Quote:I think you underestimate the arrogance of the texans. They think they're almost there. They'll want to keep a good thing going, and Phillips has been a good thing for their defense.
I also suspect they'll give him the same sort of leeway they gave kubiak to keep being mediocre for years.
I see a lot of 7 to 9 win years for them in the immediate future. :yes:
Picking a Mularkey type might actually be better for them in a way since they'd be able to tell more quickly that they need to blow it up. I could see them wasting JJ Watt's prime years on mediocrity as it is.
As said, I'd be flat out stunned if they hired Wade Phillips as head coach.
Quote:I think you underestimate the arrogance of the texans. They think they're almost there. They'll want to keep a good thing going, and Phillips has been a good thing for their defense.
I also suspect they'll give him the same sort of leeway they gave kubiak to keep being mediocre for years.
I see a lot of 7 to 9 win years for them in the immediate future. :yes:
Picking a Mularkey type might actually be better for them in a way since they'd be able to tell more quickly that they need to blow it up. I could see them wasting JJ Watt's prime years on mediocrity as it is.
McNair openly said he believes all they need is a new offensive scheme and a franchise QB in his eyes. That means a few things.
1) They dont believe Keenum is the future, and will draft a QB
2) Anyone related to the Shanahan coaching tree is out, but they will favor guys from the offensive side of the ball in their hirings
J.J. Watt is in a contract year next year. He can go wherever hs wants after that.
Quote:No, McNair showed his lack of class by bringing the Jaguars into it.
He should have just fired him, said it was for performance, and left it at that. His mentioning that it was because the team got swept by the Jaguars should have been left on the cutting room floor.
I'm looking forward to the Jaguars wiping their butt with your team for years to come.
You can look forward to it, but even with David Carr at the helm the Texans had a winning record against the Jags.. That's probably why McNair made the comments that he did.
Quote:McNair openly said he believes all they need is a new offensive scheme and a franchise QB in his eyes. That means a few things.
1) They dont believe Keenum is the future, and will draft a QB
2) Anyone related to the Shanahan coaching tree is out, but they will favor guys from the offensive side of the ball in their hirings
J.J. Watt is in a contract year next year. He can go wherever hs wants after that.
I believe there's an option in J.J. Watt's contract in which the Texans can keep Watt in the fold for a 5th season if they exercise the option.
Having said that, whether it's in 2014 and 2015, the Texans need to work out a long term contract with Watt. While the Franchise Tag can and will very likely be used if necessary once Watt's current contract expires, it's far from the ideal solution.
Quote:They haven't gotten anything related to coaching right so far.
Really.. And your team has? LOL
The guy they just fired did win the division twice.. something your team or a coach you hired hasn't done once. So I guess the Jaguars "haven't gotten anything related to coaching right so far" either.
Quote:McNair openly said he believes all they need is a new offensive scheme and a franchise QB in his eyes. That means a few things.
1) They dont believe Keenum is the future, and will draft a QB
2) Anyone related to the Shanahan coaching tree is out, but they will favor guys from the offensive side of the ball in their hirings
J.J. Watt is in a contract year next year. He can go wherever hs wants after that.
Where are you reading this stuff from?
Because McNair didn't say what you said he "openly said" Especially "favoring guys from the offensive side of the ball".. that never happened. If anything he's looking at the defensive side of the ball, that's the reason why Lovie Smith is one of the early favorites.
And J.J. Watt is NOT in a contract year next year and he can not go anywhere he wants.. that is also completely false. The Texans still have two more seasons before they even have to worry about signing him or applying a franchise tag.
Quote: I believe there's an option in J.J. Watt's contract in which the Texans can keep Watt in the fold for a 5th season if they exercise the option.
Having said that, whether it's in 2014 and 2015, the Texans need to work out a long term contract with Watt. While the Franchise Tag can and will very likely be used if necessary once Watt's current contract expires, it's far from the ideal solution.
The Texans are going to back up a brinks truck to Watt's door step. No way will they ever allow him to sniff FA. He will most likely become the highest paid defensive player in the league.
Quote:I think you underestimate the arrogance of the texans. They think they're almost there. They'll want to keep a good thing going, and Phillips has been a good thing for their defense.
I also suspect they'll give him the same sort of leeway they gave kubiak to keep being mediocre for years.
I see a lot of 7 to 9 win years for them in the immediate future. :yes:
Picking a Mularkey type might actually be better for them in a way since they'd be able to tell more quickly that they need to blow it up. I could see them wasting JJ Watt's prime years on mediocrity as it is.
We aren't the Jags.. What you just described is a reflection of your own team's issues.. Especially under JDR, because under other head coaches there wasn't a lot of 7-9 win seasons.
As far as Wade Phillips being hired.. Keep dreaming, that's not happening. Even Wade Phillips himself knows that's not happening.
Quote:Really.. And your team has? LOL
The guy they just fired did win the division twice.. something your team or a coach you hired hasn't done once. So I guess the Jaguars "haven't gotten anything related to coaching right so far" either.
Well the Jags did get it right in hiring Coughlin. Best coach of all of the 2 teams cumulative head coaching hires so far.
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As far as Wade Phillips being hired.. Keep dreaming, that's not happening. Even Wade Phillips himself knows that's not happening.
Yeah, thats what I'm thinking too. And believe me, I wish wish WISH the Texans would (have) hire Phillips as HC, or hire Jack Del Rio....
Quote:Well the Jags did get it right in hiring Coughlin. Best coach of all of the 2 teams cumulative head coaching hires so far.
Yeah, thats what I'm thinking too. And believe me, I wish wish WISH the Texans would (have) hire Phillips as HC, or hire Jack Del Rio....
That was before the AFC South division was ever formed, but yeah, Coughlin was a heck of a coach and the Jags gave up on him too soon.. They've been floundering ever since and have made bad hire after back hire so I don't really understand the logic behind bagging on people the Texans have hired.
As far as Phillips, he has zero shot at getting the HCing job here. He's only being asked to finish out the year. JDR also has the same chances of being hired. For me, I'm in the Bill O'Brien camp.. I just don't think he'll leave PSU
Quote:That was before the AFC South division was ever formed, but yeah, Coughlin was a heck of a coach and the Jags gave up on him too soon.. They've been floundering ever since and have made bad hire after back hire so I don't really understand the logic behind bagging on people the Texans have hired.
As far as Phillips, he has zero shot at getting the HCing job here. He's only being asked to finish out the year. JDR also has the same chances of being hired. For me, I'm in the Bill O'Brien camp.. I just don't think he'll leave PSU
Hah, I knew it. I could tell you are in both the O Brien and Shaw bandwagon's....I can't blame you, if the Jags were hiring a head coach this season, they'd both be on my top 5 list. O Brien was on my top 5 list last offseason too, when we were seeking a HC. I also agree that I don't see O Brien leaving PSU yet. I think he won't leave until he has that program back to relevance,
The Jags did give up on TC one year too soon. That team was just getting out of cap hell (granted that TC partly put them in) and would have reached a higher rebound with TC than Del Rio. The Jags only needed to replace Coughin (The GM), with someone who could have a working relationship with him as HC. That was the way to go. But Weaver instead blew the whole thing up.
the 'horns will scroo it up........just wait
Quote:the 'horns will scroo it up........just wait
What the heck is "scroo".. You even screw up, "screw up".
It's always sad to see someone with a glaring lack of a sense of humor.
Quote:It's always sad to see someone with a glaring lack of a sense of humor.
What's sadder is someone with glaring bad jokes. I have a sense of humor.. and my senses are telling me this guy isn't funny. seriously, who says "scroo" That isn't even a word.
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The Jags did give up on TC one year too soon. That team was just getting out of cap hell (granted that TC partly put them in) and would have reached a higher rebound with TC than Del Rio. The Jags only needed to replace Coughin (The GM), with someone who could have a working relationship with him as HC. That was the way to go. But Weaver instead blew the whole thing up.
Nothing personal, Mad Dog but you claim this revisionist history too often. (1) There's no way of knowing if Coughlin would have taken a GM hiring in stride.
(2) None of the players liked him and they were in near mutiny after three straight losing seasons in that locker room
(3)His insistence on doing too many jobs and three losing seasons got him fired and would have gotten nearly any coach fired.
Would the Jags have been better off had they kept him? Almost certainly, yes. But Coughlin brought his firing upon himself and Weaver was fully justified in the move.
Coughlin nearly got fired in NY for some of the same issues before righting his own ship and winning a Super Bowl. I wish Weaver could have talked him down from being an extreme disciplinarian and trying to be HC, OC and GM. That would have been great - but we weren't privy to any of those discussions and shouldn't assume they didn't take place. Weaver doesn't strike me as someone who would drop the axe on a coach without trying to resolve issues. Coughlin was in full swing of an attempt at a dictatorship and he didn't succeed at every role within it. He subsequently became an even better football coach with a different team that wouldn't put up with that crap.