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Quote:Reading not your strong suit?

 

What i said was no team has signed a top level FA AND THEN GONE ON TO WIN THE SB. And that statement is true.
 

The Cowboys did when they added Deion Sanders. 
Quote:I'm not uninformed. I'm just not taking their lip service/ rhetoric as literal as you are. I'm going by the factors, too, i.e. contract/ opportunity for bigger roles/ etc etc. Players "shmooze" the new fans/ employer all the time. I'm sure some of it is genuine and they do like Bradley, so lets not act as if I'm saying they don't....but we still have seen little to label Bradley the nickname suggested in the OP. 
 

Why does it bother you so much?
Quote:The Cowboys did when they added Deion Sanders. 
20 years ago? And thats when you found 1 example?

 

Guess that formula wins championships! I'm sorry... We definitely should have signed Revis to a 1 yr deal worth 13 mill.
Quote:20 years ago? And thats when you found 1 example?

 

Guess that formula wins championships! I'm sorry... We definitely should have signed Revis to a 1 yr deal worth 13 mill.
 

Just was the most prominent one I remember. 

 

Revis was a good deal for the Patriots. I don't care what any detractors of it, think. 
Quote:He was making 16 MIL per in his last contract.

 

A 1 year "show me" deal is far from ridiculous. Its a smart move. Revis had other suitors and most likely teams willing to pay multi year & more guaranteed money. Belichick "closed" the deal. 
revis closed the deal choosing the team closest to the superbowl, he is on his last years with a bum knee
Quote:I'm not uninformed. I'm just not taking their lip service/ rhetoric as literal as you are. I'm going by the factors, too, i.e. contract/ opportunity for bigger roles/ etc etc. Players "shmooze" the new fans/ employer all the time. I'm sure some of it is genuine and they do like Bradley, so lets not act as if I'm saying they don't....but we still have seen little to label Bradley the nickname suggested in the OP. 
 

It's amazing how many people just don't get this.

 

Has there ever been a free agent signing that didn't rave about every single thing to do with their new team?

 

"The coach has a vision that I share." "I like the direction this franchise is moving in." etc.
Quote:Name the last team that spent big in FA then went on to win the SB? It seems to me that all the big signings usually fall short... The Eagles "Dream Team" Year, last years Dolphins team, The year the Browns spent tons of money on the offensive line....I'm sure there's more.


Seattle
Quote:Why does it bother you so much?
 

It doesn't bother me "so much".

 

Why do you assume that every time people try to set the story straight around here that it means they are "mad" or "bothered so much" or what not?
Quote:Seattle
And those players were?
Quote:And those players were?


Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett. They also traded for Percy Harvin, who would be considered high profile, although not a FA.


And then they won the SB.


So it happened last year.
Quote:It's amazing how many people just don't get this.

 

Has there ever been a free agent signing that didn't rave about every single thing to do with their new team?

 

"The coach has a vision that I share." "I like the direction this franchise is moving in." etc.
 

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Quote:Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett. They also traded for Percy Harvin, who would be considered high profile, although not a FA.


And then they won the SB.


So it happened last year.
They both signed "prove it" contracts. Bennet got his big contract this year not last year.

 

Avril signed a 2 yr deal. Neither one signed a big contract nor were they considered "Top level FA" . If they were, wouldn't someone have given them more than a 2 or 1 yr deal?
Quote:They both signed "prove it" contracts. Bennet got his big contract this year not last year.


Avril signed a 2 yr deal. Neither one signed a big contract nor were they considered "Top level FA" . If they were, wouldn't someone have given them more than a 2 or 1 yr deal?
Avril got 2 YR, 15 mil. That's a decent sized contract.


What I'm saying is that the Seahawks definitely did not just sit on there hands last off season. They did spend money. And won the Superbowl.
Quote:Reading not your strong suit?

 

What i said was no team has signed a top level FA AND THEN GONE ON TO WIN THE SB. And that statement is true.
 

Unless there is something about your statement that I have somehow missed, this statement is false.

 

Aside from TMDs Deion Sanders example with the 49ers and Cowboys, SF also signed Ken Norton, Jr and won it all. Green Bay signed guys like Reggie White and Sean Jones and won the Super Bowl.  Denver signed Neil Smith and Bill Romanowski and won.  Tampa signed Keenan McCardell and won the Super Bowl.  Baltimore signed guys like Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharpe, Tony Siragusa and Sam Adams.  Seattle signed Michael Bennett and won.  New Orleans signed Jon Vilma, jeremy Shockey and Drew Brees and won it all.  The Packers came back and signed Charles Woodson and brought home the Lombardi trophy.

 

I will say fewer "top level" FAs have become available over the years as teams learned how to deal with free agency and learned to retain their top level talent.

 

But to suggest that no Super Bowl winning team has ever benefitted from signing a top level free agent is false.

this is the most aggressive ive seen us in FA in a long time.

Quote:Avril got 2 YR, 15 mil. That's a decent sized contract.


What I'm saying is that the Seahawks definitely did not just sit on there hands last off season. They did spend money. And won the Superbowl.
 very similar to what the Jags are doing and wasen't Percy hurt? not much of a factor in their run.
The Percy contract alone was ridiculous. Revis-esque. Avril and Bennett were a combined 3 yrs $20M.
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No, but it is humorous how people will continually fall for the same lies over and over again and actually believe they have any meaning at all.

 

Free agents are here because they're getting paid well to be here. Having the opportunity to be frontline starters might come into it slightly, but the overriding factor is money. Their agents wouldn't allow for them to behave otherwise, they would rather drop players as clients than accept a lower deal when a higher money deal is available.
Quote:this is the most aggressive ive seen us in FA in a long time.
Reminds me of the 1990s.
Quote:Unless there is something about your statement that I have somehow missed, this statement is false.

 

Aside from TMDs Deion Sanders example with the 49ers and Cowboys, SF also signed Ken Norton, Jr and won it all. Green Bay signed guys like Reggie White and Sean Jones and won the Super Bowl.  Denver signed Neil Smith and Bill Romanowski and won.  Tampa signed Keenan McCardell and won the Super Bowl.  Baltimore signed guys like Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharpe, Tony Siragusa and Sam Adams.  Seattle signed Michael Bennett and won.  New Orleans signed Jon Vilma, jeremy Shockey and Drew Brees and won it all.  The Packers came back and signed Charles Woodson and brought home the Lombardi trophy.

 

I will say fewer "top level" FAs have become available over the years as teams learned how to deal with free agency and learned to retain their top level talent.

 

But to suggest that no Super Bowl winning team has ever benefitted from signing a top level free agent is false.


Obviously reading is not your "strong suit." Hahaha
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