(02-08-2019, 09:11 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2019, 07:35 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] Lol. "The media is not biased and the enemy of the People" followed by item after item of biased anti-Trump propaganda. Excellent work!
Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it propaganda. Facts are facts--that was the important part. The analysis is not what I was after.
Facts are what you perceive them to be through the filter of the messenger and lense of your personal biases.
(02-08-2019, 10:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2019, 09:11 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it propaganda. Facts are facts--that was the important part. The analysis is not what I was after.
Facts are what you perceive them to be through the filter of the messenger and lense of your personal biases.
No, facts are facts, the ability to accept them are filtered through the lens of our personal biases.
(02-08-2019, 10:53 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2019, 10:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Facts are what you perceive them to be through the filter of the messenger and lense of your personal biases.
No, facts are facts, the ability to accept them are filtered through the lens of our personal biases.
When I can tell you only what I want you to know then I control your "facts."
(02-09-2019, 12:25 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2019, 10:53 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]No, facts are facts, the ability to accept them are filtered through the lens of our personal biases.
When I can tell you only what I want you to know then I control your "facts."
Just because I don't know all the facts does not change the facts, just my perception of them.
Saw a good video of hers pointing out the problems with corporate lobbying. I get why she is so unpopular round here now...
(02-09-2019, 01:25 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (02-09-2019, 12:25 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]When I can tell you only what I want you to know then I control your "facts."
Just because I don't know all the facts does not change the facts, just my perception of them.
Exactly, if I control your perception of the facts then I shape your reality.
(02-09-2019, 06:09 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Saw a good video of hers pointing out the problems with corporate lobbying. I get why she is so unpopular round here now...
Did you also get the one with her bold face lie about her proposal?
(02-09-2019, 06:47 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-09-2019, 06:09 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Saw a good video of hers pointing out the problems with corporate lobbying. I get why she is so unpopular round here now...
Did you also get the one with her bold face lie about her proposal?
Don't leave us hanging. what lie did she tell?
(02-09-2019, 07:37 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (02-09-2019, 07:23 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Don't leave us hanging. what lie did she tell?
Enjoy!
https://www.countable.us/articles/21478-...w-deal.amp
That article's a pretty big stretch.
Inskeep used the word "intervention."
Spending money is one type of intervention.
So are new regulations.
So is stricter enforcement of existing regulations.
Later AOC insists she's not talking about government "taking over" stuff. Because "intervention" could mean so many different things, these statements are not necessarily inconsistent.
(02-09-2019, 11:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (02-09-2019, 07:37 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Enjoy!
https://www.countable.us/articles/21478-...w-deal.amp
That article's a pretty big stretch.
Inskeep used the word "intervention."
Spending money is one type of intervention.
So are new regulations.
So is stricter enforcement of existing regulations.
Later AOC insists she's not talking about government "taking over" stuff. Because "intervention" could mean so many different things, these statements are not necessarily inconsistent.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/ocasio-c...faq-2019-2
C'mon man, keep offer those True Conservative justifications for more leftism.
(02-10-2019, 12:44 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (02-09-2019, 11:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]That article's a pretty big stretch.
Inskeep used the word "intervention."
Spending money is one type of intervention.
So are new regulations.
So is stricter enforcement of existing regulations.
Later AOC insists she's not talking about government "taking over" stuff. Because "intervention" could mean so many different things, these statements are not necessarily inconsistent.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/ocasio-c...faq-2019-2
C'mon man, keep offer those True Conservative justifications for more leftism.
That one's better.
I agree that's a serious gaffe and I bet someone on the AOC team meant it sincerely.
You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.
(02-13-2019, 09:58 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.
The Right is helping her to become a legend so I don't believe she'll be a one-termer, but it is weird how women scary the heck out of right-wingers.
(02-13-2019, 10:01 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2019, 09:58 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.
The Right is helping her to become a legend so I don't believe she'll be a one-termer, but it is weird how women scary the heck out of right-wingers.
As much as I hate to agree with you, there is a large degree of truth in the idea that if she does get a second term, it will be entirely the right's fault for making her look like a savior to Democrats. I've already seen links on various social media feeds with articles endorsing a Constitutional amendment to lower or remove the age requirements for holding the Presidency purely so that she can run. If the right would just shut up and let her keep talking herself into a hole, that wouldn't be happening.
(02-13-2019, 09:58 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.
I don't see how she can lose her primary in 2020. Her district is full of liberal idiots. Oddly enough, she may not even be the biggest issue for the democratic congress with their growing crop of anti semitic congresswomen.
With Newsome cancelling the California train project due to its ridiculous cost and time frame, it will be a really hard sell for AOC and her purge of commercial aircraft.
Finally, AOC's staff literally took the page down once it was criticized. Cocaine Mitch is going to call a vote on this and make these people get on the record, as he should. Let this be a lesson that you don't submit "ideas and dreams" as bills if you aren't ready to vote on them!
(02-13-2019, 10:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2019, 09:58 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]You guys are just straight terrified of her. The 24/7 coverage on Fox News and the numerous "discredit her by calling her an idiot" memes popping up from the right over and over and over again confirm it. You guys just keep running scared and trying to convince yourselves that she's some sort of threat. Those of us watching from afar will continue to laugh right up until she loses her primary in 2020 and the GOP looks like the real idiots for expending so much energy on a one-termer.
I don't see how she can lose her primary in 2020. Her district is full of liberal idiots. Oddly enough, she may not even be the biggest issue for the democratic congress with their growing crop of anti semitic congresswomen.
With Newsome cancelling the California train project due to its ridiculous cost and time frame, it will be a really hard sell for AOC and her purge of commercial aircraft.
Finally, AOC's staff literally took the page down once it was criticized. Cocaine Mitch is going to call a vote on this and make these people get on the record, as he should. Let this be a lesson that you don't submit "ideas and dreams" as bills if you aren't ready to vote on them!
I'd have to go digging for the article, but I have seen at least one from the MSM saying that Democrats were looking for someone to run against her in the 2020 primary, complete with those good old off-the-record quotes. If she keeps doing the things she's doing and they are largely ignored, she's just another nameless, faceless first-term rep with lots of big ideas and no quantifiable action, which makes her an easy target. If she keeps being portrayed by the right as some kind of antichrist, it emboldens her supporters on the left to see her as a savior for the Democratic Party...which she's not, although I wouldn't complain if she were to become one. With Trump's outfit running a far-right GOP and the Cortez-led "democratic socialists" running the Democrats, it might finally piss off enough of us in the middle for a third party to emerge.
(02-13-2019, 10:11 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (02-13-2019, 10:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see how she can lose her primary in 2020. Her district is full of liberal idiots. Oddly enough, she may not even be the biggest issue for the democratic congress with their growing crop of anti semitic congresswomen.
With Newsome cancelling the California train project due to its ridiculous cost and time frame, it will be a really hard sell for AOC and her purge of commercial aircraft.
Finally, AOC's staff literally took the page down once it was criticized. Cocaine Mitch is going to call a vote on this and make these people get on the record, as he should. Let this be a lesson that you don't submit "ideas and dreams" as bills if you aren't ready to vote on them!
I'd have to go digging for the article, but I have seen at least one from the MSM saying that Democrats were looking for someone to run against her in the 2020 primary, complete with those good old off-the-record quotes. If she keeps doing the things she's doing and they are largely ignored, she's just another nameless, faceless first-term rep with lots of big ideas and no quantifiable action, which makes her an easy target. If she keeps being portrayed by the right as some kind of antichrist, it emboldens her supporters on the left to see her as a savior for the Democratic Party...which she's not, although I wouldn't complain if she were to become one. With Trump's outfit running a far-right GOP and the Cortez-led "democratic socialists" running the Democrats, it might finally piss off enough of us in the middle for a third party to emerge.
Your dream of a legit 3rd party is the same dream that the GND is. Is Trump really that far right?
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