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After that first season it seems like he lost a lot of explosiveness
(05-01-2020, 12:24 AM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Fournette has the power and the speed but lacks the vision.   He just constantly chooses the wrong holes.(no pun)  The team either needs to convert him to a strictly north/south runner.

He also lacks balance. He's too easy to bring down whether it's the backfield, at the line, or in the secondary, get a hand near his legs and he's going down.
Fournette is the most average rb you can find. Nothing really impressive or negative about anything he does...
Why do I get the feeling that as soon as he is with a different team, he has his best season ever?
(05-02-2020, 10:48 AM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Why do I get the feeling that as soon as he is with a different team,  he has his best season ever?

#becausejaguars
(05-02-2020, 10:48 AM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Why do I get the feeling that as soon as he is with a different team,  he has his best season ever?

Who was the last Jags first round bust to ball out somewhere else?
(05-02-2020, 02:43 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-02-2020, 10:48 AM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Why do I get the feeling that as soon as he is with a different team,  he has his best season ever?

Who was the last Jags first round bust to ball out somewhere else?

Probably Reggie Nelson.
I always thought they relied too heavily on Fournette to propel the offense. Maybe that was a Coughlin thing. Whatever the case, he isn't good enough for that. Before the last game last season when I heard Fournette was out, I quipped that the offense will probably look great with them not feeling compelled to rely on him. Well, the offense looked pretty productive that day. And I'm not really saying we need to get rid of Fournette, just don't have him be the centerpiece of the offense.
(05-02-2020, 10:48 AM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Why do I get the feeling that as soon as he is with a different team,  he has his best season ever?

Unless he goes to a team with a premium O-line where he will be the starter that's not gonna happen.
(05-02-2020, 03:18 PM)Jagsfan4life9/28/82 Wrote: [ -> ]I always thought they relied too heavily on Fournette to propel the offense. Maybe that was a Coughlin thing. Whatever the case, he isn't good enough for that. Before the last game last season when I heard Fournette was out, I quipped that the offense will probably look great with them not feeling compelled to rely on him. Well, the offense looked pretty productive that day. And I'm not really saying we need to get rid of Fournette, just don't have him be the centerpiece of the offense.

Right.  He doesn't stink, but neither is he Earl Campbell.  The game caller needs to stop pretending he is.
(05-02-2020, 10:48 AM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Why do I get the feeling that as soon as he is with a different team,  he has his best season ever?

Because you remember Carlos Hyde.
(05-02-2020, 03:03 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-02-2020, 02:43 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Who was the last Jags first round bust to ball out somewhere else?

Probably Reggie Nelson.

He had a few decent seasons, but it's not like he turned into Rod Woodson when he left. It's not like the Jaguars have players they release that show they were first round talents misused, most of the guys the Jags release go on to be average at best. The Jags have just done a terrible job drafting for the last 15 years.
(05-02-2020, 04:19 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-02-2020, 03:03 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]Probably Reggie Nelson.

He had a few decent seasons, but it's not like he turned into Rod Woodson when he left. It's not like the Jaguars have players they release that show they were first round talents misused, most of the guys the Jags release go on to be average at best. The Jags have just done a terrible job drafting for the last 15 years.

Only one i can think of is Reggie Nelson.
(05-02-2020, 04:19 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-02-2020, 03:03 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]Probably Reggie Nelson.

He had a few decent seasons, but it's not like he turned into Rod Woodson when he left. It's not like the Jaguars have players they release that show they were first round talents misused, most of the guys the Jags release go on to be average at best. The Jags have just done a terrible job drafting for the last 15 years.

Oh, I agree, but he definitely had his best seasons elsewhere. A couple good ones, too. 38 INTs is not small feat, but I was just saying the only first rounder that I thought of that did a lot better.
#27 is a beast. If he sticks around this season, we will be glad. You can’t force the run like the jags have been trying to do. These days, you have to pass first to open up the run. I would be more worried about our passing game which I hope is a lot better
(05-02-2020, 05:24 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]#27 is a beast. If he sticks around this season, we will be glad. You can’t force the run like the jags have been trying to do. These days,  you have to pass first to open up the run. I would be more worried about our passing game which I hope is a lot better

Fournette isn’t a beast. He has poor vision, lacks explosion (the type we saw his rookie year), and is easily taken down. What, exactly, does he do well? 

I remember reading everyone praising him coming out of LSU. I saw the same stuff there, absent the toughness he lost after his rookie season, that he does in the NFL. I think he’s better-than-average, but I’m not breaking the bank for him.
(05-02-2020, 06:05 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-02-2020, 05:24 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]#27 is a beast. If he sticks around this season, we will be glad. You can’t force the run like the jags have been trying to do. These days,  you have to pass first to open up the run. I would be more worried about our passing game which I hope is a lot better

Fournette isn’t a beast. He has poor vision, lacks explosion (the type we saw his rookie year), and is easily taken down. What, exactly, does he do well? 

I remember reading everyone praising him coming out of LSU. I saw the same stuff there, absent the toughness he lost after his rookie season, that he does in the NFL. I think he’s better-than-average, but I’m not breaking the bank for him.

I am not so sure about him being better than average. He seems pretty average to me.
fournette is not the problem
Let’s cut ties with Gumbo and be done with it.
The problem with Fournette is he needs a lead blocker. You have ro give him a full back or an H back to clear the way for him. He is not a single back offense type of back. He is an old school"I" back.
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