I voted yes. Not surprised in the slightest. Still happy as duck.
(12-11-2022, 06:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 06:37 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Glad to watch him show he really wants it, and is progressing quickly. Couldn't be happier, well.. I mean if we snuck into the playoffs I could be a little happier.
this you?
https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1427209
At the time of that post he was more than halfway through a season with 9 TD 10 INTs and playing terrible football.
Your point?
He proceeded to follow that 9 td 10 int stat line up after my post, with 3 more TDs and 7 more INTs.
And after today, this should be the end of this conversation. For ever.
He's our guy, our Franchise QB.
Here's to another 15 years of Lawrence.
(12-11-2022, 06:54 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 06:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]this you?
https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1427209
At the time of that post he was more than halfway through a season with 9 TD 10 INTs and playing terrible football.
Your point?
He proceeded to follow that 9 td 10 int stat line up after my post, with 3 more TDs and 7 more INTs.
My point is that you couldn't wait out the Urban Meyer debacle without trying to peddle a ludicrous narrative that ignored all of the very impressive things Trevor was flashing and the horribleness of his situation in his rookie year. And you were a fool to be so impatient and myopic.
https://twitter.com/ESPNdirocco/status/1...xbADIkBEIg
(12-11-2022, 06:54 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 06:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]this you?
https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1427209
At the time of that post he was more than halfway through a season with 9 TD 10 INTs and playing terrible football.
Your point?
He proceeded to follow that 9 td 10 int stat line up after my post, with 3 more TDs and 7 more INTs.
The point was and remains that you jumped the gun. And now you have to suffer that for the rest of his career because your wrote him off 8 games into his rookie season.
(12-11-2022, 06:54 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 06:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]this you?
https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1427209
At the time of that post he was more than halfway through a season with 9 TD 10 INTs and playing terrible football.
Your point?
He proceeded to follow that 9 td 10 int stat line up after my post, with 3 more TDs and 7 more INTs.
Bro. Just say
“I was very wrong on Trevor”
(12-11-2022, 06:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 06:37 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Glad to watch him show he really wants it, and is progressing quickly. Couldn't be happier, well.. I mean if we snuck into the playoffs I could be a little happier.
this you?
https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1427209
Safe to say we wont be seeing jaguarLVP showing his face around here any time soon LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL
They’ll backpedal like they never called him a bust
Anyone that voted no are impatient morons lol.
(12-11-2022, 07:15 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]They’ll backpedal like they never called him a bust
I didn't, my original post that started this entire discussion was just pointing out issues I saw him having in college, that to me didn't translate to being compared to Luck or Manning. I never said he didn't have talent, I just recognized the fact that he wasn't perfect. That being said tho, I am willing to eat my crow raw/cooked/seasoned/unseasoned or whatever because for the past month and a half he's shown me that not only can he improve in his problem areas, but that he has the potential to be elite.
I'm not sure why anyone on here thinks I wanted it not to work out, I'm a die hard jaguar fan who's been told to wait and see for QBs like Garrard/Leftwich/Gabbert/Bortles and have been dissapointed year after year after year and personally I needed to see it translate first before I jumped head first into believing again.
I don't think it's exactly correct to say "I was wrong" because he clearly had accuracy issues, he clearly had decision making issues amongst other things. But he did show everyone over the past month or two that he has what it takes.
(12-11-2022, 07:50 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone that voted no are impatient morons lol.
I saw somebody, I wont name any names because god knows i'll get banned for one thing or another. But I saw a certain guy who dislikes me make a claim that somehow I hacked the forum or something and voted no a bunch of times.
I found that kinda funny, but tbh I am surprised that this poll is where it is because I definitely think there are more people on this board that believed in him than not, but who knows.
(12-11-2022, 06:54 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 06:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]this you?
https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.ph...pid1427209
At the time of that post he was more than halfway through a season with 9 TD 10 INTs and playing terrible football.
Your point?
He proceeded to follow that 9 td 10 int stat line up after my post, with 3 more TDs and 7 more INTs.
But you knew or should have known he was a rookie in a completely dysfunctional situation.
You knew or should have known (because many on here told you) that rookies need time, coaching, and surrounding talent to develop.
But you were determined to be a reactionary. You were determined to write him off.
It's obvious what your rationale was. But in your zeal to be the smartest guy in the room, you were blind to the talent and potential many of us saw, and bottom line, you were wrong.
Just fess up.
(12-11-2022, 08:20 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 06:54 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]At the time of that post he was more than halfway through a season with 9 TD 10 INTs and playing terrible football.
Your point?
He proceeded to follow that 9 td 10 int stat line up after my post, with 3 more TDs and 7 more INTs.
But you knew or should have known he was a rookie in a completely dysfunctional situation.
You knew or should have known (because many on here told you) that rookies need time, coaching, and surrounding talent to develop.
But you were determined to be a reactionary. You were determined to write him off.
It's obvious what your rationale was. But in your zeal to be the smartest guy in the room, you were blind to the talent and potential many of us saw, and bottom line, you were wrong.
Just fess up.
I don't understand why I have to explain this every time I talk about Lawrence.
I WAS SAYING THE SAME THING WHEN WE ALL THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO BE A JET. This was not a reaction to his rookie season. When we were likely to have the #2 pick I was wanting to take Kyle Pitts or Jamarr Chase. I still would have drafted Lawrence because regardless if I thought the hype was a bit much, he was still the only QB in that class that really peaked my interest for a top 1-2 pick. I wouldn't have gone QB at all in the first round if we picked 2 and the Jets took him. So it's not like I didn't think it was possible he could be good, I just thought the comparisions in college to guys like Luck who were damn near perfect and looked like they had been in the NFL for a few years before they got drafted was a stretch when I watched him at Clemson.
Edit: Also this has nothing to do with wanting to be the smartest guy in the room, I made an observation and got bashed for it. So I responded.
I said he has trouble with accuracy particularly over throwing WRs - Tell me if this wasn't an issue his first season and a half.
I said he makes questionable decisions when faced with adversity or in a close game - 2 goal line ints, multiple ints at the end of games this year, him folding when the bengals came back after we were pounding them last season etc. - Tell me none of that happened.
I pointed out his flaws. He busted his [BLEEP] and got better. Did I doubt him at times? Absolutely. Did he prove my doubt wrong, absolutely. I don't know what else you want me to tell you.
CJB has been very harsh on TL. Trollish, actually. But from what I have read the last couple weeks, he’s come around. We all say stuff on here we regret, were wrong about or a complete moron about. Trust me, I know. But if CJB was convinced TL was bad, and has come around, why not let him slide a bit? Why hold the past to people? I’ve never understood the whole “you wanted “x “ player 5 years ago argument. GM’s get it wrong all the time. Maybe we can shift gears and convert someone else. Maybe the “knees” guy. Carpe diem or whatever his name is.
(12-11-2022, 08:32 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]CJB has been very harsh on TL. Trollish, actually. But from what I have read the last couple weeks, he’s come around. We all say stuff on here we regret, were wrong about or a complete moron about. Trust me, I know. But if CJB was convinced TL was bad, and has come around, why not let him slide a bit? Why hold the past to people? Maybe we can shift gears to that carpe diem guy or whatever the [BLEEP] his name is?
It's okay, let them harp on it. I couldn't be happier that it's turned out for the best. I can't wait until I can start looking forward to playoff football again. Regardless of how we got there. Everybody clumps me in with another group of "haters" as they say but completely ignore that I made correct observations when he was in college that translated into the NFL before he was ever destined to be on our team.
He proved that he wants to be a guy, and he's putting in the work and the results speak for themselves. If that makes me wrong than i'm wrong, big deal I'd rather be wrong and the team do good than be right and be back in QB purgatory.
(12-11-2022, 08:39 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 08:32 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]CJB has been very harsh on TL. Trollish, actually. But from what I have read the last couple weeks, he’s come around. We all say stuff on here we regret, were wrong about or a complete moron about. Trust me, I know. But if CJB was convinced TL was bad, and has come around, why not let him slide a bit? Why hold the past to people? Maybe we can shift gears to that carpe diem guy or whatever the [BLEEP] his name is?
It's okay, let them harp on it. I couldn't be happier that it's turned out for the best. I can't wait until I can start looking forward to playoff football again. Regardless of how we got there. Everybody clumps me in with another group of "haters" as they say but completely ignore that I made correct observations when he was in college that translated into the NFL before he was ever destined to be on our team.
He proved that he wants to be a guy, and he's putting in the work and the results speak for themselves. If that makes me wrong than i'm wrong, big deal I'd rather be wrong and the team do good than be right and be back in QB purgatory.
Just to be clear. I’m not really “on your side”. Just think the whole “you used to say” thing is a bit nonsense. This board has no remorse at times.
I mean...he was our franchise QB regardless. He's a #1 pick and not going anywhere. So even if he was only mediocre...he's still our franchise qb for at least the next 2-3 years.
I doubted him, but I'm a believer now. Wow, this kid's lightbulb came on just like that
Never doubted. Recently raised ceiling however.
(12-11-2022, 08:41 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2022, 08:39 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]It's okay, let them harp on it. I couldn't be happier that it's turned out for the best. I can't wait until I can start looking forward to playoff football again. Regardless of how we got there. Everybody clumps me in with another group of "haters" as they say but completely ignore that I made correct observations when he was in college that translated into the NFL before he was ever destined to be on our team.
He proved that he wants to be a guy, and he's putting in the work and the results speak for themselves. If that makes me wrong than i'm wrong, big deal I'd rather be wrong and the team do good than be right and be back in QB purgatory.
Just to be clear. I’m not really “on your side”. Just think the whole “you used to say” thing is a bit nonsense. This board has no remorse at times.
The most ironic thing about all of the flaming I get, truthfully is that it all started from me posting observations about a QB we all thought we wouldn't be able to draft, followed by moderators calling me names and insulting me like a troll over my opinion. I got trolled, and then was accused of trolling.