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(10-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 10:27 AM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]On point. Thank you. I feel sometimes it doesn't make sense to explain it to some of fans who can't get past the emotional part of it but when you really look at everything it is all there. 

Then it also crazy, because it seems like our front office has been trying to do the opposite for years. At one point we kept trying to get diamonds in the rough from smaller schools. Now its like if someone is confident and kind of flashy they call that being a diva and a locker room cancer. 

If the players is doing what he is supposed to do on the field and doesn't have a domestic issues off field why not keep him to help win?

Everyone always references the Patriots but they have completely different situation with arguably the GOAT at QB and a very good coach but they pretty much always take chance on risky players. It really doesn't seem as hard as the gms make it seem
Jesus [BLEEP] Christ. What part do some of you on here not understand of HIM not wanting to be HERE? What part of HIM requesting a trade to no longer be HERE do you guys not understand?

Again, Khan publicly goes out and says "I'll make you THE highest paid player at your position" and yet he STILL didn't want to be here?

[BLEEP]. Some of you are dense as [BLEEP]. He was highly, highly unprofessional in Houston. He throws a [BLEEP] [BLEEP] temper tantrum over a challenge not being made, puts his hands on his coach, then proceeds to DROP what looked to be a pick six to help out his team.

He didn't want to be here. He would have drawn out his baby back injury [BLEEP] as much as he possibly could. And all more than likely comes from the fact that he was told to be what? A professional.

Stick to fantasy football folks. I forget. It's players > teams now.

[BLEEP].

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Bleep bleep bleep lol

Don't bring fantasy football into this. I'm still not over Mahomes injury.
(10-17-2019, 12:29 PM)rocdee Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-17-2019, 10:56 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]Did you not read the quote?

"The Jaguars have a lot of high character, good culture guys but they were drowned out at times by the flamboyant, quotable, followable, shareable antics of guys like Ramsey, Smith – and last year, running back Leonard Fournette. The removal of Ramsey and Smith – and Fournette’s apparent conversion – should help clean up a locker room that wasn’t cleaning up after itself."

Let me spell it out: If Calais is some great locker room guy, then why was the locker room largely a mess w/r/t being 'bad'? Why couldn't he get those guys in line?

Here's the spelled out response: if the audience is not receptive, the message being broadcast means diddly-poo.

Ever had your mind dead-set on something, and chose to act counter to advice offered from wiser folks in your circle? Same thing.
(10-17-2019, 01:56 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-17-2019, 01:51 PM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]In your opinion they didn't deserve one (even though all of these situations aren't at all the same).  In my opinion it should show him that we are willing to sign (what we consider) our core players.
And this is the issue. They are believing the wrong guys are the core players.

Yan should have been one of the first ones to get a new contract considering he plays a premium position and the price tag for a DE is only going to go up the longer you wait. What would be top 3 money today may only be top 12 money in 2 years.

out of the 3 (Yan, Ramsey, Jack) in this discussion, who was the first one to be publicly offered a deal?

They flippin' tried. When it fell through, they made an offer to another of the three. He accepted. The next offer likely has to wait until the next season for cap reasons. Factor in that we get a year of production on the cheap for someone who may in fact merit top 3 money, why are we bellyaching?
(10-18-2019, 11:38 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-17-2019, 12:29 PM)rocdee Wrote: [ -> ]Let me spell it out: If Calais is some great locker room guy, then why was the locker room largely a mess w/r/t being 'bad'? Why couldn't he get those guys in line?

Here's the spelled out response: if the audience is not receptive, the message being broadcast means diddly-poo.

Ever had your mind dead-set on something, and chose to act counter to advice offered from wiser folks in your circle? Same thing.

rocdee is a troll that obviously is someone who can't have anything spelled out for him cuz his mind is dead set on being a tool
(10-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 10:27 AM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]On point. Thank you. I feel sometimes it doesn't make sense to explain it to some of fans who can't get past the emotional part of it but when you really look at everything it is all there. 

Then it also crazy, because it seems like our front office has been trying to do the opposite for years. At one point we kept trying to get diamonds in the rough from smaller schools. Now its like if someone is confident and kind of flashy they call that being a diva and a locker room cancer. 

If the players is doing what he is supposed to do on the field and doesn't have a domestic issues off field why not keep him to help win?

Everyone always references the Patriots but they have completely different situation with arguably the GOAT at QB and a very good coach but they pretty much always take chance on risky players. It really doesn't seem as hard as the gms make it seem
Jesus [BLEEP] Christ. What part do some of you on here not understand of HIM not wanting to be HERE? What part of HIM requesting a trade to no longer be HERE do you guys not understand?

Again, Khan publicly goes out and says "I'll make you THE highest paid player at your position" and yet he STILL didn't want to be here?

[BLEEP]. Some of you are dense as [BLEEP]. He was highly, highly unprofessional in Houston. He throws a [BLEEP] [BLEEP] temper tantrum over a challenge not being made, puts his hands on his coach, then proceeds to DROP what looked to be a pick six to help out his team.

He didn't want to be here. He would have drawn out his baby back injury [BLEEP] as much as he possibly could. And all more than likely comes from the fact that he was told to be what? A professional.

Stick to fantasy football folks. I forget. It's players > teams now.

[BLEEP].

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

+1000
(10-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 10:27 AM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]On point. Thank you. I feel sometimes it doesn't make sense to explain it to some of fans who can't get past the emotional part of it but when you really look at everything it is all there. 

Then it also crazy, because it seems like our front office has been trying to do the opposite for years. At one point we kept trying to get diamonds in the rough from smaller schools. Now its like if someone is confident and kind of flashy they call that being a diva and a locker room cancer. 

If the players is doing what he is supposed to do on the field and doesn't have a domestic issues off field why not keep him to help win?

Everyone always references the Patriots but they have completely different situation with arguably the GOAT at QB and a very good coach but they pretty much always take chance on risky players. It really doesn't seem as hard as the gms make it seem
Jesus [BLEEP] Christ. What part do some of you on here not understand of HIM not wanting to be HERE? What part of HIM requesting a trade to no longer be HERE do you guys not understand?

Again, Khan publicly goes out and says "I'll make you THE highest paid player at your position" and yet he STILL didn't want to be here?

[BLEEP]. Some of you are dense as [BLEEP]. He was highly, highly unprofessional in Houston. He throws a [BLEEP] [BLEEP] temper tantrum over a challenge not being made, puts his hands on his coach, then proceeds to DROP what looked to be a pick six to help out his team.

He didn't want to be here. He would have drawn out his baby back injury [BLEEP] as much as he possibly could. And all more than likely comes from the fact that he was told to be what? A professional.

Stick to fantasy football folks. I forget. It's players > teams now.

[BLEEP].

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
You ever been fed up at some point in time? My point is the Front offices keeps making terrible decisions allowing our good proven young and veteran players to go elsewhere. Did Jalen not try to negotiate his contract to get a new deal and they told him, they were not going to do it but resign Bortles, Myles and others before him. 

He did want to be here but they did not show him they wanted him until it was to late. Why would Khan wait do this after Jalen publicly announced he wanted to be traded. He realized they were taking him for granted when ever other team in the league would sign him long term with no problem.

The issue I have is that, yall continually try to [BLEEP] on Jalen when you should be mad at the organization for not locking down the proven players that we already have all while still being a team that might not make the playoffs. All the decisions they have made have us in the same situation we've been in for pretty much the majority of our existence. 

All I'm saying is to look at the reason behind it, you expect the players to be one way but do you not expect anything from the front office? Telvin retired, Jalen wanted out and Allen Robinson signed elsewhere after we almost went to the super bowl. Why does this keep happening? Blind loyalty to the organization, demand more from them, they are the problem not the players..smh
(10-18-2019, 02:02 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]He did want to be here but they did not show him they wanted him until it was to late. Why would Khan wait do this after Jalen publicly announced he wanted to be traded. He realized they were taking him for granted when ever other team in the league would sign him long term with no problem.

In other words, they disrespected him by not paying him two years early? It isn't disrespectful to expect the player to fulfill their contract.
(10-18-2019, 02:02 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus [BLEEP] Christ. What part do some of you on here not understand of HIM not wanting to be HERE? What part of HIM requesting a trade to no longer be HERE do you guys not understand?

Again, Khan publicly goes out and says "I'll make you THE highest paid player at your position" and yet he STILL didn't want to be here?

[BLEEP]. Some of you are dense as [BLEEP]. He was highly, highly unprofessional in Houston. He throws a [BLEEP] [BLEEP] temper tantrum over a challenge not being made, puts his hands on his coach, then proceeds to DROP what looked to be a pick six to help out his team.

He didn't want to be here. He would have drawn out his baby back injury [BLEEP] as much as he possibly could. And all more than likely comes from the fact that he was told to be what? A professional.

Stick to fantasy football folks. I forget. It's players > teams now.

[BLEEP].

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
You ever been fed up at some point in time? My point is the Front offices keeps making terrible decisions allowing our good proven young and veteran players to go elsewhere. Did Jalen not try to negotiate his contract to get a new deal and they told him, they were not going to do it but resign Bortles, Myles and others before him. 

He did want to be here but they did not show him they wanted him until it was to late. Why would Khan wait do this after Jalen publicly announced he wanted to be traded. He realized they were taking him for granted when ever other team in the league would sign him long term with no problem.

The issue I have is that, yall continually try to [BLEEP] on Jalen when you should be mad at the organization for not locking down the proven players that we already have all while still being a team that might not make the playoffs. All the decisions they have made have us in the same situation we've been in for pretty much the majority of our existence. 

All I'm saying is to look at the reason behind it, you expect the players to be one way but do you not expect anything from the front office? Telvin retired, Jalen wanted out and Allen Robinson signed elsewhere after we almost went to the super bowl. Why does this keep happening? Blind loyalty to the organization, demand more from them, they are the problem not the players..smh

Jalen was on the same negotiation schedule everyone else was, he just couldn't be man enough to live by it.
(10-18-2019, 02:02 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus [BLEEP] Christ. What part do some of you on here not understand of HIM not wanting to be HERE? What part of HIM requesting a trade to no longer be HERE do you guys not understand?

Again, Khan publicly goes out and says "I'll make you THE highest paid player at your position" and yet he STILL didn't want to be here?

[BLEEP]. Some of you are dense as [BLEEP]. He was highly, highly unprofessional in Houston. He throws a [BLEEP] [BLEEP] temper tantrum over a challenge not being made, puts his hands on his coach, then proceeds to DROP what looked to be a pick six to help out his team.

He didn't want to be here. He would have drawn out his baby back injury [BLEEP] as much as he possibly could. And all more than likely comes from the fact that he was told to be what? A professional.

Stick to fantasy football folks. I forget. It's players > teams now.

[BLEEP].

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
You ever been fed up at some point in time? My point is the Front offices keeps making terrible decisions allowing our good proven young and veteran players to go elsewhere. Did Jalen not try to negotiate his contract to get a new deal and they told him, they were not going to do it but resign Bortles, Myles and others before him. 

He did want to be here but they did not show him they wanted him until it was to late. Why would Khan wait do this after Jalen publicly announced he wanted to be traded. He realized they were taking him for granted when ever other team in the league would sign him long term with no problem.

The issue I have is that, yall continually try to [BLEEP] on Jalen when you should be mad at the organization for not locking down the proven players that we already have all while still being a team that might not make the playoffs. All the decisions they have made have us in the same situation we've been in for pretty much the majority of our existence. 

All I'm saying is to look at the reason behind it, you expect the players to be one way but do you not expect anything from the front office? Telvin retired, Jalen wanted out and Allen Robinson signed elsewhere after we almost went to the super bowl. Why does this keep happening? Blind loyalty to the organization, demand more from them, they are the problem not the players..smh

Every [BLEEP] day I wake up bro. Every [BLEEP] day I wake up. . . 

Fans [BLEEP] on a player who faked an injury, showed his [BLEEP], disrespected his coach on the sideline during the same game he dropped a pick six and then followed it up with requesting a trade, dragged out said fake back injury, gained public support from the owner of the team with him literally saying he would essentially break the bank or his back to make him filthy rich at this position?

Yeah, nah... no reason to [BLEEP] on him at all man. No reason to [BLEEP] on him at all. . . 

We already know the reason behind it. 

Jalen is a diva. He acted like a diva from the giddy up. Made a big [BLEEP] out of himself showing up with a brink truck during training camp, professes it wasn't about money, but about respect. Made an even bigger [BLEEP] out of himself during week two on the sideline with his altercation with Marrone. Had a sit down with Tom Coughlin. Didn't like the fact that he was probably told to stop acting like a punk [BLEEP] [BLEEP], to tighten up and be professional since he was a face of this franchise. And he didn't like it. 

That's it in a nutshell. Anybody with eyes can see that [BLEEP]. A blind man could even smell the [BLEEP] that was spewing out of Jalen's mouth too. 

Is the organization perfect? Hell no. Do they deserve some fault here? Sure. . . to an extent. But Jalen went way overboard. He went into the deep end. He got what he wanted. And when he pulls this same exact [BLEEP] over the next 26 games in Los Angeles I can't wait for a lot of us to be on here simply saying. . . "Told you so".
(10-18-2019, 08:42 AM)rocdee Wrote: [ -> ]just here to say that all our announcers suck. Sexton, Frangie, I can't stand any of them.

Liked the nickname, Marble-mouth, for Boselli.
(10-18-2019, 02:02 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus [BLEEP] Christ. What part do some of you on here not understand of HIM not wanting to be HERE? What part of HIM requesting a trade to no longer be HERE do you guys not understand?

Again, Khan publicly goes out and says "I'll make you THE highest paid player at your position" and yet he STILL didn't want to be here?

[BLEEP]. Some of you are dense as [BLEEP]. He was highly, highly unprofessional in Houston. He throws a [BLEEP] [BLEEP] temper tantrum over a challenge not being made, puts his hands on his coach, then proceeds to DROP what looked to be a pick six to help out his team.

He didn't want to be here. He would have drawn out his baby back injury [BLEEP] as much as he possibly could. And all more than likely comes from the fact that he was told to be what? A professional.

Stick to fantasy football folks. I forget. It's players > teams now.

[BLEEP].

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
You ever been fed up at some point in time? My point is the Front offices keeps making terrible decisions allowing our good proven young and veteran players to go elsewhere. Did Jalen not try to negotiate his contract to get a new deal and they told him, they were not going to do it but resign Bortles, Myles and others before him. 

He did want to be here but they did not show him they wanted him until it was to late. Why would Khan wait do this after Jalen publicly announced he wanted to be traded. He realized they were taking him for granted when ever other team in the league would sign him long term with no problem.

The issue I have is that, yall continually try to [BLEEP] on Jalen when you should be mad at the organization for not locking down the proven players that we already have all while still being a team that might not make the playoffs. All the decisions they have made have us in the same situation we've been in for pretty much the majority of our existence. 

All I'm saying is to look at the reason behind it, you expect the players to be one way but do you not expect anything from the front office? Telvin retired, Jalen wanted out and Allen Robinson signed elsewhere after we almost went to the super bowl. Why does this keep happening? Blind loyalty to the organization, demand more from them, they are the problem not the players..smh
Jalen himself said it's not about the money.  Are you calling him a liar?  And Telvin got paid. Do you think we should of gave Telvin another raise after his down year? Bortles was on the last year of his deal, that was a bad decision but nobody beats 100%.  They also signed Foles and drafted Minshew.  You said every team in the league would sign him long term with no problem but he still dont have a long term deal yet and a team just gave up 2 1sts and a 4th.  A lot of fail in this post
(10-18-2019, 02:53 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 02:02 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]You ever been fed up at some point in time? My point is the Front offices keeps making terrible decisions allowing our good proven young and veteran players to go elsewhere. Did Jalen not try to negotiate his contract to get a new deal and they told him, they were not going to do it but resign Bortles, Myles and others before him. 

He did want to be here but they did not show him they wanted him until it was to late. Why would Khan wait do this after Jalen publicly announced he wanted to be traded. He realized they were taking him for granted when ever other team in the league would sign him long term with no problem.

The issue I have is that, yall continually try to [BLEEP] on Jalen when you should be mad at the organization for not locking down the proven players that we already have all while still being a team that might not make the playoffs. All the decisions they have made have us in the same situation we've been in for pretty much the majority of our existence. 

All I'm saying is to look at the reason behind it, you expect the players to be one way but do you not expect anything from the front office? Telvin retired, Jalen wanted out and Allen Robinson signed elsewhere after we almost went to the super bowl. Why does this keep happening? Blind loyalty to the organization, demand more from them, they are the problem not the players..smh
Jalen himself said it's not about the money.  Are you calling him a liar?  And Telvin got paid.  Do you think we should of gave Telvin another raise after his down year? Bortles was on the last year of his deal, that was a bad decision but nobody beats 100%.  They also signed Foles and drafted Minshew.  You said every team in the league would sign him long term with no problem but he still dont have a long term deal yet and a team just gave up 2 1sts and a 4th.  A lot of fail in this post

He's definitely a liar.
(10-18-2019, 02:57 PM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 02:53 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Jalen himself said it's not about the money.  Are you calling him a liar?  And Telvin got paid.  Do you think we should of gave Telvin another raise after his down year? Bortles was on the last year of his deal, that was a bad decision but nobody beats 100%.  They also signed Foles and drafted Minshew.  You said every team in the league would sign him long term with no problem but he still dont have a long term deal yet and a team just gave up 2 1sts and a 4th.  A lot of fail in this post

He's definitely a liar.
Most know that, a few dont think he is though lol
There are good leaders, there are good followers, and then there are guys who are just from another planet who are neither (Reggie Williams, Telvin Smith, Jalen Ramsey.)

There's nothing you can do with aliens, man. Can't lead, can't follow, just no good to have around.
(10-18-2019, 02:46 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 02:02 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]You ever been fed up at some point in time? My point is the Front offices keeps making terrible decisions allowing our good proven young and veteran players to go elsewhere. Did Jalen not try to negotiate his contract to get a new deal and they told him, they were not going to do it but resign Bortles, Myles and others before him. 

He did want to be here but they did not show him they wanted him until it was to late. Why would Khan wait do this after Jalen publicly announced he wanted to be traded. He realized they were taking him for granted when ever other team in the league would sign him long term with no problem.

The issue I have is that, yall continually try to [BLEEP] on Jalen when you should be mad at the organization for not locking down the proven players that we already have all while still being a team that might not make the playoffs. All the decisions they have made have us in the same situation we've been in for pretty much the majority of our existence. 

All I'm saying is to look at the reason behind it, you expect the players to be one way but do you not expect anything from the front office? Telvin retired, Jalen wanted out and Allen Robinson signed elsewhere after we almost went to the super bowl. Why does this keep happening? Blind loyalty to the organization, demand more from them, they are the problem not the players..smh

Every [BLEEP] day I wake up bro. Every [BLEEP] day I wake up. . . 

Fans [BLEEP] on a player who faked an injury, showed his [BLEEP], disrespected his coach on the sideline during the same game he dropped a pick six and then followed it up with requesting a trade, dragged out said fake back injury, gained public support from the owner of the team with him literally saying he would essentially break the bank or his back to make him filthy rich at this position?

Yeah, nah... no reason to [BLEEP] on him at all man. No reason to [BLEEP] on him at all. . . 

We already know the reason behind it. 

Jalen is a diva. He acted like a diva from the giddy up. Made a big [BLEEP] out of himself showing up with a brink truck during training camp, professes it wasn't about money, but about respect. Made an even bigger [BLEEP] out of himself during week two on the sideline with his altercation with Marrone. Had a sit down with Tom Coughlin. Didn't like the fact that he was probably told to stop acting like a punk [BLEEP] [BLEEP], to tighten up and be professional since he was a face of this franchise. And he didn't like it. 

That's it in a nutshell. Anybody with eyes can see that [BLEEP]. A blind man could even smell the [BLEEP] that was spewing out of Jalen's mouth too. 

Is the organization perfect? Hell no. Do they deserve some fault here? Sure. . . to an extent. But Jalen went way overboard. He went into the deep end. He got what he wanted. And when he pulls this same exact [BLEEP] over the next 26 games in Los Angeles I can't wait for a lot of us to be on here simply saying. . . "Told you so".

I'm not saying Jalen handled it correctly. He did do some [BLEEP] up [BLEEP] but I am saying that, there is a lot of [BLEEP] that keeps happening, dumb decisions which are causing players to want to move on from here. It happened with others teams as well but we keep doing this at the same time, we continue to lose. I wonder how everyone is going to react if Yan signs somewhere else.

Main point is they stating we need a culture change. I'm saying we do as well but instead of when the players leave, get mad at them for wanting to play for people who are showing that they want win. Get mad the front office for allowing this to become the culture. If yall dont understand that I have nothing left to say
(10-18-2019, 04:44 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 02:46 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Every [BLEEP] day I wake up bro. Every [BLEEP] day I wake up. . . 

Fans [BLEEP] on a player who faked an injury, showed his [BLEEP], disrespected his coach on the sideline during the same game he dropped a pick six and then followed it up with requesting a trade, dragged out said fake back injury, gained public support from the owner of the team with him literally saying he would essentially break the bank or his back to make him filthy rich at this position?

Yeah, nah... no reason to [BLEEP] on him at all man. No reason to [BLEEP] on him at all. . . 

We already know the reason behind it. 

Jalen is a diva. He acted like a diva from the giddy up. Made a big [BLEEP] out of himself showing up with a brink truck during training camp, professes it wasn't about money, but about respect. Made an even bigger [BLEEP] out of himself during week two on the sideline with his altercation with Marrone. Had a sit down with Tom Coughlin. Didn't like the fact that he was probably told to stop acting like a punk [BLEEP] [BLEEP], to tighten up and be professional since he was a face of this franchise. And he didn't like it. 

That's it in a nutshell. Anybody with eyes can see that [BLEEP]. A blind man could even smell the [BLEEP] that was spewing out of Jalen's mouth too. 

Is the organization perfect? Hell no. Do they deserve some fault here? Sure. . . to an extent. But Jalen went way overboard. He went into the deep end. He got what he wanted. And when he pulls this same exact [BLEEP] over the next 26 games in Los Angeles I can't wait for a lot of us to be on here simply saying. . . "Told you so".

I'm not saying Jalen handled it correctly. He did do some [BLEEP] up [BLEEP] but I am saying that, there is a lot of [BLEEP] that keeps happening, dumb decisions which are causing players to want to move on from here. It happened with others teams as well but we keep doing this at the same time, we continue to lose. I wonder how everyone is going to react if Yan signs somewhere else.

Main point is they stating we need a culture change. I'm saying we do as well but instead of when the players leave, get mad at them for wanting to play for people who are showing that they want win. Get mad the front office for allowing this to become the culture. If yall dont understand that I have nothing left to say

Promise?  Okay, I don't understand it.
(10-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2019, 10:27 AM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]On point. Thank you. I feel sometimes it doesn't make sense to explain it to some of fans who can't get past the emotional part of it but when you really look at everything it is all there. 

Then it also crazy, because it seems like our front office has been trying to do the opposite for years. At one point we kept trying to get diamonds in the rough from smaller schools. Now its like if someone is confident and kind of flashy they call that being a diva and a locker room cancer. 

If the players is doing what he is supposed to do on the field and doesn't have a domestic issues off field why not keep him to help win?

Everyone always references the Patriots but they have completely different situation with arguably the GOAT at QB and a very good coach but they pretty much always take chance on risky players. It really doesn't seem as hard as the gms make it seem
Jesus [BLEEP] Christ. What part do some of you on here not understand of HIM not wanting to be HERE? What part of HIM requesting a trade to no longer be HERE do you guys not understand?

Again, Khan publicly goes out and says "I'll make you THE highest paid player at your position" and yet he STILL didn't want to be here?

[BLEEP]. Some of you are dense as [BLEEP]. He was highly, highly unprofessional in Houston. He throws a [BLEEP] [BLEEP] temper tantrum over a challenge not being made, puts his hands on his coach, then proceeds to DROP what looked to be a pick six to help out his team.

He didn't want to be here. He would have drawn out his baby back injury [BLEEP] as much as he possibly could. And all more than likely comes from the fact that he was told to be what? A professional.

Stick to fantasy football folks. I forget. It's players > teams now.

[BLEEP].

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Excuse my density, but you are saying that that had nothing to do with the FO or coaches on THIS team?  Correct me if i am wrong, but i'm just asking for clarity.  I've seen enough post about the player not wanting to be here; but i'm guessing everyone thinks the staff was doing, and did do, everything needed to keep said players needless in wanting anything better.  I know what Khan said and money fixes everything when you have a job complaint.

AND IF I AM INCORRECT. I hopefully will not see anymore post about negativity toward the coaches and/or FO since they are promoting a air tight culture of positivity and leadership in Jacksonville, that will translate to comradery and wins. GO Jags
I'm not sure if anyone stated this or brought it up, but I remember Pete Prisco bringing it up the other day. Ramsey was never voted as a Captain. Our best player, never voted by his peers to be a Captain. That says all we need to know about his presence here. He was liked as a teammate and a dude on the team, but players didn't respect him and didn't see him lead to vote him as a Captain. Telvin was, Poz was, Campbell is, Fournette is, Foles is. I know Telvin may be an outlier because of him quitting on the team this year, but his situation was a little different (so it seems).

I was really hesitant to getting rid of Ramsey, but to the point of this section, he may have truly been a negative effect on our culture being built. #SeeYaAndYourBadBack....
(10-18-2019, 05:43 PM)jvillejagsn1 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure if anyone stated this or brought it up, but I remember Pete Prisco bringing it up the other day. Ramsey was never voted as a Captain. Our best player, never voted by his peers to be a Captain. That says all we need to know about his presence here. He was liked as a teammate and a dude on the team, but players didn't respect him and didn't see him lead to vote him as a Captain. Telvin was, Poz was, Campbell is, Fournette is, Foles is. I know Telvin may be an outlier because of him quitting on the team this year, but his situation was a little different (so it seems).

I was really hesitant to getting rid of Ramsey, but to the point of this section, he may have truly been a negative effect on our culture being built. #SeeYaAndYourBadBack....

We don't know this for sure but I have a feeling he may have had an influence on Telvin and Yan and possibly Fournette. There definitely seems to have been a vibe of "me first" from those guys for a while. Fournette appears to have gotten past it a bit and probably Yan too but I think when people look back on it, trading Ramsey while not necessarily a positive, might be looked at as a start of the culture change Sexton was talking about.
Interesting take as it relates to this thread on Jaguars All Access.  A question was asked to Myles Jack regarding his ejection from a game earlier this season.  His response was that Calais took him aside and talked with him afterwards about putting the team ahead of himself and how that set him straight.  That's what the "culture" has to be about.  Putting the team first rather than the individual.

People can blame coaches, the front office, etc. but the fact of the matter is that it's a team game.  Nobody is above the team.  Certain players just couldn't get that though their thick, childish "me" minds.  Their selfishness can't put the team before themselves.

That kind of thing (the exchange between Calais and Myles) is what the "culture" of the team is all about.
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