(10-30-2022, 07:21 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 06:12 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Nope. I wasn't for or against it.
But, I have to ask... if Trevor throws for less yards than our RB rushes for, how did Trevor carry this offense?
I don't think he's playing abysmal. I just don't think he's playing well at all.
Lol thanks for completely missing the point
What point? You're right, I don't think I'm seeing your point. What was it again?
this game was so disappointing. I knew after that interception odds were we would lose. I am an optimistic sort, but I have to see the truth that this team is garbage. We spent a ton of money, but its not going to matter long term if Trevor does not develop faster.
(10-30-2022, 07:26 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 07:21 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Lol thanks for completely missing the point
What point? You're right, I don't think I'm seeing your point. What was it again?
The point is when The offense does something good It's not because of Trevor but when the offense does something bad it's because of Trevor... When the defense lets the opponent go 98 yards for a touchdown to take the lead it's Trevor's fault.... When the offense goes down the field to take the lead with minutes left in the 4th quarter It's not because of Trevor.... When the defense blows that lead with 2 minutes left it's because of Trevor.... Get my point now
All I can say is no more excuses. I'm sick of "we can do better" and "we have to improve on...." or any other excuse.
Shut up and win or get out of the way.
I really don't care anymore. At least today I don't. Maybe tomorrow I will. Today they can all piss off.
yeah this performance today was a huge wake up call just to the level of ineptitude on this team. No one ever makes a clutch play. Trevor throws a pick from the 1 yard line. Marvin Jones drops a ball right in his hands in the second half that would have put us in field goal range, and we end up punting.Defense gives up a 99 yard drive and wilts at the most important times. Trevor cannot even get one play in on a two minute drive without a slop interception. The only guy who came to play today was Etienne.
(10-30-2022, 07:41 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]yeah this performance today was a huge wake up call just to the level of ineptitude on this team. No one ever makes a clutch play. Trevor throws a pick from the 1 yard line. Marvin Jones drops a ball right in his hands in the second half that would have put us in field goal range, and we end up punting.Defense gives up a 99 yard drive and wilts at the most important times. Trevor cannot even get one play in on a two minute drive without a slop interception. The only guy who came to play today was Etienne.
This is it though, it's a number of silly mistakes and errors that over the course of 60 minutes cost us the game. Not backbreaking plays just missed opportunities and giving the other team an extra 1st down when they should be punting and this team isn't good enough yet to overcome that.
They should be able to and they need to learn to be able to but this is what happens with young players learning how to win in the NFL. All 32 teams are trying to win.
(10-30-2022, 03:52 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:42 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]The Defense has lost us more games than the QB has.
It’s about even to be honest.
I think a fair argument can be made Trevor was a major reason for losing Houston, Philly, and Today. The other three games the defense were tossed salad
We were ahead with a little over 2 minutes to play. The defense folded like a cheap suit. I guess it's Trevor's fault. Slacker should have been out there playing DB.
Even acknowledging Trevor's poor stretches of play, he ain't the problem. We just don't have enough Jimmies and Joes on the defense yet.
We've lost 6 games by one score or less. We are better. Take a breath, everyone.
(10-30-2022, 07:37 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 07:26 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]What point? You're right, I don't think I'm seeing your point. What was it again?
The point is when The offense does something good It's not because of Trevor but when the offense does something bad it's because of Trevor... When the defense lets the opponent go 98 yards for a touchdown to take the lead it's Trevor's fault.... When the offense goes down the field to take the lead with minutes left in the 4th quarter It's not because of Trevor.... When the defense blows that lead with 2 minutes left it's because of Trevor.... Get my point now
I've never said any of that so your point doesn't make sense to me.
I've given Trevor credit when he's done well. I've also said the defense plays like [BLEEP]. And if Trevor is the reason that we took a 4th quarter lead then I'll say it. But he wasn't.
The defense sucks. We all know this. It's the entire unit. But there are a few of you that NEVER put the blame on Trevor. It's always the defense, but never Trevor.
(10-30-2022, 07:59 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 07:37 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]The point is when The offense does something good It's not because of Trevor but when the offense does something bad it's because of Trevor... When the defense lets the opponent go 98 yards for a touchdown to take the lead it's Trevor's fault.... When the offense goes down the field to take the lead with minutes left in the 4th quarter It's not because of Trevor.... When the defense blows that lead with 2 minutes left it's because of Trevor.... Get my point now
I've never said any of that so your point doesn't make sense to me.
I've given Trevor credit when he's done well. I've also said the defense plays like [BLEEP]. And if Trevor is the reason that we took a 4th quarter lead then I'll say it. But he wasn't.
The defense sucks. We all know this. It's the entire unit. But there are a few of you that NEVER put the blame on Trevor. It's always the defense, but never Trevor.
Exactly, I give Trevor credit when due. With that said he played like [BLEEP] today
(10-30-2022, 07:54 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:52 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]It’s about even to be honest.
I think a fair argument can be made Trevor was a major reason for losing Houston, Philly, and Today. The other three games the defense were tossed salad
We were ahead with a little over 2 minutes to play. The defense folded like a cheap suit. I guess it's Trevor's fault. Slacker should have been out there playing DB.
Even acknowledging Trevor's poor stretches of play, he ain't the problem. We just don't have enough Jimmies and Joes on the defense yet.
We've lost 6 games by one score or less. We are better. Take a breath, everyone.
He's not
the problem, but he is
a problem.
The defense also sucks. Here's to hoping we can get Will Anderson.
(10-30-2022, 07:59 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 07:37 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]The point is when The offense does something good It's not because of Trevor but when the offense does something bad it's because of Trevor... When the defense lets the opponent go 98 yards for a touchdown to take the lead it's Trevor's fault.... When the offense goes down the field to take the lead with minutes left in the 4th quarter It's not because of Trevor.... When the defense blows that lead with 2 minutes left it's because of Trevor.... Get my point now
I've never said any of that so your point doesn't make sense to me.
I've given Trevor credit when he's done well. I've also said the defense plays like [BLEEP]. And if Trevor is the reason that we took a 4th quarter lead then I'll say it. But he wasn't.
The defense sucks. We all know this. It's the entire unit. But there are a few of you that NEVER put the blame on Trevor. It's always the defense, but never Trevor.
Lol no you said it wasn't Trevor that took the lead it was ETN.....
(10-30-2022, 08:10 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 07:59 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]I've never said any of that so your point doesn't make sense to me.
I've given Trevor credit when he's done well. I've also said the defense plays like [BLEEP]. And if Trevor is the reason that we took a 4th quarter lead then I'll say it. But he wasn't.
The defense sucks. We all know this. It's the entire unit. But there are a few of you that NEVER put the blame on Trevor. It's always the defense, but never Trevor.
Lol no you said it wasn't Trevor that took the lead it was ETN.....
Because it was. How did he take the lead in that 4th quarter drive? Did I watch the wrong game?
(10-30-2022, 03:52 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 03:42 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]The Defense has lost us more games than the QB has.
It’s about even to be honest.
I think a fair argument can be made Trevor was a major reason for losing Houston, Philly, and Today. The other three games the defense were tossed salad
Lol the Texans game we had the lead the end of the 4th....not a very big one....but the DEFENSE blew it by allowing Texans to score
I told you all after jags lost to the texans Jags will have #1 pick come end of season. and they probbley won't win another game.
Jags are 2-6 with a positive point differential.
That’s insane. Whatever.
Get an actual outside receiver at some point.
(10-30-2022, 08:12 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 08:10 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Lol no you said it wasn't Trevor that took the lead it was ETN.....
Because it was. How did he take the lead in that 4th quarter drive? Did I watch the wrong game?
Seriously you just don't get it....take your comment "
I give credit to Etienne. He's why the offense moved the ball. You like to say that Trevor led the team on a 4th quarter lead but the defense squandered it... he threw one completed pass for 25 yards and the rest of the plays were rushes". then read my comments after....if you seriously don't get what I'm saying there's no hope...so when the offense does good it's not because of Trevor....when the offense does bad it's because of Trevor....when the defense completely lays down it's because of Trevor.... Trevor should have scored a gazillion points.... instead of REALIZING THAT TREVOR DID HIS JOB BY TAKING THE LEAD IN THE FIRST PLACE AND IT'S THE DEFENSES JOB TO MAKE A STOP.....
(10-30-2022, 08:23 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Jags are 2-6 with a positive point differential.
That’s insane. Whatever.
Get an actual outside receiver at some point.
It really is. Think it's the Jets (before today's games) had scored 4 more points and conceded like 5 less and are 5-2.
The small margins between W's and L's
(10-30-2022, 08:24 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2022, 08:12 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Because it was. How did he take the lead in that 4th quarter drive? Did I watch the wrong game?
Seriously you just don't get it....take your comment "I give credit to Etienne. He's why the offense moved the ball. You like to say that Trevor led the team on a 4th quarter lead but the defense squandered it... he threw one completed pass for 25 yards and the rest of the plays were rushes". then read my comments after....if you seriously don't get what I'm saying there's no hope...so when the offense does good it's not because of Trevor....when the offense does bad it's because of Trevor....when the defense completely lays down it's because of Trevor.... Trevor should have scored a gazillion points.... instead of REALIZING THAT TREVOR DID HIS JOB BY TAKING THE LEAD IN THE FIRST PLACE AND IT'S THE DEFENSES JOB TO MAKE A STOP.....
What in the actual [BLEEP] are you talking about?
If Trevor is the reason that we took the lead then he gets credit. But, today, he wasn't the reason. If the defense sucks, then it's obviously not Trevor's fault.
But, again, if you're going to say that the defense should hold the lead on the last drive of the game, then Trevor should also be able to take the lead on the last drive of the game.
You keep acting as if I'm saying the defense isn't to blame, but only Trevor is. I've never once said that. But you have also never said that Trevor is to blame. It's always the defense.
I'm not expecting Trevor to come out and throw for 300 yards with 3 TDs every game. I'm just tired of his careless mistakes, bad reads, and lack of touch. Having an outside receiver that can get open deep doesn't mean [BLEEP] when Trevor can't even accurately place the ball down there.
What the [BLEEP] is this "Trevor doesn't play defense" garbage on this thread? HE THREW FOR ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE YARDS TODAY. HE HAD A FOUR POINT THREE YPA. HE THREW TWO BONEHEADED INTS.
Jesus [BLEEP] Christ