(04-27-2020, 07:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (04-27-2020, 07:02 PM)PAJag Wrote: [ -> ]Ok like I said the list is short so maybe a 1/4 of the league has 2 stud level pass rushers. And DeMarcus Lawrence is not on the same level as Allen
And I know Calais was bigger than his 6 sacks but it’s just the constant overreaction on this board of oh no now are pass rush is terrible like no we had a 21 year old rookie last year with immense upside produce 10 1/2 sacks in 60% of snaps and go to a pro bowl more sacks than Bosa who everyone thinks is the best thing since sliced bread. Allen has 18 sack type of potential. And yan also has the potential for more sacks than he’s produced and he’s definitely gonna be motivated. As does smoot who produced 6 last year and Bryan and Chaisson who is a freak athlete rusher so let’s not act like there won’t be any pass rush
If these players weren’t on the Jags, you would not be saying that. “Hey. I’m a Ravens fan but woooo boy, those Jags pass rushers?! Watch out now!”
1/4 of the league is not a short list anyway. Including the previous 8 duos and the 4 solos, let’s also throw in Bucs, Saints, Vikings... that’s about 15 teams with 1 or more pass rushers.
This pass rush has potential down the line but it all depends on it Allen continues to develop and Chaisson is a bust. Like another poster said, the amount of maybes on this team may be the most of any team in the NFL. So many unknowns that it’s hard to see all of those “maybes” being “yes” at the end of the year.
They wouldn’t be saying that no matter what pass rushers we have it’s Jacksonville we never get recognized like that. Most people didn’t even know who yannick ngakou was before he asked to get traded I listen to philly sports talk radio every day they said “he might be the best de in the league” when you know damn well they didn’t know who he was a week ago they’re clueless I couldn’t stop laughing at that one
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Not much to talk about after Bartch.
Compare to Bengals, who look like an A draft even if not counting Burrow (slam dunk.)
(04-27-2020, 09:18 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]I think we should add in Foles was 0-4 as a starter so Minshew starting 4 more games this year adds to win% theoretically as well. Foles singlehandedly cost us multiple games
Foles was exposed as a product of Philly's strong system. But he's also brilliant for getting hot at the right times and maximizing his contract value. Kudos to him and his agents for making bank from Jax & Philly.
(04-27-2020, 10:15 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]C
Not much to talk about after Bartch.
Compare to Bengals, who look like an A draft even if not counting Burrow (slam dunk.)
It helps when you have the first pick of every round, lol.
The vast majority of 'experts' call the Jaguars draft a good one.
But, as usual, nobody knows jack [BLEEP] about how any team's draft is really going to grade out. But everybody will still argue about it as if they have any idea.
(04-27-2020, 07:21 PM)PAJag Wrote: [ -> ] (04-27-2020, 07:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]If these players weren’t on the Jags, you would not be saying that. “Hey. I’m a Ravens fan but woooo boy, those Jags pass rushers?! Watch out now!”
1/4 of the league is not a short list anyway. Including the previous 8 duos and the 4 solos, let’s also throw in Bucs, Saints, Vikings... that’s about 15 teams with 1 or more pass rushers.
This pass rush has potential down the line but it all depends on it Allen continues to develop and Chaisson is a bust. Like another poster said, the amount of maybes on this team may be the most of any team in the NFL. So many unknowns that it’s hard to see all of those “maybes” being “yes” at the end of the year.
They wouldn’t be saying that no matter what pass rushers we have it’s Jacksonville we never get recognized like that. Most people didn’t even know who yannick ngakou was before he asked to get traded I listen to philly sports talk radio every day they said “he might be the best de in the league” when you know damn well they didn’t know who he was a week ago they’re clueless I couldn’t stop laughing at that one
You guys got 3 different arguments going
One guy is arguing we are dropping to a bottom 5 unit, which is definitely an overreaction.
One guy is arguing we won’t be as good without some of the pieces we lost. Probably fair.
One guy is arguing we will still be pretty good/ fine this year, We have lots of pieces with potential. Probably also fair.