Quote:Blaine was the number 1 pick in many of the early mock drafts... Locker was always hyped up too. Ponder was the only pick considered a reach.
Agree, but it's the position that drives teams to desperation, believing QBs can become something they aren't. Whether it comes early or late, false hype is equally false.
Quote:Blaine was the number 1 pick in many of the early mock drafts... Locker was always hyped up too. Ponder was the only pick considered a reach.
This is a pretty big myth actually. People started talking about Blaine possibly becoming the first QB taken around the combine, but people weren't actually mocking him consistently #1 or over Cam.
Quote:This is a pretty big myth actually. People started talking about Blaine possibly becoming the first QB taken around the combine, but people weren't actually mocking him consistently #1 or over Cam.
Lying doesn't rewrite history.
Yes, they were.
You should have at least tried Google before putting both feet in your mouth on this one.
Quote:Lying doesn't rewrite history.
Yes, they were.
You should have at least tried Google before putting both feet in your mouth on this one.
Are you suggesting that Blaine Gabbert was the "consensus" number 1 QB pick during that time? If so, you'd be wrong.
Maybe a few mocks had him over Cam but it was far from universal.
Quote:Blaine was the number 1 pick in many of the early mock drafts... Locker was always hyped up too. Ponder was the only pick considered a reach.
The mention of locker and ponder does kinda prove the point though of be wary of high risers.
Where does Ben Roethlisberger fall into this discussion?
Being in the MAC, you know he didn't get the kind of preseason/regular season publicity Eli Manning got.
He would seem to fall into the category of "late riser."
Quote:Where does Ben Roethlisberger fall into this discussion?
Being in the MAC, you know he didn't get the kind of preseason/regular season publicity Eli Manning got.
He would seem to fall into the category of "late riser."
He may not of got the publicity but doesn't mean he wasn't touted early on, truthfully I have no idea.
But when you have to go back to a draft what would be 10 years previous, by the time this next draft comes around, I think it's fair to call it an outlier.
Quote:The mention of locker and ponder does kinda prove the point though of be wary of high risers.
Lockers stock actually fell. Dont know what u mean here. Most people thought he would go numver one the year before he came out
Quote:Lockers stock actually fell. Dont know what u mean here. Most people thought he would go numver one the year before he came out
I was quoting another post where it mentioned locker and ponder as high risers and made my comment as such.
I must admit though I did forget until you mentioned it how highly rated Locker was the year before he came out. It's still true for Ponder though.
Quote:Lockers stock actually fell. Dont know what u mean here. Most people thought he would go numver one the year before he came out
Locker's fell from where his perceived position was after his junior year. At no point into his senior season was he considered a top 10 pick. You would also be hard pressed to find any pre-draft ranking or mock where he was listed above Gabbert.
At this point, I don't see how anybody can be considered a "late riser." Most players haven't even played their bowl games yet.
If by "late riser" its meant that the players best season was his last season which significantly increased his draft stock then, well, duh.
Quote:Are you suggesting that Blaine Gabbert was the "consensus" number 1 QB pick during that time? If so, you'd be wrong.
Maybe a few mocks had him over Cam but it was far from universal.
There's the truth, and then there's always your incorrect version of it. Google it. All the numerous articles are still out there. But then, you've shown the cowardly capacity to tuck your tail and run when proven wrong as you are now.
Houston Owner Bob McNair is
on record stating that Clowney "...is actually a better athlete than Mario [Williams]." I don't know that it guarantees Clowney going to Houston, but there are a lot of connections there to be considered.
Quote:Houston Owner Bob McNair is on record stating that Clowney "...is actually a better athlete than Mario [Williams]." I don't know that it guarantees Clowney going to Houston, but there are a lot of connections there to be considered.
He's a Julius Peppers clone. His athleticism is off the charts.
A month ago I didn't think it, but I've got a feeling he goes #1 to Houston now. He's low risk and would improve their defense. With QB so deep, they can wait until their next pick and grab someone to compete with Schaub and Keenum.
Quote:A month ago I didn't think it, but I've got a feeling he goes #1 to Houston now. He's low risk and would improve their defense. With QB so deep, they can wait until their next pick and grab someone to compete with Schaub and Keenum.
I'm beginning to agree with you. I think it goes Clowney, Manziel and then Teddy to us.
Quote:I'm beginning to agree with you. I think it goes Clowney, Manziel and then Teddy to us.
Unless STL can't trade back for some reason, then we get first dibs at the QB position since they will likely take a tackle. But yeah, it seems like we have an excellent shot at Bridgewater.