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Quote:Just like you said Russell Wilson's dont come around everyday, its just as hard to get a Kam Chancellor or a Richard Sherman in the 5th or later.  Those 2 players are the best at their position.
You can find a lot more Kams and Shermans than Russell Wilson's...
Quote:Look what up your wrong?    Any qb can win on any given day.   i have said it before i can again.    This is not baseball football is a team sport.    And Detroit has a ton of top first round picks that means what?    Just take the loss.   You wont win against knowledge.
You have just said absolutely nothing...
Quote:You can find a lot more Kams and Shermans than Russell Wilson's...
Name some?

He just wants him 15 seconds of fame.   Back ups have won super bowls.    Don't try me.  I passed a 50 question jags quiz with flying colors to win 1st row stadium tickets.    Every time you make an excuse to justify the truth.   It is silly at best.

Quote:He just wants him 15 seconds of fame.   Back ups have won super bowls.    Don't try me.  I passed a 50 question jags quiz with flying colors to win 1st row stadium tickets.    Every time you make an excuse to justify the truth.   It is silly at best.
He is on google right now trying to find some Kams or Shermans lol
Quote:He just wants him 15 seconds of fame.   Back ups have won super bowls.    Don't try me.  I passed a 50 question jags quiz with flying colors to win 1st row stadium tickets.    Every time you make an excuse to justify the truth.   It is silly at best.
Backups didn't get em there...
Quote:He is on google right now trying to find some Kams or Shermans lol
For what???
Quote:For what???
you said "You can find a lot more Kams and Shermans than Russell Wilson's"  Like who?
seattle did the right thing they built guys for their game plan.   Who would only fit there scheme and be successful.   Not to say they would not have success elsewhere.   Just not as dominant.   

The just showed a stat.  5 times the number 1 defense has played the number 1 offense in the SB and the number 1 defense is 4-1

Quote:You can find a lot more Kams and Shermans than Russell Wilson's...
didnt think you could find em
Everyone laughed at sherman after his comments he is the best.    Now the hawks won.   love to see the doubters.   but certainly not a hawks fan.     Jags since day one jags till i die win lose or tie.

Quote:didnt think you could find em
Didn't bother to
Quote:Everyone laughed at sherman after his comments he is the best.    Now the hawks won.   love to see the doubters.   but certainly not a hawks fan.     Jags since day one jags till i die win lose or tie.
We can agree on that, never got the Sherman hate
Quote:Didn't bother to
because you cant, your statement was false

Quote:because you cant, your statement was false
Not at all actually, its what you want to assume
Quote:Russell Wilson's are rarer than Andrew Lucks


Wilson was a first round great in everything except height...Its not happening again


I'm sure I'll miss a few but here's a try


Dalton, Brady , Foles, Romo, Brees , Glennon (too early ?), Wilson, Kaep... Can I make Brunell for fun?


They all seem like good pro bowl qbs. Why don't you make me some guaranteed 10 sack guys outta the first like jj or Aldon or jpp
Quote:I'm sure I'll miss a few but here's a try


Dalton, Brady , Foles, Romo, Brees , Glennon (too early ?), Wilson, Kaep... Can I make Brunell for fun?


They all seem like good pro bowl qbs. Why don't you make me some guaranteed 10 sack guys outta the first like jj or Aldon or jpp
 

The fact that you list Glennon and Dalton loses you all credibility.  Listing Glennon is one of the biggest reaches I've ever seen.

 

But let's see... 

 

JPP missed having 10 sacks last year... so I'm going by the benchmark of having 10+ sacks for at least... 3 years.

 

Robert Mathis was a 5th rounder. 111 career sacks.

Jared Allen was a 4th rounder.  Has had 10+ sacks a year for the past 7 years

Elvis Dumervile was a 4th rounder

Osi Umineyora was a 2nd rounder

Shaun Phillips was a 4th rounder 

Trent Cole was a 5th rounder

James Harrison went undrafted

Chris Clemons was undrafted too

Cameron Wake (though he doesn't fit the 10 sacks for 3 years bit, he's done well for sacks) also went undrafted

Cliff Avril (though he also doesn't fit the 10 sacks for 3 years bit, he's done well too) went in the 3rd round

Greg Hardy is becoming that kind of player, and was taken in the 6th round

 

Only listing active players.  Where we could include:


Kevin Greene (5th round)

Michael Strahan (2nd round)

Jason Taylor (3rd round)

John Randle (undrafted)

Richard Dent (8th rounder)

 

and more...
Quote:Everyone laughed at sherman after his comments he is the best.    Now the hawks won.   love to see the doubters.   but certainly not a hawks fan.     Jags since day one jags till i die win lose or tie.
Sherman isn't the best Corner in the league and isn't even the best player in that Seattle Secondary... lol
How does listing Andy Dalton prove me wrong?  Isn't the point of a QB to manage your team to a win?  This whole concept is you can find a QB later for wins.  So someone who leads your team to a few playoff games is considered wrong?  

 

Mike Glennon didn't lead the Bucs to a few wins in the 2nd half of the season?  If he did that to us, we'd be saying oh man, I can't wait to see his future.  

 

So you listed about 11?  I listed about 7?  It's so rare to find lQBs out of the 1st round (is your argument).  Out of 32 teams, 7 QBs could have been had for past the 1st round?  7 out of 32 isn't bad.  11 out of how many DEs that play often in the league?  Outta that 7, you have superbowl winners, MVPs, etc.  Out of your 11 you named, none of them compare to JPP, JJ Watt, Mario Williams

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