(10-30-2022, 02:32 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 02:26 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Nope. Not really. Just seeing everything for what it truly is. It's a shame really.
Oh well. 
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Yeah, I've been wavering on this one for a while, but it's officially time to get our [BLEEP] together. QBs have bad plays, sure, but Lawrence had 1 throw that looked like it came from a first rounder today and that was all. 4.3 YPA. Pathetic
If the Broncos D hadn't been gifting us yards a couple of times we could have been shut out. Both td-drives were full of terrible penalties from the Broncos.
(10-30-2022, 04:19 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 04:15 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: [ -> ]My issue is
Was that defence we saw in the early rounds just a fluke?
Yup, they were living off of a few turnovers. Once the turnovers stopped coming, the real Defense showed up.
Good point
The defence has alot of talent with Walker & Lloyd, Allen
So what is the issue?
First year syndrome with our rookies?
Or is it just str8 up [BLEEP] coaching from caldwell
(10-30-2022, 04:47 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 04:19 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, they were living off of a few turnovers. Once the turnovers stopped coming, the real Defense showed up.
Good point
The defence has alot of talent with Walker & Lloyd, Allen
So what is the issue?
First year syndrome with our rookies?
Or is it just str8 up [BLEEP] coaching from caldwell
Caldwell is pretty bad. He needs to be replaced.
(10-30-2022, 04:25 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 02:32 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, I've been wavering on this one for a while, but it's officially time to get our [BLEEP] together. QBs have bad plays, sure, but Lawrence had 1 throw that looked like it came from a first rounder today and that was all. 4.3 YPA. Pathetic
If the Broncos D hadn't been gifting us yards a couple of times we could have been shut out. Both td-drives were full of terrible penalties from the Broncos.
Lol so you give no credit to the offense today....got it....and I bet you blame the offense for everything too and not the defense....you know a Trever hater when they blame everything on him and can't see when the blame is on the defense or other players...
(10-30-2022, 05:39 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 04:25 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]If the Broncos D hadn't been gifting us yards a couple of times we could have been shut out. Both td-drives were full of terrible penalties from the Broncos.
Lol so you give no credit to the offense today....got it....and I bet you blame the offense for everything too and not the defense....you know a Trever hater when they blame everything on him and can't see when the blame is on the defense or other players...
Do you ever blame Trevor though? You're one of the "defense is to blame" people. It's everything but Trevor.
(10-30-2022, 04:25 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 02:32 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, I've been wavering on this one for a while, but it's officially time to get our [BLEEP] together. QBs have bad plays, sure, but Lawrence had 1 throw that looked like it came from a first rounder today and that was all. 4.3 YPA. Pathetic
If the Broncos D hadn't been gifting us yards a couple of times we could have been shut out. Both td-drives were full of terrible penalties from the Broncos.
LMAO ..you act like we couldn't move the ball without Denver's penalties.... Which is nonsense.... It's not like those penalties happened on 4th down or anything. they were all positive yard plays and then we're just extended.... Literally have no proof that without the penalties we wouldn't still continue to move the ball.... We get it You give the offense zero credit today
I give credit to Etienne. He's why the offense moved the ball. You like to say that Trevor led the team on a 4th quarter lead but the defense squandered it... he threw one completed pass for 25 yards and the rest of the plays were rushes.
(10-30-2022, 05:44 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 04:25 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]If the Broncos D hadn't been gifting us yards a couple of times we could have been shut out. Both td-drives were full of terrible penalties from the Broncos.
LMAO ..you act like we couldn't move the ball without Denver's penalties.... Which is nonsense.... It's not like those penalties happened on 4th down or anything. they were all positive yard plays and then we're just extended.... Literally have no proof that without the penalties we wouldn't still continue to move the ball.... We get it You give the offense zero credit today
Etienne moved the ball. He's a very good player.
There are several problems at the moment. On offence Trevor is playing absolutely abysmal, costly turnovers at crucial moments, over throwing receivers. He’s going to get time due to where he was drafted, but I’m leaning towards bust mainly due to his decision making.
The defence though worries me more though. By my calculations, we have 84m in cap space allocated to the defence. 4 first round picks, 1 high second and 2 high 3rds, and the defence is absolutely terrible. Can’t get sacks, can’t cover, can’t stop the run, giving up long drives at crucial times. It is almost unthinkable that a defence with that much allocated to it can be this bad. They need to have a real think about Caldwell because his scheme absolutely sucks.
(10-30-2022, 05:47 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]I give credit to Etienne. He's why the offense moved the ball. You like to say that Trevor led the team on a 4th quarter lead but the defense squandered it... he threw one completed pass for 25 yards and the rest of the plays were rushes.
OMG
like seriously are we dealing with 5 year olds here.... seriously can't make this crap up... Trevor is the reason why the offense fails...but when we score and take the lead (offense is successful) it's not because of Trevor.... bawaaaha seriously
.gif "Laughing")
.... Side note I bet you're one of the so called fans that were pissed we even drafted ETN....
(10-30-2022, 05:54 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 05:44 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]LMAO ..you act like we couldn't move the ball without Denver's penalties.... Which is nonsense.... It's not like those penalties happened on 4th down or anything. they were all positive yard plays and then we're just extended.... Literally have no proof that without the penalties we wouldn't still continue to move the ball.... We get it You give the offense zero credit today
Etienne moved the ball. He's a very good player.
And.....
(10-30-2022, 05:55 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]There are several problems at the moment. On offence Trevor is playing absolutely abysmal, costly turnovers at crucial moments, over throwing receivers. He’s going to get time due to where he was drafted, but I’m leaning towards bust mainly due to his decision making.
The defence though worries me more though. By my calculations, we have 84m in cap space allocated to the defence. 4 first round picks, 1 high second and 2 high 3rds, and the defence is absolutely terrible. Can’t get sacks, can’t cover, can’t stop the run, giving up long drives at crucial times. It is almost unthinkable that a defence with that much allocated to it can be this bad. They need to have a real think about Caldwell because his scheme absolutely sucks.
Lol abysmal.... seriously abyssal....I think that's a little extreme....I really think you guys are overreacting....or have no clue....step back from the edge of the cliff dude... seriously
(10-30-2022, 06:03 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 05:47 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]I give credit to Etienne. He's why the offense moved the ball. You like to say that Trevor led the team on a 4th quarter lead but the defense squandered it... he threw one completed pass for 25 yards and the rest of the plays were rushes.
OMG like seriously are we dealing with 5 year olds here.... seriously can't make this crap up... Trevor is the reason why the offense fails...but when we score and take the lead (offense is successful) it's not because of Trevor.... bawaaaha seriously .... Side note I bet you're one of the so called fans that were pissed we even drafted ETN....
(10-30-2022, 05:54 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]Etienne moved the ball. He's a very good player.
And.....
Nope. I wasn't for or against it.
But, I have to ask... if Trevor throws for less yards than our RB rushes for, how did Trevor carry this offense?
(10-30-2022, 06:11 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 05:55 PM)Ordar Wrote: [ -> ]There are several problems at the moment. On offence Trevor is playing absolutely abysmal, costly turnovers at crucial moments, over throwing receivers. He’s going to get time due to where he was drafted, but I’m leaning towards bust mainly due to his decision making.
The defence though worries me more though. By my calculations, we have 84m in cap space allocated to the defence. 4 first round picks, 1 high second and 2 high 3rds, and the defence is absolutely terrible. Can’t get sacks, can’t cover, can’t stop the run, giving up long drives at crucial times. It is almost unthinkable that a defence with that much allocated to it can be this bad. They need to have a real think about Caldwell because his scheme absolutely sucks.
Lol abysmal.... seriously abyssal....I think that's a little extreme....I really think you guys are overreacting....or have no clue....step back from the edge of the cliff dude... seriously
I don't think he's playing abysmal. I just don't think he's playing well at all.
(10-30-2022, 01:17 PM)Jags239 Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure why people are already done with Trevor. No one else is coming and saving the QB position this year. He has at least the rest of the year to show something. No reason to make your decision until after the season.
Let me put a different spin on this. Young teams need to learn how to lose. Fear of losing is one of the biggest boogiemen in sports. It causes you to focus on the wrong things and choke. Imo, Trevor's biggest problem is between the ears. He had a two good games, choked hard in Philly, and has look flustered and timid since then. When you've been on a winning team your whole life, you never really need to face your shortcomings. Trevor is finally feeling real pressure... not to win a game, but if he's going to be a failure or not.
He has to find a way to get that monkey of his back and just play football. Sometimes that takes a few years. He definitely doesn't have "it" right now.
If before the season started someone said by Week 9 we would be one game behind the Bucs and Rams I think all of us would have taken that.
Funny old world eh!
(10-30-2022, 06:53 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]If before the season started someone said by Week 9 we would be one game behind the Bucs and Rams I think all of us would have taken that.
Funny old world eh!
Absolutely and there's still a whole nother half of a season to go so a lot can turn around for any team. I'm not saying that will happen to the jags though, we look defeated. It's gotta be so stressful as a team to keep losing games that can be won. A lot of players rethinking their off-season moves on the plane trip back lol!
(10-30-2022, 06:53 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]If before the season started someone said by Week 9 we would be one game behind the Bucs and Rams I think all of us would have taken that.
Funny old world eh!
The only thing is they are both in the opposite Conference than us so it really doesnt matter. If you were to say 1 game behind the Bills and the Chiefs then we are talking
(10-30-2022, 07:01 PM)WhyWouldYouPostThat Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 06:53 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]If before the season started someone said by Week 9 we would be one game behind the Bucs and Rams I think all of us would have taken that.
Funny old world eh!
Absolutely and there's still a whole nother half of a season to go so a lot can turn around for any team. I'm not saying that will happen to the jags though, we look defeated. It's gotta be so stressful as a team to keep losing games that can be won. A lot of players rethinking their off-season moves on the plane trip back lol!
I think it showd how competitive the league is now and that there aren't any really bad teams. Every team is capable of beating another (well maybe not the Chiefs and Bills at the moment)
I also look at the fact we have lead in all the last 5 games so we aren't getting blown out early and getting garbage time points and stats. Sadly I agree that the momentum from us looks to have gone and the team badly needs a win to get some positivity going again.
(10-30-2022, 07:03 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 06:53 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]If before the season started someone said by Week 9 we would be one game behind the Bucs and Rams I think all of us would have taken that.
Funny old world eh!
The only thing is they are both in the opposite Conference than us so it really doesnt matter. If you were to say 1 game behind the Bills and the Chiefs then we are talking
I get you but one has Brady at QB and was a SB contender and the other are current SB holders. Both teams would be considered way ahead of us. Yes they aren't in our conference but just comparing across the league.
Our fan base in such denial.
We really are the “abused spouses” fan base of the league
(10-30-2022, 07:05 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 07:01 PM)WhyWouldYouPostThat Wrote: [ -> ]Absolutely and there's still a whole nother half of a season to go so a lot can turn around for any team. I'm not saying that will happen to the jags though, we look defeated. It's gotta be so stressful as a team to keep losing games that can be won. A lot of players rethinking their off-season moves on the plane trip back lol!
I think it showd how competitive the league is now and that there aren't any really bad teams. Every team is capable of beating another (well maybe not the Chiefs and Bills at the moment)
I also look at the fact we have lead in all the last 5 games so we aren't getting blown out early and getting garbage time points and stats. Sadly I agree that the momentum from us looks to have gone and the team badly needs a win to get some positivity going again.
(10-30-2022, 07:03 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]The only thing is they are both in the opposite Conference than us so it really doesnt matter. If you were to say 1 game behind the Bills and the Chiefs then we are talking
I get you but one has Brady at QB and was a SB contender and the other are current SB holders. Both teams would be considered way ahead of us. Yes they aren't in our conference but just comparing across the league.
Both of those teams are dealing with transition of the salary cap and the inverse draft order. We has the most cap space in the league and we're allocated the most draft capital.
(10-30-2022, 06:12 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 06:03 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]OMG like seriously are we dealing with 5 year olds here.... seriously can't make this crap up... Trevor is the reason why the offense fails...but when we score and take the lead (offense is successful) it's not because of Trevor.... bawaaaha seriously .... Side note I bet you're one of the so called fans that were pissed we even drafted ETN....
And.....
Nope. I wasn't for or against it.
But, I have to ask... if Trevor throws for less yards than our RB rushes for, how did Trevor carry this offense?
(10-30-2022, 06:11 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Lol abysmal.... seriously abyssal....I think that's a little extreme....I really think you guys are overreacting....or have no clue....step back from the edge of the cliff dude... seriously
I don't think he's playing abysmal. I just don't think he's playing well at all.
Lol thanks for completely missing the point