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(01-06-2018, 02:19 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:02 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Get a history book?  Why?  So I can help Bills fans sound out the big words?

Your history sucks.  

In the 22 years after the Bills had relevance in the long defunct AFL, the Bills had all of seven (7) .500 or better seasons.

You've had fourteen (14) seasons of four (4) wins or less, to say nothing of all of the other years you languished in mediocrity.

But let's go with the delusion the Bills have this wonderful history.

None of it will help you tomorrow.

Unfortunately, for your 29th in sacks defense, Bruce Smith is not lining up for you tomorrow.

Unfortunately for your 29th ranked run defense, Fred Smerlas won't line up at NT.

Sadly for your 29th ranked offense, Jim Kelly and Andre Reed aren't there to rescue you tomorrow.

Seriously?  You had the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL this year.  With that being said you have only 1 more win than the bills.  Your team has beat up on a very weak afc south with no luck or watson. (Well not the titans they fleeced you twice) Can you please show me one legit team you have beat seriously how many playoff teams did you beat this year I'm curious?

We beat Pittsburgh 30-9 in Pittsburgh.  They are the #2 seed in the AFC. Does that count?

We beat the Chargers.  They finished with the same record as you and put up 50+ points on you.  Does that count?  It should, because the win over the Chargers allowed you to win a tiebreaker over them and sneak into the playoffs.

We beat Baltimore.   See above excluding the points.

We beat Seattle-who finished 9-7 but just out of the playoffs.

The three teams above all finished with winning records and all missed the playoffs because in part, of losses to the Jaguars.

In fact, we beat more winning teams (4) than you did (2-Atlanta and KC)

But forget playoff teams for a moment.

We beat Cincy.  You didn't, and neither did Baltimore, which enabled you to sneak into the playoffs.

I can understand your ignorance on these matters if they were locked away in things called books. But this information is only a click away.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/t...x/2017.htm


You act as if you beat a slew of playoff teams.  You didn't. 

You beat two playoff teams-Atlanta and KC.  Both when they were mired in slumps.

(01-06-2018, 02:19 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:02 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Get a history book?  Why?  So I can help Bills fans sound out the big words?

Your history sucks.  

In the 22 years after the Bills had relevance in the long defunct AFL, the Bills had all of seven (7) .500 or better seasons.

You've had fourteen (14) seasons of four (4) wins or less, to say nothing of all of the other years you languished in mediocrity.

But let's go with the delusion the Bills have this wonderful history.

None of it will help you tomorrow.

Unfortunately, for your 29th in sacks defense, Bruce Smith is not lining up for you tomorrow.

Unfortunately for your 29th ranked run defense, Fred Smerlas won't line up at NT.

Sadly for your 29th ranked offense, Jim Kelly and Andre Reed aren't there to rescue you tomorrow.

Seriously?  You had the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL this year.  With that being said you have only 1 more win than the bills.  Your team has beat up on a very weak afc south with no luck or watson. (Well not the titans they fleeced you twice) Can you please show me one legit team you have beat seriously how many playoff teams did you beat this year I'm curious?

Come on man! Do you watch Games outside of the ills? We owned the NFC, spanked Watson, Wilson, Big Ben, etc. Pretty sure the Steelers are #2 seed. You guys are coming off as a little slooow!

(01-06-2018, 02:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:19 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously?  You had the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL this year.  With that being said you have only 1 more win than the bills.  Your team has beat up on a very weak afc south with no luck or watson. (Well not the titans they fleeced you twice) Can you please show me one legit team you have beat seriously how many playoff teams did you beat this year I'm curious?

This is third time one of you clowns came making a fool of yourself with this. LOL

So that's the game you keep you going to.  One game all year that you beat a playoff team.  But yet you're world beaters what about getting manhandled by the titans.  I kinda think it washes this Steelers game out.

You guys arent even fans, my hairy sister in law that smells like chicken wings is a bigger sports fan than you all, seriously youve been a team for like 5 years and have no history and no accomplishments. Cry!

(01-06-2018, 02:32 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:19 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously?  You had the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL this year.  With that being said you have only 1 more win than the bills.  Your team has beat up on a very weak afc south with no luck or watson. (Well not the titans they fleeced you twice) Can you please show me one legit team you have beat seriously how many playoff teams did you beat this year I'm curious?

Come on man! Do you watch Games outside of the ills? We owned the NFC, spanked Watson, Wilson, Big Ben, etc. Pretty sure the Steelers are #2 seed. You guys are coming off as a little slooow!

First off you never played Watson, Savage played both games(week 1 starter than Watson torn ACL).  Second Wilson lost by less than a td traveling out east which is always impossible.  I'll give you the big Ben thing 5 picks and all but dude your strength of schedule says it all.  You did not play anyone tough

(01-06-2018, 02:29 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:24 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]I’m trying to. Figure out if these guys are delusional, or if they are just seriously clueless to who and what the Jags are this year.   I’m starting to think they just don’t know the team due to it’s lack of exposure and what Gus Bradley did to us for the last few years.

You played a bottom feeder schedule.  You did not beat anyone this year and still only have one more win than the bills.  Stats are very misleading.  You are only the best rush team because of volume rushing.  I will give it to you your defense is good but yet again you didn't play anyone good this year.  Every time you played even a decent team you guys lost.  Can you tell me the best team you beat this year please?

That has been answered by NYC many times.  If you can’t read or comprehend, well, that’s on you and I honestly don’t give a [BLEEP]. From what I’ve been reading, that’s par for the course up there. 

You’ve beat the Falcons and Chiefs. Wow!  I’m so nervous now about playing the [BLEEP] bills.  I guess the game Jax went to Pitt and kicked their [BLEEP] doesn’t count.  Only other games we can compare will be common opponents.  Which leaves Bengals and Chargers.  Both games your team lost.  Jags beat them both. Reading  all the crap you guys have been spewing this week is going to only make the win Sunday even sweeter.  

You guys are getting your facts same place you got your playoff berth, straight out your [BLEEP].

(01-06-2018, 02:35 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]This is third time one of you clowns came making a fool of yourself with this. LOL

So that's the game you keep you going to.  One game all year that you beat a playoff team.  But yet you're world beaters what about getting manhandled by the titans.  I kinda think it washes this Steelers game out.

Nah. There's no wash. LOL  Doesn't work that way. 

I wasn't "pulling out" anything.  Just pointing out something you were clearly ignorant of. 
Others have already pointed out the other teams we've beaten that were in the same playoff hunt as your team two weeks ago.  Also - bengals say 'hello.'

Leonard Fournette must be licking his chops after seeing what Dion Lewis did to you guys a couple weeks ago.

(01-06-2018, 02:41 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:29 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]You played a bottom feeder schedule.  You did not beat anyone this year and still only have one more win than the bills.  Stats are very misleading.  You are only the best rush team because of volume rushing.  I will give it to you your defense is good but yet again you didn't play anyone good this year.  Every time you played even a decent team you guys lost.  Can you tell me the best team you beat this year please?

That has been answered by NYC many times.  If you can’t read or comprehend, well, that’s on you and I honestly don’t give a [BLEEP]. From what I’ve been reading, that’s par for the course up there. 

You’ve beat the Falcons and Chiefs. Wow!  I’m so nervous now about playing the [BLEEP] bills.  I guess the game Jax went to Pitt and kicked their [BLEEP] doesn’t count.  Only other games we can compare will be common opponents.  Which leaves Bengals and Chargers.  Both games your team lost.  Jags beat them both. Reading  all the crap you guys have been spewing this week is going to only make the win Sunday even sweeter.  

You guys are getting your facts same place you got your playoff berth, straight out your [BLEEP].

If you could read you would notice I have never once claimed the bills are the best team and going to steam roll the jags.  I am just shocked at all the jags fans who thinks they are the best team in the NFL because of the rushing stats and defense.  All I said is strength of schedule plays a very big roll in this.  By the way the bills did have one of the toughest schedules in the league.

(01-06-2018, 02:35 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]This is third time one of you clowns came making a fool of yourself with this. LOL

So that's the game you keep you going to.  One game all year that you beat a playoff team.  But yet you're world beaters what about getting manhandled by the titans.  I kinda think it washes this Steelers game out.

That second game against the tacks where the jags had absolutely nothing to play?  Ya know, because they won the division 2 weeks prior to it? The same game the tacks were fighting their [BLEEP] off for a playoff spot?  I’ll give you the first game.  But not the second one.

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(01-06-2018, 02:44 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:41 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]That has been answered by NYC many times.  If you can’t read or comprehend, well, that’s on you and I honestly don’t give a [BLEEP]. From what I’ve been reading, that’s par for the course up there. 

You’ve beat the Falcons and Chiefs. Wow!  I’m so nervous now about playing the [BLEEP] bills.  I guess the game Jax went to Pitt and kicked their [BLEEP] doesn’t count.  Only other games we can compare will be common opponents.  Which leaves Bengals and Chargers.  Both games your team lost.  Jags beat them both. Reading  all the crap you guys have been spewing this week is going to only make the win Sunday even sweeter.  

You guys are getting your facts same place you got your playoff berth, straight out your [BLEEP].

If you could read you would notice I have never once claimed the bills are the best team and going to steam roll the jags.  I am just shocked at all the jags fans who thinks they are the best team in the NFL because of the rushing stats and defense.  All I said is strength of schedule plays a very big roll in this.  By the way the bills did have one of the toughest schedules in the league.

If you could read you would notice no one on here claimed to be the best team in the NFL.  Nice try though.   Or do you just have a sads because we’re not worried about your team?

(01-06-2018, 02:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:35 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]So that's the game you keep you going to.  One game all year that you beat a playoff team.  But yet you're world beaters what about getting manhandled by the titans.  I kinda think it washes this Steelers game out.

Nah. There's no wash. LOL  Doesn't work that way. 

I wasn't "pulling out" anything.  Just pointing out something you were clearly ignorant of. 
Others have already pointed out the other teams we've beaten that were in the same playoff hunt as your team two weeks ago.  Also - bengals say 'hello.'

Leonard Fournette must be licking his chops after seeing what Dion Lewis did to you guys a couple weeks ago.

Again just look at the strength of schedule for both teams and then look at the win losses.  It doesn't take a mastermind to figure out these two teams are not dat off from one another.

Strength of Schedule! Strength of Schedule! Strength of Schedule! I can’t speak for the rest on here, but that’s not going to make me take you or your ‘back into the playoffs’ team seriously.

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I think these bills fans are looking for validation.

(01-06-2018, 02:41 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:32 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Come on man! Do you watch Games outside of the ills? We owned the NFC, spanked Watson, Wilson, Big Ben, etc. Pretty sure the Steelers are #2 seed. You guys are coming off as a little slooow!

First off you never played Watson, Savage played both games(week 1 starter than Watson torn ACL).  Second Wilson lost by less than a td traveling out east which is always impossible.  I'll give you the big Ben thing 5 picks and all but dude your strength of schedule says it all.  You did not play anyone tough

Before I even answer your points directly, I want to emphasize we beat more teams with winning records (4-Pittsburgh, Seattle, Chargers and Baltimore) than the Bills (2-Atlanta and KC).  Any further discussion on this point is within this context of your spectacular wrongness.

As to your point above, we DID play Watson in week one.  He rode the pines in the first half, and played the entire second half.  He put up one touchdown and got sacked four times, threw an INT.  There were several other plays he somehow escaped pressure and completed passes.  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/b...100htx.htm  If you want to blame us for Houston's bad decision, fine, but don't say we didn't play against him.

As for Wilson traveling east, the game wasn't as close as the final score indicated.  Twice we had double digit leads on Seattle.  Don't hand me that stuff about him traveling west, either.  The game was moved to 4 pm.

It's awfully benevolent of you to give us credit for the 5 INTs we got on Big Ben.

But strength of schedule says nothing for your point, when we actually beat twice the number of winning teams as you did.

(01-06-2018, 02:49 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Nah. There's no wash. LOL  Doesn't work that way. 

I wasn't "pulling out" anything.  Just pointing out something you were clearly ignorant of. 
Others have already pointed out the other teams we've beaten that were in the same playoff hunt as your team two weeks ago.  Also - bengals say 'hello.'

Leonard Fournette must be licking his chops after seeing what Dion Lewis did to you guys a couple weeks ago.

Again just look at the strength of schedule for both teams and then look at the win losses.  It doesn't take a mastermind to figure out these two teams are not dat off from one another.

On that notion  - I actually predicted a 23-16 Jags victory featuring plenty of FGs in a prior thread.  While it's conceivable that the Jags could win big, I expect your team to have a decent gameplan to keep it competitive. 
Just my gut feeling on the matter.

(01-06-2018, 02:35 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]This is third time one of you clowns came making a fool of yourself with this. LOL

So that's the game you keep you going to.  One game all year that you beat a playoff team.  But yet you're world beaters what about getting manhandled by the titans.  I kinda think it washes this Steelers game out.

You guys keep asking the same stupid questions, so you get the same answers. Besides, Bullseye already answered this in more detail, but you keep ignoring it.

(01-06-2018, 02:41 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:32 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Come on man! Do you watch Games outside of the ills? We owned the NFC, spanked Watson, Wilson, Big Ben, etc. Pretty sure the Steelers are #2 seed. You guys are coming off as a little slooow!

First off you never played Watson, Savage played both games(week 1 starter than Watson torn ACL).  Second Wilson lost by less than a td traveling out east which is always impossible.  I'll give you the big Ben thing 5 picks and all but dude your strength of schedule says it all.  You did not play anyone tough

I've never seen a group of fans be as wrong as often as the Bills fans have this week. What is this nonsense? I'm pretty sure that I saw the Jags defense harass him. He only did marginally better than Savage. You may not want to count it because he didn't start, but the Jags defense gave it to Watson just as they did Savage. 

Your comment about they losing by less than a TD shows you didn't actually watch the game. The Jags were up 27-10 going into the 4th quarter. Wilson utterly dominated throughout the game, and he lucked out with TWO plays that resulted in TDs. The Jaguars defense shut Wilson down for practically all but TWO plays. I'm 100% confident you didn't watch this game or you wouldn't have defended Wilson's performance.

You don't have a choice but to "give us Big Ben". This defense controlled that game like they'll control the game tomorrow. 

The more and more you guys talk, the more and more I know you haven't watched the Jaguars play this year.

(01-06-2018, 02:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:19 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously?  You had the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL this year.  With that being said you have only 1 more win than the bills.  Your team has beat up on a very weak afc south with no luck or watson. (Well not the titans they fleeced you twice) Can you please show me one legit team you have beat seriously how many playoff teams did you beat this year I'm curious?

We beat Pittsburgh 30-9 in Pittsburgh.  They are the #2 seed in the AFC.  Does that count?

We beat the Chargers.  They finished with the same record as you and put up 50+ points on you.  Does that count?  It should, because the win over the Chargers allowed you to win a tiebreaker over them and sneak into the playoffs.

We beat Baltimore.   See above excluding the points.

We beat Seattle-who finished 9-7 but just out of the playoffs.

The three teams above all finished with winning records and all missed the playoffs because in part, of losses to the Jaguars.  

In fact, we beat more winning teams (4) than you did (2-Atlanta and KC)

But forget playoff teams for a moment.

We beat Cincy.  You didn't, and neither did Baltimore, which enabled you to sneak into the playoffs.

I can understand your ignorance on these matters if they were locked away in things called books.  But this information is only a click away.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/t...x/2017.htm


You act as if you beat a slew of playoff teams.  You didn't. 

You beat two playoff teams-Atlanta and KC.  Both when they were mired in slumps.

No matter what you think of those teams, statistically you had the 2nd weakest schedule in the NFL. That is indisputable fact. Tout the Steelers win all you want, that indisputable fact will never change.

17-13 Bills win
You heard it here first

Strength of schedule?!

Seems desperate. How about point differential? That’s usually a good indicator of how good a team is....

Bills fans are looking more and more desperate as each day passes. Thank god they’ll be gone around 4 on Sunday never to return.

(01-06-2018, 02:53 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-06-2018, 02:49 PM)Dabillz Wrote: [ -> ]Again just look at the strength of schedule for both teams and then look at the win losses.  It doesn't take a mastermind to figure out these two teams are not dat off from one another.

On that notion  - I actually predicted a 23-16 Jags victory featuring plenty of FGs in a prior thread.  While it's conceivable that the Jags could win big, I expect your team to have a decent gameplan to keep it competitive. 
Just my gut feeling on the matter.

I agree I said this game is going be be a boring low scoring affair.  I don't see more than 40 points being scored.  Truthfully this game is going to come down to Taylor and Bortles because both coaches ate going to gameplay for the run and make not qbs be qbs.

Hypothetically speaking, what if the bills win Sunday? You gonna finally show Tom Brady and B.B. who the boss is?

(01-06-2018, 02:50 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Strength of Schedule! Strength of Schedule!  Strength of Schedule!  I can’t speak for the rest on here, but that’s not going to make me take you or your ‘back into the playoffs’ team seriously.

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I think these bills fans are looking for validation.

It's easy to brag about strength of schedule when you have to play the #1 seed Patriots twice a year. If you look at strength of victory though the Bills and Jags are virtually the same: .396 versus .394.