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Quote:Give him some rest for his shouder, then a new coaching staff, and a full offseason of hard work.

 

Then we will see if he is our Franchise QB.
 

Anyone with any intelligence knows that NONE of the Jags talent can be evaluated properly under the worst head coach in NFL history. That goes for Bortles, the WRs, Myles Jack, Ramsey, Fowler, etc. Shad Khan REALLY screwed this franchise by keeping Gus 1 year too long. He's pathetic. Young players should be coached by a veteran coach who already knows how to win and who's already proven it. That's how you evaluate talent. Khan is inept.
Quote:Anyone with any intelligence knows that NONE of the Jags talent can be evaluated properly under the worst head coach in NFL history. That goes for Bortles, the WRs, Myles Jack, Ramsey, Fowler, etc. Shad Khan REALLY screwed this franchise by keeping Gus 1 year too long. He's pathetic. Young players should be coached by a veteran coach who already knows how to win and who's already proven it. That's how you evaluate talent. Khan is inept.


Bortles sucks, clown. He can't throw the football. Deal with it.
Quote:How do we know that Brandon Allen isn't the next Dak?

 

 

Blake showed me last year that when he's on his game, he has excellent pocket presence with the ability to see well downfield along with the arm to get it out there, but right now he's not on his game. I truly believe they need to sit him a couple weeks to rest his arm and get his head straight.
 


QB's that are on their game are on their game for the full 60 minutes. They are also on their game week after week after week.

 

How many full games as BB been on his game ? How many weeks in a row has he been on his game?
Quote:Bortles sucks, clown. He can't throw the football. Deal with it.
 

Ok clown. 60 TD's and 8,000 yards the past 2 years say otherwise. Best Jags QB in history. 

 

If the Jags had Coughlin/Gilbride with Bortles, they would exceed what they did with the expansion team. 
Quote:QB's that are on their game are on their game for the full 60 minutes. They are also on their game week after week after week.

 

How many full games as BB been on his game ? How many weeks in a row has he been on his game?
 

The past 5 games Bortles QB rating is 87.1 with 11 TDs and 5 INTs. He's not the majority of the problem. Gus Bradley, their o line, and running game is. Not to mention their #27 scoring defense EVERY year. Gus Bradley has 1 JOB.....to fix the defense. His "specialty" is defense. He's never been better than 26th in scoring defense in 4 seasons. The worst coach in NFL history can't even stop Tyrod Taylor.

Quote:Bortles is done? He set franchise records last year, and at his current pace, he'll actually continue to exceed the best seasons for TDs for Brunell and Garrard. He's not done. At least I hope not. I don't think it will take half a decade to determine where he fits, but as someone has already said in this thread, you don't need him to be an elite QB for the team to win. You just need him to be better than average, which he's more than capable of.

How is he more then capable of being Average, when he has a below average win percentage??? Is it because of his inflated stats from garbage time last year?? The kid has had ample time and he hasnt panned out.... People always look at #s instead of the player.. Its called the eye test. Ans he is failing in that area. .
Quote:The past 4 games his QB rating exceed 90. 
 

Interesting because he has only 2 games this year where his rating was over 90 and they were not the last 4 games.

Quote:Ok clown. 60 TD's and 8,000 yards the past 2 years say otherwise. Best Jags QB in history.


If the Jags had Coughlin/Gilbride with Bortles, they would exceed what they did with the expansion team.




Them stupid #s dont mean he is better then Brunell or Garrard... When have he led the jags to the playoffs? His numbers are inflated anyway,because the jags were losing soo much he had to throw the ball .. Show me his win percentage? Thats what counts!
Quote:Them stupid #s dont mean he is better then Brunell or Garrard... When have he led the jags to the playoffs? His numbers are inflated anyway,because the jags were losing soo much he had to throw the ball .. Show me his win percentage? Thats what counts!
 

The past 5 games Bortles QB rating is 87.1 with 11 TDs and 5 INTs. He's not the majority of the problem. Gus Bradley, their o line, and running game is. Not to mention their #27 scoring defense EVERY year. Gus Bradley has 1 JOB.....to fix the defense. His "specialty" is defense. He's never been better than 26th in scoring defense in 4 seasons. The worst coach in NFL history can't even stop Tyrod Taylor, a glorified checkdown artist that.

Quote:The past 5 games Bortles QB rating is 87.1 with 11 TDs and 5 INTs. He's not the majority of the problem. Gus Bradley, their o line, and running game is. Not to mention their #27 scoring defense EVERY year. Gus Bradley has 1 JOB.....to fix the defense. His "specialty" is defense. He's never been better than 26th in scoring defense in 4 seasons. The worst coach in NFL history can't even stop Tyrod Taylor.
 


what about past 6? see you changed your post from 4 games to 5 games to get your numbers to fit.

 

quick question. how many games this year has he gone over 90 rating?
Quote:The past 5 games Bortles QB rating is 87.1 with 11 TDs and 5 INTs. He's not the majority of the problem. Gus Bradley, their o line, and running game is. Not to mention their #27 scoring defense EVERY year. Gus Bradley has 1 JOB.....to fix the defense. His "specialty" is defense. He's never been better than 26th in scoring defense in 4 seasons. The worst coach in NFL history can't even stop Tyrod Taylor.
 

Tyrod Taylor is a top 15 QB this year.  Bortles is 26th in QBR this year and he was 24th last year on the season that you like to hang everything on.
you guys are really going to get spacecoast started on this again huh
Quote:How is he more then capable of being Average, when he has a below average win percentage??? Is it because of his inflated stats from garbage time last year?? The kid has had ample time and he hasnt panned out.
 

 

A clear sign of lack of intelligence in this post...... Why don't you ask Matthew Stafford who's WHOLE career has had a terrible defense yet this year Detroit is a #15 scoring defense and is in the playoff hunt. Barry Sanders? Dan Marino? If your team is AWFUL, you don't stand a chance. 
Quote:Tyrod Taylor is a top 15 QB this year.  
 

 

Tyrod Taylor is lucky to be an NFL starter. He's not very good like Teddy Bridgewater. When you have LeSean McCoy and a #12 scoring defense, you'll ALWAYS be in the playoff hunt. When you have TJ Yeldon, Gus Bradley and a #27 scoring defense, you're a bottom feeder.

 

Tyrod Taylor is like David Garrard....he can throw 1 pass, a slant. 

Quote:what about past 6? see you changed your post from 4 games to 5 games to get your numbers to fit.

 

quick question. how many games this year has he gone over 90 rating?
 

Bortles played FLAWLESS in 2 of the last 5 games and the Jags still lost. Why? Might want to ask you're #27 ranked Gus Bradley scoring defense who can't even stop checkdown QB's like Tyrod Taylor
Quote:Tyrod Taylor is lucky to be an NFL starter. He's not very good like Teddy Bridgewater. When you have LeSean McCoy and a #12 scoring defense, you'll ALWAYS be in the playoff hunt. When you have TJ Yeldon, Gus Bradley and a #27 scoring defense, you're a bottom feeder.

 

Tyrod Taylor is like David Garrard....he can make 1 pass, a slant. 
 

Then how would you explain the Oakland Raiders who are #23 in scoring defense but with a 9-2 record?

Quote:Bortles played FLAWLESS in 2 of the last 5 games and the Jags still lost. Why? Might want to ask you're #27 ranked Gus Bradley scoring defense who can't even stop checkdown QB's like Tyrod Taylor
 


2 out of 5?? LOL...Yep that is what every NFL team dreams of,  that their starting QB plays 2 great games out of 5.
Quote:The past 5 games Bortles QB rating is 87.1 with 11 TDs and 5 INTs. 
So Blake's "successful" stretch would be good for 24th best pass rating in the league this year. Sign me up for more of that!
Quote: their o line, and running game is. Not to mention their #27 scoring defense EVERY year.
We already thoroughly debunked every one of these. Did you think that disappearing for two weeks was going to get us to forget the truth?

 

The rushing game is at 4.2 yards per attempt, 17th best...not bad.

 

The oline is allowing sacks at the also 17th rate, 5.25% of Blake's drop backs...not bad.

 

The defense is forcing 4.8 punts per game, 10th in the league...good.

 

The defense is allowing 5.0 yards per play, 6th best in the league...very good.

 

Everything about this team is good enough, or better than good enough, except for the QB. Get us a franchise caliber QB and HC and we would be a playoff team right now. 

Quote:2 out of 5?? LOL...Yep that is what every NFL team dreams of, that their starting QB plays 2 great games out of 5.



You're missing the point like usual because you're not bright enough to get it. It doesn't matter how Bortles plays....flawless or 2 INTs, they will still lose because the Jags have a DEFENSIVE MINDED coach who has a #27 ranked scoring defense AGAIN!


If you think 30-35 TD Bortles sucks and you want a 15-20 TD winning QB like Tyrod Taylor, Sam Bradford, or Joe Flacco then you BETTER have a top 5-10 scoring defense
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