(11-13-2017, 02:47 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]Part of that though, is I feel like a lot of the issues connecting on those passes are the receivers not knowing what to expect from his throws. Here’s hoping they can find some consistency and production there.
I will just say that a combination of Marquise "lead the league in drops" Lee and Keelan Cole is the worst WR combo in the NFL.
Lee had 1 drop. Cole 1 drop. Marcedes Lewis 2 drops. This happens every game.
(11-13-2017, 02:56 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 02:47 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]Part of that though, is I feel like a lot of the issues connecting on those passes are the receivers not knowing what to expect from his throws. Here’s hoping they can find some consistency and production there.
I will just say that a combination of Marquise "lead the league in drops" Lee and Keelan Cole is the worst WR combo in the NFL.
Lee had 1 drop. Cole 1 drop. Marcedes Lewis 2 drops. This happens every game.
Don't forget the Chargers DBs had multiple drops.
(11-13-2017, 02:57 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 02:56 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] I will just say that a combination of Marquise "lead the league in drops" Lee and Keelan Cole is the worst WR combo in the NFL.
Lee had 1 drop. Cole 1 drop. Marcedes Lewis 2 drops. This happens every game.
Don't forget the Chargers DBs had multiple drops.
That tends to happen when you have the worst WRs in the league, a 30 yard running game, and 3 OL injured. Surprised Bortles manned up and still took the Jags on a big OT drive that established field position for the win with scrubs like Mickens.
OL and WR/TE the two/three positions that will be heavily drafted this year.
(11-13-2017, 02:56 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 02:47 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]Part of that though, is I feel like a lot of the issues connecting on those passes are the receivers not knowing what to expect from his throws. Here’s hoping they can find some consistency and production there.
I will just say that a combination of Marquise "lead the league in drops" Lee and Keelan Cole is the worst WR combo in the NFL.
Lee had 1 drop. Cole 1 drop. Marcedes Lewis 2 drops. This happens every game.
Everybody but Bortles right? How inept.
(11-13-2017, 03:00 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 02:57 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Don't forget the Chargers DBs had multiple drops.
That tends to happen when you have the worst WRs in the league, a 30 yard running game, and 3 OL injured. Surprised Bortles manned up and still took the Jags on a big OT drive that established field position for the win with scrubs like Mickens.
OL and WR/TE the two/three positions that will be heavily drafted this year.
So did Blake play well in the final 2 minutes of regulation and OT?
(11-13-2017, 09:53 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 09:51 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]The same coaches that have this team at 6-3 with the best defense in the league? Oh yea... they're terrible.
But on the Bortles topic, he's still the same guy. Chargers dropped how many interceptions? Jags needed him to step up and he threw 2 interceptions in the last 2 minutes. If it weren't for this defense creating 2 timely turnovers, Jags don't win this game.
Jags are gonna need Blake to be great in crunch time to win some playoff games. Are we sure he can do that?
C'mon Cleatwood. The same coaches who had 3 timeouts left with a minute left in the half and didn't even TRY to get in FG range. It is hard to deny the coaching and game plan yesterday wasn't garbage and we won in spite of it.
Agree so much, not to mention going for it on 4 and 6? The defense covered a lot more than just the offensive mistakes, everything but the D was pretty much at losing level.
You guys don’t get it. If everything around Bortles was going perfectly, only then he wouldn’t play atrocious. Inept fans can’t understand this.
(11-13-2017, 03:22 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]You guys don’t get it. If everything around Bortles was going perfectly, only then he wouldn’t play atrocious. Inept fans can’t understand this.
We wish we knew football.
As long as we have an all-pro OL, an elite RB, 3 future HOF WRs, and a historically great defense.... Bortles is a first ballot HoFer
He almost cost us the game. He has to play better and he can, but the bad decisions need to stop or the wins will stop.
(11-13-2017, 02:56 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 02:47 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]Part of that though, is I feel like a lot of the issues connecting on those passes are the receivers not knowing what to expect from his throws. Here’s hoping they can find some consistency and production there.
I will just say that a combination of Marquise "lead the league in drops" Lee and Keelan Cole is the worst WR combo in the NFL.
Lee had 1 drop. Cole 1 drop. Marcedes Lewis 2 drops. This happens every game.
Hurns had 2 or 3 fantastic catches where he had to adjust for balls being thrown behind him. The announcers highlighted that a few times yesterday; "Hurns with a terrific catch adjusting to that ball thrown well behind him."
Bortles had a terrific drive in the 3rd, but "Mr. Drops the Ball Lee (one of the "worst" in the league)" made two FANTASTIC catches in the end zone for the TD and the 2pt conversion.
He had to be a ballerina to get his feet inbounds on the TD,, and was nearly on the ground laying out for that 2 pt try.
Lee was awesome on those plays.
The Chargers took advantage of the the Jags MASH unit Oline, and gampelanned to stack against the run to stop it, forcing Bortles to beat them. Their plan worked except for only a couple drives.
I'm good with Bortles if he doesn't make dumb mistakes at crunch time (he's been pretty good this year with that, until crunch time yesterday).
BTW:
Case Keenum is 7-2 with the Vikings right now. Case freaking Keenum!
So, that just goes to show you that ,yes, if the rest of the team is superb, that ANY QB can be successful.
Case freaking Keenum
(11-13-2017, 07:20 PM)jagherd Wrote: [ -> ]BTW:
Case Keenum is 7-2 with the Vikings right now. Case freaking Keenum!
So, that just goes to show you that ,yes, if the rest of the team is superb, that ANY QB can be successful.
Case freaking Keenum
I've watched a ton of the Vikings this year and with confidence I'd say we'd be 8-1 with Keenum as our QB.
The best thing about this victory besides keeping the Jaguars tied for 1st in the AFC South is that the "fat lady has sung" on the question about Blake Bortles' future in Jacksonville. Blake deserves credit for being one of the toughest quarterbacks in the NFL. No doubt, the depleted offensive line made it very difficult for him as he was constantly pressured. HOWEVER, he threw 2 interceptions in crunch time and should have ended up with a total of 4 "picks" if not for the Chargers dropping a couple including a sure "pick 6."
Sometime following this season (hopefully after the Jaguars win at least one playoff game), Tom Coughlin and Dave Caldwell will be having their final discussion about who they should target as the team's quarterback moving forward. It should go something like this:
Coughlin: " Dave, what are your thoughts about our quarterback position next season?"
Caldwell: " Well, Tom, I'm glad you asked. I know Blake has his faults, but he took us to the 2nd round of the playoffs and even though he threw
5 interceptions and fumbled twice in our playoff loss, he deserves one more year and we can still draft someone in the 2nd round in
case he fails to improve."
Coughlin: "Dave, remind me to never again ask your opinion on the quarterback position. Bortles had zero chance of returning after he nearly
singlehandedly cost us the Chargers' game."
Caldwell: "Sorry, Coach. You can't blame me for trying since I drafted him ahead of Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. Can I at least keep my job as I
did draft Jalen Ramsay.?"
(11-13-2017, 08:04 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]The best thing about this victory besides keeping the Jaguars tied for 1st in the AFC South is that the "fat lady has sung" on the question about Blake Bortles' future in Jacksonville. Blake deserves credit for being one of the toughest quarterbacks in the NFL. No doubt, the depleted offensive line made it very difficult for him as he was constantly pressured. HOWEVER, he threw 2 interceptions in crunch time and should have ended up with a total of 4 "picks" if not for the Chargers dropping a couple including a sure "pick 6."
Sometime following this season (hopefully after the Jaguars win at least one playoff game), Tom Coughlin and Dave Caldwell will be having their final discussion about who they should target as the team's quarterback moving forward. It should go something like this:
Coughlin: " Dave, what are your thoughts about our quarterback position next season?"
Caldwell: " Well, Tom, I'm glad you asked. I know Blake has his faults, but he took us to the 2nd round of the playoffs and even though he threw
5 interceptions and fumbled twice in our playoff loss, he deserves one more year and we can still draft someone in the 2nd round in
case he fails to improve."
Coughlin: "Dave, remind me to never again ask your opinion on the quarterback position. Bortles had zero chance of returning after he nearly
singlehandedly cost us the Chargers' game."
Caldwell: "Sorry, Coach. You can't blame me for trying since I drafted him ahead of Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. Can I at least keep my job as I
did draft Jalen Ramsay.?"
Did you really just say singlehandedly almost cost us the game? I'm not a big Bortles fan, but that's just a dumb statement.
(11-13-2017, 08:28 PM)atburg Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 08:04 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]The best thing about this victory besides keeping the Jaguars tied for 1st in the AFC South is that the "fat lady has sung" on the question about Blake Bortles' future in Jacksonville. Blake deserves credit for being one of the toughest quarterbacks in the NFL. No doubt, the depleted offensive line made it very difficult for him as he was constantly pressured. HOWEVER, he threw 2 interceptions in crunch time and should have ended up with a total of 4 "picks" if not for the Chargers dropping a couple including a sure "pick 6."
Sometime following this season (hopefully after the Jaguars win at least one playoff game), Tom Coughlin and Dave Caldwell will be having their final discussion about who they should target as the team's quarterback moving forward. It should go something like this:
Coughlin: " Dave, what are your thoughts about our quarterback position next season?"
Caldwell: " Well, Tom, I'm glad you asked. I know Blake has his faults, but he took us to the 2nd round of the playoffs and even though he threw
5 interceptions and fumbled twice in our playoff loss, he deserves one more year and we can still draft someone in the 2nd round in
case he fails to improve."
Coughlin: "Dave, remind me to never again ask your opinion on the quarterback position. Bortles had zero chance of returning after he nearly
singlehandedly cost us the Chargers' game."
Caldwell: "Sorry, Coach. You can't blame me for trying since I drafted him ahead of Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. Can I at least keep my job as I
did draft Jalen Ramsay.?"
Did you really just say singlehandedly almost cost us the game? I'm not a big Bortles fan, but that's just a dumb statement.
What about the word "nearly" do you not understand? Yes, the offensive line played very poorly, some players used very bad judgement when committing taunting penalties and our receivers dropped at least 2 or 3 well thrown balls by Bortles. That being said, Bortles is one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Have our expectations of him dropped so low that his supporters actually think he played o.k. yesterday? Not only is his lack of accuracy a big problem, but the guy is just not "wired" to handle adversity. His career will continue as a backup on another team like Blain Gabbert, so I wouldn't feel too sorry for him.
(11-13-2017, 03:34 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 03:22 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]You guys don’t get it. If everything around Bortles was going perfectly, only then he wouldn’t play atrocious. Inept fans can’t understand this.
We wish we knew football.
As long as we have an all-pro OL, an elite RB, 3 future HOF WRs, and a historically great defense.... Bortles is a first ballot HoFer
Yup. The same way Trent Dilfer is. Bortles is basically Dilfer 2.0
(11-13-2017, 08:57 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-13-2017, 08:28 PM)atburg Wrote: [ -> ]Did you really just say singlehandedly almost cost us the game? I'm not a big Bortles fan, but that's just a dumb statement.
What about the word "nearly" do you not understand? Yes, the offensive line played very poorly, some players used very bad judgement when committing taunting penalties and our receivers dropped at least 2 or 3 well thrown balls by Bortles. That being said, Bortles is one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Have our expectations of him dropped so low that his supporters actually think he played o.k. yesterday? Not only is his lack of accuracy a big problem, but the guy is just not "wired" to handle adversity. His career will continue as a backup on another team like Blain Gabbert, so I wouldn't feel too sorry for him.
Never should have been in position to have to make that " throw" ( I use that word loosely, that was more of a toss to the secondary), but my bad I missed the nearly in your comment.
Players who would not throw a bad ball on 50 throws...
Brady and...
(11-13-2017, 10:14 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Players who would not throw a bad ball on 50 throws...
Brady and...
He threw more than “a” bad ball. It’s been more than 20 years since a QB threw 2 picks in the final 2 minutes and still won the game. Bailed out big time twice when it mattered most. The defense won that game.