Quote:Darn.
Welp, The Texans with a new coach and Bridgewater could be scary....
I hope we didn't win the battle and lose the war.
Texans, Please please please please hire Jack Del Rio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, it just goes to show the difference in the 2 teams....
The Texans are one season removed from 12 wins, a div title and a playoff victory...and they fired Kubiak....
The Jags were essentially in the same situation in 2008 but kept Del Rio.... smh
I was looking at Kubiak's record and just thinking how similar it was to Del Rio
Quote:Del Rio should have been handled in 2005 specifically with the Wild Card game QB fiasco in mind. Garrard earned the playoff start and Del Rio fixed up Leftwich with an air split for his ankle and decided that was good enough. John Madden was being kind to not make a complete idiot out of "Alibi" Jack.
By the time Garrard finally entired the game, it was obvious that Del Rio just wanted David to get ripped in half.
I had to like this, because that was absolutely one of the best examples of a Del Rio blunder.
Quote:NFL Network is reporting that the Jacksonville Jaguars have knocked out Gary Kubiak from the NFL coaching ranks.
Good.
Where does it say that? I only read they were sick of losing after their 11th straight loss, which means it is only a coincidence we got him fired.
Quote:Is this the first time ever that a coach got fired because of losing to the Jags?
No coach was ever fired just for losing to a certain opponent. The Jaguars were the final straw for Bob McNair, who already was thinking about firing Gary Kubiak.
Quote:Jimmy Johnson
I thought everyone knew he said before the game he was retiring after the season. No way would the Dolphins have fired him if he chose to continue coaching.
Quote:There is a better chance of the Texans drafting Bridgewater and hiring his head coach (Charlie Strong) than any of those other scenarios.
Rick Smith made it very clear he only will look at coaches who have NFL coaching experience, which keeps Strong off the list of candidates.
Quote:There's a lot of ways this turns out good for Jacksonville:
- Texans hire Jack Del Rio
- Texans retain Wade Phillips after he wins out the rest of the season
- Texans hire Kyle Shanahan
- Texans hire Rob Ryan
Just to name a few.
I don't know about Rob Ryan, the media tries to make him a circus like Rex, but I feel like he is a better coach and talks less than his brother. I mean look at what he is doing with the Saints.
Quote:I'd take Kubiak over Fisch as OC in a nanosecond.
My thinking exactly...which means it will never happen. After all, the Gene Smith PR department cronies
STILL on Jaguars' payroll are fist-pumping about Fisch the genuis.
Now if he can teach WRs to get beyond the first down marker....
Quote:I was looking at Kubiak's record and just thinking how similar it was to Del Rio
But JDR never won a division title. We went to the playoffs as a wild card team. Also, GK only worked for one general manager, Rick Smith, so there were different talent issues in Houston.
Quote:I agree Khan is different. But it was pretty clear to see that I was specifically refering to the Jags not firing JDR in 2008.
keep on living in the past then, but I don't understand the comparison, that 2008 roster was not loaded with talent, it's not like they were terrible due to lack of coaching
Quote:But JDR never won a division title. We went to the playoffs as a wild card team. Also, GK only worked for one general manager, Rick Smith, so there were different talent issues in Houston.
But Del Rio went to the playoffs twice, won one game, had a almost even .500 record. They are very similar. Kubiak never won the division when Manning was in it either.
Quote:keep on living in the past then, but I don't understand the comparison, that 2008 roster was not loaded with talent, it's not like they were terrible due to lack of coaching
Yep, we were terrible because the entire offensive line went on IR in the first 3 weeks.
I find it interesting that nobody is saying if the timing was surprising or expected. I always thought the Texans would wait until the regular season ends.
Is this the first time an assistant coach was promoted to interim head coach twice in the same season?
Quote:My thinking exactly...which means it will never happen. After all, the Gene Smith PR department cronies STILL on Jaguars' payroll are fist-pumping about Fisch the genuis.
Now if he can teach WRs to get beyond the first down marker....
I'm pretty sure they know how to get beyond the first down marker. Unless it's 3rd and very short, there's almost always going to be some routes that go short of the sticks.
There were 2 times last night where a better thrown ball would've given the WR the opportunity to pick up the 1st even though it was thrown short of the sticks.
Quote:Yep, we were terrible because the entire offensive line went on IR in the first 3 weeks.
Brad Meester was on the PUP list, not IR. And neither offensive tackle was ever injured that year.
Quote:Yep, we were terrible because the entire offensive line went on IR in the first 3 weeks.
well that, and we over achieved in 2007 and gave our whole draft for Harvey and Groves
edit: oh yeah and there's Jerry Porter
Quote:I'm pretty sure they know how to get beyond the first down marker. Unless it's 3rd and very short, there's almost always going to be some routes that go short of the sticks.
There were 2 times last night where a better thrown ball would've given the WR the opportunity to pick up the 1st even though it was thrown short of the sticks.
There also were times when the Texans did not get a first down because of a stupid penalty.
Quote:Brad Meester was on the PUP list, not IR. And neither offensive tackle was ever injured that year.
I wasn't being literal with that. The point was that we went from having probowl level guards and a good center who got great push for our run game, to a bunch of backups who looked more like this year in the rushing game. That was the biggest difference. Both Freddy and MJD YPC fell off a cliff that year (phrase = went way down).
Quote:keep on living in the past then, but I don't understand the comparison, that 2008 roster was not loaded with talent, it's not like they were terrible due to lack of coaching
I wouldn't say they were loaded, but they had enough talent that it was clear that they were underachieving. Coaching indeed was an issue during that era, but you've always been one to defend Jack, so its no use...
McNair: “We’ve got three more games. Our goal is to win three more games. Some people say that’s not going to be in our interest. Well, believe me, that is in our interest. We want a winning culture and it doesn’t matter whether it’s the first game or the last game.”
Quote:McNair: “We’ve got three more games. Our goal is to win three more games (by losing)
. Some people say that’s not going to be in our interest. Well, believe me, that is in our interest (I do know who Teddy Bridgewater is FBT, I'm old, not senile!)
. We want a winning culture and it doesn’t matter whether it’s the first game next year
or the last game (superbowl!)
.”
Edit:Fixed it to make more topic appropriate
Quote:McNair: “We’ve got three more games. Our goal is to win three more games. Some people say that’s not going to be in our interest. Well, believe me, that is in our interest. We want a winning culture and it doesn’t matter whether it’s the first game or the last game.”
Oh, well - shoot!, now that McNair actually came out and SAID that, then CLEARLY thats proof that he's not tanking...
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Good lord how gullible some of you are... :no:
Actions speak louder than words. After watching Schaub last night compared to what Keenum has given of late, its pretty clear that starting Schuab would be the move of a team that was being honest with its claims of trying to win out their remaining games....but if you want to continue to pretend that the Texans aren't tanking, be my guest.
I'm shocked. The Jags are an elite team, and definitely in consideration for the Super Bowl. The Texans put up a good fight, but what can you really do against the might of the Jaguars?