(03-03-2020, 03:10 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]I'm 70% sure he's not on the roster week 1
I'm 91% he is. He's not getting cut, and he's not getting traded without the Jaguars sending Foles and a high draft pick in return for a used plunger from the locker room toilets. If Caldwell somehow suckers a GM into giving up something of value, anything, even a seventh-round pick without us having to send a pick along with Foles as compensation for someone else eating his contract, then he becomes a strong contender for GM of the year.
Rumors of a trade that would send Yannick and Foles to Indy? Not sure if someone made that up or not but it makes sense.
(03-03-2020, 10:31 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2020, 09:56 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]The issue wasn't WANTING to sign Foles. The issue was paying a band-aid 22m per season. Especially when nobody else was competing for his service.
Remember how quickly late last year the narrative, both from Foles supporters on this board and in the media, went from, "We wanted him to be the unquestioned starter," to, "There were 3-4 other teams competing for his services."?
No?
Maybe I just tuned obvious smoke being directed at my hindquarters out, but I don't remember anybody offering up serious discussion about a competitive market for his services.
I did to a lot of crazy things in college, but I don't think the gray matter is that damaged.
(03-03-2020, 03:23 PM)DangerousBoy Wrote: [ -> ]The Factory of Shadness continues... This team is a circus, and their are no teams that would be interested in trading for Files when Brady, Rivers, Newton, Carr, Prescott, Winston, Tannehill, Mariota, et cetera are either available for FA or trade.
And we can't act like this front office will learn from this mistake. They literally did this two years ago with Blake Bortles!
Holy spit-take, batman!
This is fantastic.
(03-03-2020, 07:59 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Rumors of a trade that would send Yannick and Foles to Indy? Not sure if someone made that up or not but it makes sense.
Not sure I like that, other that their QB will inevitably be injured and we can run 27 right at Yan.
I'm still thinking a package deal to Chicago.
(03-03-2020, 07:59 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Rumors of a trade that would send Yannick and Foles to Indy? Not sure if someone made that up or not but it makes sense.
Trade Yan to Indy?! Boy that would be the worst move ever. Yan leaves the Jags and the terrorizes them like Freeney for 7 years.
(03-04-2020, 02:19 PM)Hard_Eight Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2020, 07:59 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Rumors of a trade that would send Yannick and Foles to Indy? Not sure if someone made that up or not but it makes sense.
Not sure I like that, other that their QB will inevitably be injured and we can run 27 right at Yan.
I'm still thinking a package deal to Chicago.
Tampa might give up a 3rd for him. Arians likes vet QBs and he's so old he needs to win immediately. Foles would be a good fit in that offense since Winston's turnover problem was the single biggest factor in their season last year.
(03-04-2020, 03:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (03-04-2020, 02:19 PM)Hard_Eight Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure I like that, other that their QB will inevitably be injured and we can run 27 right at Yan.
I'm still thinking a package deal to Chicago.
Tampa might give up a 3rd for him. Arians likes vet QBs and he's so old he needs to win immediately. Foles would be a good fit in that offense since Winston's turnover problem was the single biggest factor in their season last year.
Maybe, I hear they're high on Bridgewater.
There's so many guys out there. Dave is going to have to work a miracle to move him.
(03-04-2020, 04:54 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/...87457?s=21
So Jags aren’t actively shopping Foles but teams are calling the Jags about his availability. We may just be able to get out from under his contract after all if he’s genuinely generating trade interest.
There's probably a lot of teams looking at our piss poor management and wondering if they can actually put lipstick on a pig and get away with it. Can't say I blame teams looking around. You'll only have to hand over a late round draft pick anyway. And if you have the cap space and a QB problem like say Chicago? Why not take a shot?
I'm coming to this thread a bit late, but I really can't see how this happens.
With the other options out there, I don't think there will be a team desperate enough to give us something AND take on Foles ridiculous contract. If there is, then more fool them.
And if another team isn't prepared to give us something for him, then why would we want to move him? (and it would be madness to give away an asset to sweeten a deal) Yes, I know it's a big contract, but we don't really need to offload it at the moment. We've got some cap room now and (thanks to Jalen and Yannick) we haven't got to tie up any long-term contracts. Yes, we could use the money overpay for a different free agent, but I don't see the urgency when we're realistically not going to be competitive in 2020.
Most likely outcome - Foles stays as an expensive backup and sees out another year of that contract. Then maybe we look to move him next season.
(03-05-2020, 08:56 AM)Andy G Wrote: [ -> ]I'm coming to this thread a bit late, but I really can't see how this happens.
With the other options out there, I don't think there will be a team desperate enough to give us something AND take on Foles ridiculous contract. If there is, then more fool them.
And if another team isn't prepared to give us something for him, then why would we want to move him? (and it would be madness to give away an asset to sweeten a deal) Yes, I know it's a big contract, but we don't really need to offload it at the moment. We've got some cap room now and (thanks to Jalen and Yannick) we haven't got to tie up any long-term contracts. Yes, we could use the money overpay for a different free agent, but I don't see the urgency when we're realistically not going to be competitive in 2020.
Most likely outcome - Foles stays as an expensive backup and sees out another year of that contract. Then maybe we look to move him next season.
The contract will be subsidised by the Jags making him a cheap option for teams and he can still be cut next year very easily by them.
I'm pretty certain he will be moved, most likely in the next few weeks too.
I'm dead against the idea of sweetening the pot by giving someone a draft pick to take Foles off our hands... I've reached the point where I'm like a hoarder with draft picks. They are the ultimate symbol of hope. Too bad it's usually a hollow symbol.
Anyway, I think eventually Foles will get traded, with a team giving us a 'conditional 7th' for him... so basically nothing. Which is fine by me.
If Bortles can fetch a 6th round pick, then surely someone who was SB mvp can get something in return. In reality his contract really isn’t that bad.
(03-05-2020, 09:11 AM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]I'm dead against the idea of sweetening the pot by giving someone a draft pick to take Foles off our hands... I've reached the point where I'm like a hoarder with draft picks. They are the ultimate symbol of hope. Too bad it's usually a hollow symbol.
Anyway, I think eventually Foles will get traded, with a team giving us a 'conditional 7th' for him... so basically nothing. Which is fine by me.
Why do you think they got that extra 4th rounder.....
(03-05-2020, 09:24 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2020, 09:11 AM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]I'm dead against the idea of sweetening the pot by giving someone a draft pick to take Foles off our hands... I've reached the point where I'm like a hoarder with draft picks. They are the ultimate symbol of hope. Too bad it's usually a hollow symbol.
Anyway, I think eventually Foles will get traded, with a team giving us a 'conditional 7th' for him... so basically nothing. Which is fine by me.
Why do you think they got that extra 4th rounder.....
I was thinking the same thing. They'll package that Bouye 4th to sweeten the deal for someone to take Foles
(03-05-2020, 10:31 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2020, 09:24 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you think they got that extra 4th rounder.....
I was thinking the same thing. They'll package that Bouye 4th to sweeten the deal for someone to take Foles
The team taking Foles in only on the hook for his salary next year, so ~15 million. There's no need to sweeten a deal, the deal would already be good for them just giving us a mid round pick. The Jags are the ones hit by the contract, not the trading team.
(03-05-2020, 08:56 AM)Andy G Wrote: [ -> ] Most likely outcome - Foles stays as an expensive backup and sees out another year of that contract. Then maybe we look to move him next season.
I agree that this is likely.
(03-05-2020, 11:03 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ][quote pid='1286831' dateline='1583412960']
Most likely outcome - Foles stays as an expensive backup and sees out another year of that contract. Then maybe we look to move him next season.
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It is the most likely outcome.
A close second would be: some fairly competitive team loses their QB to injury and makes a desperation deal to acquire Foles sometime between August and October.