(01-05-2021, 06:37 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 04:10 AM)Dockerill91 Wrote: [ -> ]Ofcourse. He’s flashed towards the end of the season. If we can give him some help those pressures will become sacks.
Yes, I agree. And in my opinion, the kind of help Allen and Chaisson need is pressure up the middle. That's why a lot of mock drafts have us taking a 3-tech with our second first round pick.
I'm on board with that DT drafting.
If not one of those first three or four picks, then a splash FA signing. Need someone next to Hamilton that is a real threat.
Allen and Chaisson will benefit greatly from an interior disruptor (and from a competent secondary.)
I'd give up our 1st 2nd a 4th for Q Williams. I doubt Jets would do that though
(01-05-2021, 01:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 09:58 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I'd give up our 1st 2nd a 4th for Q Williams. I doubt Jets would do that though
That’s a terrible trade.
I disagree, its our biggest need imo other than QB and he is already becoming one ot the better lineman in the league not to mention his upside is as high as any. Would be huge for our dline. I doubt the Jets would do it anyway
(01-05-2021, 01:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 01:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]That’s a terrible trade.
I disagree, its our biggest need imo other than QB and he is already becoming one ot the better lineman in the league not to mention his upside is as high as any. Would be huge for our dline. I doubt the Jets would do it anyway
They’d do it in a heart beat.
2 top 50 picks and a 4th? This Jags team has so many holes and you wanna give away possibly 2 starters on day 1 and a 4th? Hard pass.
Just sign Leonard Williams and call it a day.
(01-05-2021, 01:18 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 01:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree, its our biggest need imo other than QB and he is already becoming one ot the better lineman in the league not to mention his upside is as high as any. Would be huge for our dline. I doubt the Jets would do it anyway
They’d do it in a heart beat.
2 top 50 picks and a 4th? This Jags team has so many holes and you wanna give away possibly 2 starters on day 1 and a 4th? Hard pass.
Just sign Leonard Williams and call it a day.
This isn't Yawn we are talking about, its gonna take a little more. Williams didnt get traded at the deadline because they wanted at least a 1st
That said I'd like to get Williams. I'd like to get Trey Hendrickson as well
(01-05-2021, 01:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 01:18 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]They’d do it in a heart beat.
2 top 50 picks and a 4th? This Jags team has so many holes and you wanna give away possibly 2 starters on day 1 and a 4th? Hard pass.
Just sign Leonard Williams and call it a day.
This isn't Yawn we are talking about, its gonna take a little more. Williams didnt get traded at the deadline because they wanted at least a 1st
Why are you bringing up Yan? This isn’t about him.
This is about giving up 2 top 50 picks and a 4th..... with a team that has many many holes to fill.
Pay Leonard Williams and use those other top 50 picks to help Lawrence or help the defense with 2 starters.
(01-05-2021, 01:26 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 01:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]This isn't Yawn we are talking about, its gonna take a little more. Williams didnt get traded at the deadline because they wanted at least a 1st
Why are you bringing up Yan? This isn’t about him.
This is about giving up 2 top 50 picks and a 4th..... with a team that has many many holes to fill.
Pay Leonard Williams and use those other top 50 picks to help Lawrence or help the defense with 2 starters.
Leonar Williams might want to stay in NY or go elsewhere. If we are not able to sign him I'd to trade for Q
Q is a lot better than Leonard Williams fwiw.
(01-05-2021, 02:00 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Q is a lot better than Leonard Williams fwiw.
Sure.
But would you give up 2 top 50 picks and 4th for him?
Maybe Barmore is there for our 2nd first rounder.
(01-05-2021, 02:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 02:00 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Q is a lot better than Leonard Williams fwiw.
Sure.
But would you give up 2 top 50 picks and 4th for him?
Maybe Barmore is there for our 2nd first rounder.
Assuming it's a sign and trade and we're guaranteed Q long term, I don't think a 1 in the 20s, a 2, and a 4 is a crazy ask. He's really really damn good.
(01-05-2021, 02:26 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 02:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Sure.
But would you give up 2 top 50 picks and 4th for him?
Maybe Barmore is there for our 2nd first rounder.
Assuming it's a sign and trade and we're guaranteed Q long term, I don't think a 1 in the 20s, a 2, and a 4 is a crazy ask. He's really really damn good.
Fair enough. Not sure I’m willing to give that much draft capital up.
(01-05-2021, 02:45 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 02:26 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Assuming it's a sign and trade and we're guaranteed Q long term, I don't think a 1 in the 20s, a 2, and a 4 is a crazy ask. He's really really damn good.
Fair enough. Not sure I’m willing to give that much draft capital up.
Of course you wouldnt give up a 1st, 2nd, and 4th being you thought giving up only a 2nd and 4th was a terrible trade for one of the best up and coming dlineman in the league. Its comical you say its a terrible trade for the 2nd and 4th I said and you tell Upper youre not sure if you're willing to give up that much draft capital after he added a 1st to it lol
(01-05-2021, 03:00 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 02:45 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Fair enough. Not sure I’m willing to give that much draft capital up.
Of course you wouldnt give up a 1st, 2nd, and 4th being you thought giving up only a 2nd and 4th was a terrible trade for one of the best up and coming dlineman in the league lol
What are you even talking about? I have no clue who you’re referring to.
Edit: I see the confusion. You wrote “1st 2nd and 4th.” I took it as a 1st rounder, 2nd rounder and 4th rounder. Which is way too much.
1 2nd rounder and 1 4th rounder is just fine.
(01-05-2021, 03:03 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 03:00 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Of course you wouldnt give up a 1st, 2nd, and 4th being you thought giving up only a 2nd and 4th was a terrible trade for one of the best up and coming dlineman in the league lol
What are you even talking about? I have no clue who you’re referring to.
Edit: I see the confusion. You wrote “1st 2nd and 4th.” I took it as a 1st rounder, 2nd rounder and 4th rounder. Which is way too much.
1 2nd rounder and 1 4th rounder is just fine.
Gotcha, a little busy and was typing fast. Its why I brought up Yawn who we got a 2nd and 4th.
(01-05-2021, 03:03 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 03:00 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Of course you wouldnt give up a 1st, 2nd, and 4th being you thought giving up only a 2nd and 4th was a terrible trade for one of the best up and coming dlineman in the league lol
What are you even talking about? I have no clue who you’re referring to.
Edit: I see the confusion. You wrote “1st 2nd and 4th.” I took it as a 1st rounder, 2nd rounder and 4th rounder. Which is way too much.
1 2nd rounder and 1 4th rounder is just fine.
I thought he meant that too, and as long as he came with a long term extension I'd strongly consider it. Getting a young, proven top 5 talent on a long term deal would be worth a bottom half 1st, 2nd, and 4th to me. I'd haggle and have it be the Vikings 2nd though.
(01-05-2021, 03:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 03:03 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]What are you even talking about? I have no clue who you’re referring to.
Edit: I see the confusion. You wrote “1st 2nd and 4th.” I took it as a 1st rounder, 2nd rounder and 4th rounder. Which is way too much.
1 2nd rounder and 1 4th rounder is just fine.
Gotcha, a little busy and was typing fast. Its why I brought up Yawn who we got a 2nd and 4th.
Yan.
You must still be typing fast.....
(01-05-2021, 03:30 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2021, 03:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Gotcha, a little busy and was typing fast. Its why I brought up Yawn who we got a 2nd and 4th.
Yan.
You must still be typing fast.....
No, he was right the first time.