(11-06-2022, 05:50 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, great team win. There are some that bash Trev too much and a few that give Trev too much credit lol
Today he deserves the credit given. He played very effecient football when it mattered. This is what we needed to see.
The simple truth is he needs to be allowed the time and reps to become his best self.
He's not perfect, but all the signs have been there this year that he can become the franchise guy we've needed for decades if he's allowed the time.
(11-06-2022, 05:31 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:30 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Because it was Trevor and the offense that came down to take the lead in the fourth quarter in those 7 games..... It was the defense that lost the lead
Yeah, it was clearly the D and not 133 yd Trevor that lost the game last week.
You know the game is played for 60 minutes right?
You just said that it’s ok for the defense to allow one of the WORST offenses in the league to go down the field in less than 5 plays to win the game. THAT IS
NOT OK.
Trevor had a subpar game for sure (WAY too aggressive at the goal line), but he and the offense went down and took the lead.
Almost no QB is going to pull off a last minute comeback when the QB has little experience, new coaching staff, new players, new RB, new EVERYTHING. Teams LEARN to do that over time, not instantly like people like you are demanding. Even when that happens, they can’t do it in EVERY SINGLE GAME.
Without a solid defense your team will lose more often than not.
(11-06-2022, 05:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]It's just funny how some of y'all spin it though lol. If we win, it's all because of the team. If we lose, it's all because of Trevor lolololol.
In our 6 losses Trevor has commited 11 turnovers.
In our 3 wins, he has commited 0 turnovers.
This is a QB driven league and we do not have the 1985 bears defense so the team will go as Trevor does. Today was imo his most impressive game. Now let's see if he can string it together next week.
And even with the turnovers the offense took the lead in the fourth with minutes left....and who blew it ...the defense
(11-06-2022, 05:51 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:47 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not going to argue with you today, Trevor has been pitiful most of the season. Today he took a step. Let's leave it there. If you can't see an issue with turning the ball over on the first play multiple times, multiple goal line ints etc that's on you. Today he played extremely well so i'm not going to sit here and explain to you why he's been terrible prior. He had 5 tds and 11 turnovers in our 6 losses. And you blame the defense. Get out.
Lol you don't want to argue because I will school you more than I already have...only a clown wouldn't see that the defense has blown multiple leads late in the 4th....oh but Trevor didn't come back with a minute left.... [BLEEP] he got the lead in the first place....was it the defense that took the lead in those games? No that was the offense...so go sit down.... hopefully you'll be suspended again....god willing
(11-06-2022, 05:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]It's just funny how some of y'all spin it though lol. If we win, it's all because of the team. If we lose, it's all because of Trevor lolololol.
Lol it's comical isn't it
Most of those "game winning drives" you speak of, consisted of 80% run plays and ETN running wild. Again, 5 tds 11 turnovers in our losses. He played great today, he's been very bad in the games we lost. You're worse than the "Trevor haters" because you literally just ride his nuts.
(11-06-2022, 05:53 PM)jrvegeeta Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:31 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, it was clearly the D and not 133 yd Trevor that lost the game last week.
You know the game is played for 60 minutes right?
You just said that it’s ok for the defense to allow one of the WORST offenses in the league to go down the field in less than 5 plays to win the game. THAT IS NOT OK.
Trevor had a subpar game for sure (WAY too aggressive at the goal line), but he and the offense went down and took the lead.
Almost no QB is going to pull off a last minute comeback when the QB has little experience, new coaching staff, new players, new RB, new EVERYTHING. Teams LEARN to do that over time, not instantly like people like you are demanding. Even when that happens, they can’t do it in EVERY SINGLE GAME.
Without a solid defense your team will lose more often than not.
Trevor had a poor game against a top defense. However, only one team had even scored as much as 20 against them this year.
(11-06-2022, 05:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]It's just funny how some of y'all spin it though lol. If we win, it's all because of the team. If we lose, it's all because of Trevor lolololol.
We have been losing becuase of Trevor and the D, it's funny that you haven't been able to realize that lol. Oh and coaching
That's funny considering I'm one of the few around here who keeps constantly saying that there's blame to go all around in the losses.
It’s a team game. Why can’t people see that? Trevor is still developing, but today was a positive step.
(11-06-2022, 05:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:51 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]It's just funny how some of y'all spin it though lol. If we win, it's all because of the team. If we lose, it's all because of Trevor lolololol.
In our 6 losses Trevor has commited 11 turnovers.
In our 3 wins, he has commited 0 turnovers.
This is a QB driven league and we do not have the 1985 bears defense so the team will go as Trevor does. Today was imo his most impressive game. Now let's see if he can string it together next week.
5 of them coming in 1 fluke game skews those numbers. And another 2 of them were on hail marys at the end of the game.
(11-06-2022, 05:57 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:52 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]In our 6 losses Trevor has commited 11 turnovers.
In our 3 wins, he has commited 0 turnovers.
This is a QB driven league and we do not have the 1985 bears defense so the team will go as Trevor does. Today was imo his most impressive game. Now let's see if he can string it together next week.
5 of them coming in 1 fluke game skews those numbers. And another 2 of them were on hail marys at the end of the game.
Okay so let's remove the "fluke" turnovers as you called them. 5 td 4int in 6 games is still pitiful.
(11-06-2022, 06:01 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/nextgenstats/status/...-zCdXxnAGA
BUUUUUST
Makes sense, it was his most impressive game by far. I'm sure most people will point to the Colts/Chargers game but it's far more impressive to be effecient when you need to bring the team back. He played a hell of a game today.
(11-06-2022, 05:55 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]We have been losing becuase of Trevor and the D, it's funny that you haven't been able to realize that lol. Oh and coaching
That's funny considering I'm one of the few around here who keeps constantly saying that there's blame to go all around in the losses.
Lol, says they guy that comments on my post about Trevor lol. You and nejags fan are the 2 that thinks all these losses have been all on the D when in reality Trevor has played a huge part of our losses.
(11-06-2022, 06:00 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:57 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]5 of them coming in 1 fluke game skews those numbers. And another 2 of them were on hail marys at the end of the game.
Okay so let's remove the "fluke" turnovers as you called them. 5 td 4int in 6 games is still pitiful.
You're missing a few rushing TDs as well.
(11-06-2022, 06:04 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 06:00 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Okay so let's remove the "fluke" turnovers as you called them. 5 td 4int in 6 games is still pitiful.
You're missing a few rushing TDs as well.
I thought we were removing stats that didn't benefit our agenda.
(11-06-2022, 06:00 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:57 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]5 of them coming in 1 fluke game skews those numbers. And another 2 of them were on hail marys at the end of the game.
Okay so let's remove the "fluke" turnovers as you called them. 5 td 4int in 6 games is still pitiful.
Teams win all the time with a QB t that turns the ball over 4 times in five games.
What's been pitiful has been the desire to run the guy out of town from some people.
I await his next "pitiful" game for people like you to start talking about drafting QBs again.
(11-06-2022, 06:05 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 06:00 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Okay so let's remove the "fluke" turnovers as you called them. 5 td 4int in 6 games is still pitiful.
Teams win all the time with a QB t that turns the ball over 4 times in five games.
What's been pitiful has been the desire to run the guy out of town from some people.
I await his next "pitiful" game for people like you to start talking about drafting QBs again.
Don't group me in with the people like "mykids" or "JaguarMVP" I want him to succeed, i'm just not going to praise poor play. I will however praise him for his play today, he was excellent.
(11-06-2022, 06:03 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:55 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]That's funny considering I'm one of the few around here who keeps constantly saying that there's blame to go all around in the losses.
Lol, says they guy that comments on my post about Trevor lol. You and nejags fan are the 2 that thinks all these losses have been all on the D when in reality Trevor has played a huge part of our losses.
You'd be wrong, par the course
(11-06-2022, 06:05 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2022, 05:54 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Most of those "game winning drives" you speak of, consisted of 80% run plays and ETN running wild. Again, 5 tds 11 turnovers in our losses. He played great today, he's been very bad in the games we lost. You're worse than the "Trevor haters" because you literally just ride his nuts.
Lol your avatar suits you well...a clown...so when we win it's a team effort....but when it comes to game winning drives it's one player and not Trevor.... seriously dude just shut up
I know being unbiased isn't your strong suit. But you notice how I've said multiple times in this thread already that Trevor had the best game of his career today? I've essentially given him credit today for the win because he EARNED the W. I call it how I see it, when he sucks I point it out and when he's good I point it out. You should try being partial some time, you might like it.