(09-27-2019, 06:50 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]What do you guys think of the way the White House tried to hide the transcript of the phone call? Apparently, they moved it from the usual location that would hold transcripts of phone calls to a server that was highly restricted. Why would they try to hide it like that? Did they know they had a problem if that phone call leaked out?
Because previous transcripts with other leaders were leaked.
(09-27-2019, 07:05 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 06:50 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]What do you guys think of the way the White House tried to hide the transcript of the phone call? Apparently, they moved it from the usual location that would hold transcripts of phone calls to a server that was highly restricted. Why would they try to hide it like that? Did they know they had a problem if that phone call leaked out?
Because previous transcripts with other leaders were leaked.
Okay, and why would they not want this particular one to leak?
(09-27-2019, 07:44 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 07:05 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Because previous transcripts with other leaders were leaked.
Okay, and why would they not want this particular one to leak?
Why in the hell would you want any conversation with a world leader to leak? This isn't a normal thing.
(09-27-2019, 07:51 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 07:44 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, and why would they not want this particular one to leak?
Why in the hell would you want any conversation with a world leader to leak? This isn't a normal thing.
Agreed. This isn't normal
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...2683309056
(09-27-2019, 07:51 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 07:44 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, and why would they not want this particular one to leak?
Why in the hell would you want any conversation with a world leader to leak? This isn't a normal thing.
Did they try to bury all Trump's conversations with world leaders, or just this one?
Normally, they put the transcripts of these conversations on a server that people in the State Department can see, because it helps them do their job. This one was moved to the top secret secure server. Why this one?
(09-27-2019, 09:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 07:51 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Why in the hell would you want any conversation with a world leader to leak? This isn't a normal thing.
Did they try to bury all Trump's conversations with world leaders, or just this one?
Normally, they put the transcripts of these conversations on a server that people in the State Department can see, because it helps them do their job. This one was moved to the top secret secure server. Why this one?
Link provide below for explanation. This whole thing is like a bad movie sequel where the big star from the original (Putin) doesn't come back so they get a different, less accomplished, actor to step in as the replacement in almost exactly the same role. The Whistleblower is the Steele Dossier and Ukraine is Russia. More Collusion! More Crime! More Collaboration! Bigger than ever before! (Spoiler Alert: Contains same lack of proof too!)
(09-27-2019, 09:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 07:51 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Why in the hell would you want any conversation with a world leader to leak? This isn't a normal thing.
Did they try to bury all Trump's conversations with world leaders, or just this one?
Normally, they put the transcripts of these conversations on a server that people in the State Department can see, because it helps them do their job. This one was moved to the top secret secure server. Why this one?
It's also a striking similarity to the root cause of the "Lock her up!" chants.
(09-27-2019, 09:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 07:51 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Why in the hell would you want any conversation with a world leader to leak? This isn't a normal thing.
Did they try to bury all Trump's conversations with world leaders, or just this one?
Normally, they put the transcripts of these conversations on a server that people in the State Department can see, because it helps them do their job. This one was moved to the top secret secure server. Why this one?
You need to understand how these conversations are recorded. The White House has several layers of communications people that fall under "White House Communications". They range from all branches of the military, intelligence specialists, and a scattering of alphabet agencies. All conversations are recorded for the safety and security of the president, not to spy. While conversations are being held, the "experts" are taking care to decide whether or not to classify those conversations and to what level. The initial system is one that collects notes in a repository until all members involved in the convo have dictated their notes and classification has been assigned. Once classified, all dictations are removed/transfered to the "High-side" classified side. Those conversation that require additional protection is transferred to a Special Access Program system that a select few have access to and require TPI (two-person integrity). All this to say, #1, this wasn't a "top-secret server" which by the way doesn't exist, this was the SAP system. #2, the administration has been doing this for over a year because of the random White House leaks. FYI, all information entered and accessed on the SAP system is logged heavily by not only the IT department but by security officials and cleared users that have a verifiable and read-in need-to-know.
(09-27-2019, 09:33 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 09:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Did they try to bury all Trump's conversations with world leaders, or just this one?
Normally, they put the transcripts of these conversations on a server that people in the State Department can see, because it helps them do their job. This one was moved to the top secret secure server. Why this one?
You need to understand how these conversations are recorded. The White House has several layers of communications people that fall under "White House Communications". They range from all branches of the military, intelligence specialists, and a scattering of alphabet agencies. All conversations are recorded for the safety and security of the president, not to spy. While conversations are being held, the "experts" are taking care to decide whether or not to classify those conversations and to what level. The initial system is one that collects notes in a repository until all members involved in the convo have dictated their notes and classification has been assigned. Once classified, all dictations are removed/transfered to the "High-side" classified side. Those conversation that require additional protection is transferred to a Special Access Program system that a select few have access to and require TPI (two-person integrity). All this to say, #1, this wasn't a "top-secret server" which by the way doesn't exist, this was the SAP system. #2, the administration has been doing this for over a year because of the random White House leaks. FYI, all information entered and accessed on the SAP system is logged heavily by not only the IT department but by security officials and cleared users that have a verifiable and read-in need-to-know.
I thought he put it on Hillary's closet box to make sure no one but the Axis of Evil had access to it?
Lol, Hillary's Closet Box would be a great lesbian punk band name.
(09-27-2019, 09:35 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 09:33 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]You need to understand how these conversations are recorded. The White House has several layers of communications people that fall under "White House Communications". They range from all branches of the military, intelligence specialists, and a scattering of alphabet agencies. All conversations are recorded for the safety and security of the president, not to spy. While conversations are being held, the "experts" are taking care to decide whether or not to classify those conversations and to what level. The initial system is one that collects notes in a repository until all members involved in the convo have dictated their notes and classification has been assigned. Once classified, all dictations are removed/transfered to the "High-side" classified side. Those conversation that require additional protection is transferred to a Special Access Program system that a select few have access to and require TPI (two-person integrity). All this to say, #1, this wasn't a "top-secret server" which by the way doesn't exist, this was the SAP system. #2, the administration has been doing this for over a year because of the random White House leaks. FYI, all information entered and accessed on the SAP system is logged heavily by not only the IT department but by security officials and cleared users that have a verifiable and read-in need-to-know.
I thought he put it on Hillary's closet box to make sure no one but the Axis of Evil had access to it?
Lol, Hillary's Closet Box would be a great lesbian punk band name.
Just more fear-mongering by the left and trying to push this evil, nefarious "thing" that the general public is not aware of. I am enjoying how all of this is unraveling already and beginning to turn attention to the other side that apparently loves to project.
Hmm, sounds like a special movie that both intrigues me and makes me
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(09-27-2019, 09:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 07:51 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Why in the hell would you want any conversation with a world leader to leak? This isn't a normal thing.
Did they try to bury all Trump's conversations with world leaders, or just this one?
Normally, they put the transcripts of these conversations on a server that people in the State Department can see, because it helps them do their job. This one was moved to the top secret secure server. Why this one?
Here's a link the MSN, hardly a Trump Strognhold, explaining that this call isn't all that different from their SOP.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...ar-AAHUnST
(09-27-2019, 09:56 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 09:44 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]hahahaha hyphen?!
Kind of comical. His tweets are like a squeak toy for you all. Get it, boy...go get it.
Classic. Can't even poke fun at a tweet anymore.
(09-27-2019, 10:05 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 09:56 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of comical. His tweets are like a squeak toy for you all. Get it, boy...go get it.
Classic. Can't even poke fun at a tweet anymore.
I wish he'd tweet less, but the rage it invokes on the left is kinda enjoyable.
(09-27-2019, 09:56 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 09:44 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]hahahaha hyphen?!
Kind of comical. His tweets are like a squeak toy for you all. Get it, boy...go get it.
Agreed. His tweets are comical.
(09-27-2019, 09:57 AM)Gabe Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 09:44 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]hahahaha hyphen?!
Remember when it was unpresidential to wear a tan suit and use a selfie stick? Those were the days.
I don't care if you show up wearing a clown costume so long as you are working. The last 8-years showed that presidential is just code word for "smoke and mirrors". This POTUS didn't shop at Men's Wearhouse or have a Hartmarx made... add to the impeach list!
(09-27-2019, 09:33 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 09:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Did they try to bury all Trump's conversations with world leaders, or just this one?
Normally, they put the transcripts of these conversations on a server that people in the State Department can see, because it helps them do their job. This one was moved to the top secret secure server. Why this one?
You need to understand how these conversations are recorded. The White House has several layers of communications people that fall under "White House Communications". They range from all branches of the military, intelligence specialists, and a scattering of alphabet agencies. All conversations are recorded for the safety and security of the president, not to spy. While conversations are being held, the "experts" are taking care to decide whether or not to classify those conversations and to what level. The initial system is one that collects notes in a repository until all members involved in the convo have dictated their notes and classification has been assigned. Once classified, all dictations are removed/transfered to the "High-side" classified side. Those conversation that require additional protection is transferred to a Special Access Program system that a select few have access to and require TPI (two-person integrity). All this to say, #1, this wasn't a "top-secret server" which by the way doesn't exist, this was the SAP system. #2, the administration has been doing this for over a year because of the random White House leaks. FYI, all information entered and accessed on the SAP system is logged heavily by not only the IT department but by security officials and cleared users that have a verifiable and read-in need-to-know.
You're not contradicting anything in the redacted whistleblower report.
The author says he understands how the system usually works, and that multiple people protested that this was being handled in an unusual way. He says that people who knew more about the call than he did argued with each other, some saying that nothing in the call had a national security sensitivity, but they lost the argument for the moment and it was being treated as if it did have national security sensitivity. We know now that it did not. Looks like an attempted cover-up to me.
(09-27-2019, 10:06 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (09-27-2019, 10:05 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Classic. Can't even poke fun at a tweet anymore.
I wish he'd tweet less, but the rage it invokes on the left is kinda enjoyable.
I agree but who is enraged by this?
I was merely poking fun at him.