a lock he goes #1 to them and there's zero chance he's a Jag.

 

Wrong! Look at Bill O'Brien's QB track record. Every QB he's coached and recruited has been the prototypical big QB. Bortles or Clowney will be #1. 

Quote:Wrong! Look at Bill O'Brien's QB track record. Every QB he's coached and recruited has been the prototypical big QB. Bortles or Clowney will be #1. 

Naw man, Manziel just proved he's the best ever... Bill O'Brien will be fired instantly if he passes on him.