Quote:Have they given me reason to?
The "organization?'
Yes. They have.
Khan and Caldwell have done plenty of things to inspire confidence.
I've lost faith in the coaching, but I like much of what I've seen and heard from DC and SK.
Quote:Regardless of posting history, its a valid response and mindset to have.
Why keep a head coach that you have recognized is no longer worthy of being the coach?
Because they don't believe the next head coach is on the roster. Also both Shad and Gus have openly talked about being patient with Gus and giving him a chance to succeed; going back on their word may not reflect the best if they are looking at highly sought after coaches this offseason.
I'm going to echo what a few said and say it depends how this game goes. If we win, and especially if TN wins after, we're only one game out of first. He'd likely be kept.
If we lose, especially of we're blown out, I expect he'll be gone
It will happen at end of the year. And Khan does not have to fire gus. Just not resign him. His contract extension ends at end of season.
Quote:It will happen at end of the year. And Khan does not have to fire gus. Just not resign him. His contract extension ends at end of season.
His contract extension ends after next season
I agree with earlier post that the only way Gus will get fired on 10/4 is if the Colts blow "us" out. This would force Khan to not wait til the end of the season or many fans would stay home rather than attend any more games this year. A coaching change at this time will not turn around this disaster of a season, but it will send a message to the players and loyal fans who don't want to wait until the end of the season.
A coaching change should have already been made and should be made after the Indy game, win or lose. Indy stinks as much as the Jags so a narrow win over them means nothing.
Really they should fire him right now. Every second this young team spends with this loser coach is wasted development. I understand Mr Khan doesn't want to create any negative publicity before his precious London game, so we'll have to settle for October 4th.
There's another possibility that also comes to mind.
For discussion sake, if the Jaguars beat the Colts, there's a great chance that Gus Bradley will be the team's HC for the Bears game 14 days later.
If the Jaguars lose 2 out of 3 ( including the Thursday Night game in Tennessee ) or all 3 games following the bye, I think it's more likely than not that Bradley will be let go following the TNF game in Tennessee. This would give the interim HC the weekend to help set the stage for any changes that need to be made for the Chiefs game and the games that follow.
If the Colts beat the Jaguars in London, all of this is probably a moot point as Bradley likely will be replaced within 48 hours of the time the Colts game ends.
It's hard to imagine that the decision would come down to the results of one game. We already know what we have (or don't have, really) in Bradley, is one more game going to change anybody's mind? I have a bad feeling they stick with him until the end of the season regardless of the outcome of this game.
Quote:It's hard to imagine that the decision would come down to the results of one game. We already know what we have (or don't have, really) in Bradley, is one more game going to change anybody's mind? I have a bad feeling they stick with him until the end of the season regardless of the outcome of this game.
You might be proven correctly. But based on the bye week coming up for the Jaguars following the Colts game and the 10 day period between games after the contest in Tennessee, there are two opportunities for the Jaguars to jump start their season with Doug Marrone or another choice as Interim HC. Based on the season expectations of Shad Khan and Dave Caldwell, I think Gus Bradley is on the verge of running out of time. With the AFC South up for grabs, especially with J.J. Watt's back injury, there's still an opportunity for a turnaround by the Jaguars. But if the team can't get things going soon, it's likely not going to happen with Bradley as HC.
Quote:I think regardless of the outcome of this next game or season for that matter, January 2 is his walking day. A lot can be judged off of just these last three games. I think Dave and Kahn may not want to poison the roster from here on out.
"Regardless" implies you would fire him before a wild card game if we somehow won the division. Just saying.
I would vote for January 2, but refuse to participate in polls with Blank #2 and Corn selections.
Quote:You might be proven correctly. But based on the bye week coming up for the Jaguars following the Colts game and the 10 day period between games after the contest in Tennessee, there are two opportunities for the Jaguars to jump start their season with Doug Marrone or another choice as Interim HC. Based on the season expectations of Shad Khan and Dave Caldwell, I think Gus Bradley is on the verge of running out of time. With the AFC South up for grabs, especially with J.J. Watt's back injury, there's still an opportunity for a turnaround by the Jaguars. But if the team can't get things going soon, it's likely not going to happen with Bradley as HC.
If the decision has already been made, why wait even one more game? Some have speculated that Khan didn't want to interrupt the flow of the London week, and that's very plausible. What I can't buy is that his fate rests with the outcome of one more game. They either want him gone regardless, or he is staying regardless. The only way we'll know, however, is if the unforseen happens, like they win and he's fired or they lose and he's retained.
Something I dont think people think about is how much better this organization looks if we wait to let go of Bradley til end of season.
If we get blown out in IND thats one thing, but we dont have much for in house candidates. Even if your a Marrone supporter, no in season move is drastically changing our outlook. Obviously id prefer the sooner end than latter, but in the grand scheme of things its not a huge deal either way.
Quote:If the decision has already been made, why wait even one more game? Some have speculated that Khan didn't want to interrupt the flow of the London week, and that's very plausible. What I can't buy is that his fate rests with the outcome of one more game. They either want him gone regardless, or he is staying regardless. The only way we'll know, however, is if the unforseen happens, like they win and he's fired or they lose and he's retained.
My guess is the combination of the 0-3 start, with the one sided loss in San Diego being the game that likely sealed Gus Bradley's fate unless the team responses tangibly in a small window, will lead to a coaching change. This is barring a quick major turnaround. The London week probably bought Bradley more time. But with this team's roster ( even considering youth and injuries ), it's hard to envision 0-4 being acceptable to Shad Khan. Dave Caldwell more likely than not will be on the same wave length as Khan if a change is made.
What if Gus goes 8-8? I think that's the better question
Quote:Something I dont think people think about is how much better this organization looks if we wait to let go of Bradley til end of season.
If we get blown out in IND thats one thing, but we dont have much for in house candidates. Even if your a Marrone supporter, no in season move is drastically changing our outlook. Obviously id prefer the sooner end than latter, but in the grand scheme of things its not a huge deal either way.
Being that Doug Marrone went 9-7 with the Bills, their best record since early last decade, I think the mindset of Shad Khan and Dave Caldwell will probably be that they can potentially save the season with Marrone as Interim HC. Especially, since it might only take 8 wins to capture the AFC South Title. Even if the Jaguars don't turn around the season with Marrone, what is the downside to a coaching change in the early or middle of the season? Gus Bradley's overall record and lack of enough tangible progress would have gotten many HCs fired prior to now.
Quote:On a Corn filled day during [Blank #2].
But seriously, I think it'll happen on Black Monday. To me, Bradley lost a lot of credibility with Khan with the way the team looked in San Diego. That was his first chance to show to Khan, Caldwell and the world that he had the team working in the right direction. It was an opponent that they had played every year and they should have been in McCoy's hip pocket the whole game. Didn't happen.
But, Khan is probably smart enough to see that firing a Header in the middle of the season doesn't really solve anything. That, and he doesn't seem to be the reactionary type.
Almost regardless of anything else that happens this season, I think that game is the one that cost Gus his job.
What bothered me the most in San Diego was Gus Bradley's answer to (paraphrase), "How do you plan to improve in the second half?" He replied, "They are playing as good as they can play. We just have to keep building off that." This immediately followed not a bad defensive effort but an apparent lack of one. It was the moment when I finally realized the talent level in Jacksonville can't mask his mistakes anymore.
My opinion will not change until it happens. If we miss the playoffs, Gus Bradley will be punted January 2 . Only fans who never liked him have been calling for it to happen in the middle of the season.
Quote:What if Gus goes 8-8? I think that's the better question
I think he will be back in 2017. That's a major turnaround, that much more considering the 0-3 current situation for the Jaguars. The key for Gus Bradley is to buy enough time to get to 8-8. He desperately needs to lead the Jaguars to victory over the Colts in London. This game means the world, literally and figuratively to Shad Khan.
Quote:Being that Doug Marrone went 9-7 with the Bills, their best record since early last decade, I think the mindset of Shad Khan and Dave Caldwell will probably be that they can potentially save the season with Marrone as Interim HC. Especially, since it might only take 8 wins to capture the AFC South Title. Even if the Jaguars don't turn around the season with Marrone, what is the downside to a coaching change in the early or middle of the season? Gus Bradley's overall record and lack of enough tangible progress would have gotten many HCs fired prior to now.
I couldn't agree more with this. To me, Bradley is a known while Marrone is an unknown. Would rather roll with the unknown at this point.
Quote:If the decision has already been made, why wait even one more game? Some have speculated that Khan didn't want to interrupt the flow of the London week, and that's very plausible. What I can't buy is that his fate rests with the outcome of one more game. They either want him gone regardless, or he is staying regardless. The only way we'll know, however, is if the unforseen happens, like they win and he's fired or they lose and he's retained.
The bye week is the best time for a coaching change. They have to adjust to a lot of changes made by the interim head coach and it gives them an extra week to do that. The Saints specifically chose their bye week to fire Rob Ryan in 2015.
I disagree with the "one more game" idea. Shad and Dave never said, "Waiting until the bye week to fire Gus," or "Give him one more chance to win." They said "Playoffs or bust." (not exact words I know.) So it will be January 2, 2017.