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(10-28-2023, 06:11 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2023, 05:35 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Funny how no one complains about plea deals when they think the information collected from the deal is putting a greater criminal behind bars.
They're just fine in that scenario, LOL
Hopefully a few of these particular idiots taking deals flip some useful info on the ringleader of this criminal conspiracy and the deals function as designed.
I agree with you but most plea deals are for crimes involving only one perp.
If they were only ever used to unravel conspiracies we might not be having this conversation.
Plea deals offered in exchange for testimony against another defendant are incredibly common
These prosecutors cast wide nets for a reason
(10-28-2023, 06:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Plea deals offered in exchange for testimony against another defendant are incredibly common
These prosecutors cast wide nets for a reason
They didn't need to charge them, they could just have them testify, most had already done so. They were overcharged in order to get them to take the plea deal. Now the DA can claim they were all guilty but none of them have admitted any guilt for racketeering charges. Even their apologies didn't admit guilt.
They were probably stupid for taking the plea and maybe they can get it reversed once Trump presents the evidence but they did it so they could avoid the $100,000s in legal fees.
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(10-28-2023, 06:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2023, 06:11 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with you but most plea deals are for crimes involving only one perp.
If they were only ever used to unravel conspiracies we might not be having this conversation.
Plea deals offered in exchange for testimony against another defendant are incredibly common
These prosecutors cast wide nets for a reason
Yep, to offer defendants the choice between confessing to Trumped Up charges and bankruptcy.
(10-29-2023, 02:23 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2023, 06:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Plea deals offered in exchange for testimony against another defendant are incredibly common
These prosecutors cast wide nets for a reason
They didn't need to charge them, they could just have them testify, most had already done so. They were overcharged in order to get them to take the plea deal. Now the DA can claim they were all guilty but none of them have admitted any guilt for racketeering charges. Even their apologies didn't admit guilt.
They were probably stupid for taking the plea and maybe they can get it reversed once Trump presents the evidence but they did it so they could avoid the $100,000s in legal fees.
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There's a little thing called the fifth amendment you might be forgetting about. In a conspiracy case, anyone forced to testify will say that a truthful answer might get them in criminal trouble. But the prosecutor is still unable to prove which member of the conspiracy did which crime. In a plea deal in exchange for testimony, the prosecutor states that there will be no further criminal charges for truthful answers, so the fifth amendment no longer applies.
(10-29-2023, 02:23 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2023, 06:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Plea deals offered in exchange for testimony against another defendant are incredibly common
These prosecutors cast wide nets for a reason
They didn't need to charge them, they could just have them testify, most had already done so. They were overcharged in order to get them to take the plea deal. Now the DA can claim they were all guilty but none of them have admitted any guilt for racketeering charges. Even their apologies didn't admit guilt.
They were probably stupid for taking the plea and maybe they can get it reversed once Trump presents the evidence but they did it so they could avoid the $100,000s in legal fees.
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They were stupid to involve themselves in a scheme to steal a fair election from the American people.
(10-29-2023, 08:46 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2023, 02:23 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]They didn't need to charge them, they could just have them testify, most had already done so. They were overcharged in order to get them to take the plea deal. Now the DA can claim they were all guilty but none of them have admitted any guilt for racketeering charges. Even their apologies didn't admit guilt.
They were probably stupid for taking the plea and maybe they can get it reversed once Trump presents the evidence but they did it so they could avoid the $100,000s in legal fees.
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They were stupid brave to involve themselves in a scheme effort to steal a fair election from the American people.
*protect the People from the fraudulent election.
FTFY.
(10-29-2023, 08:46 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2023, 02:23 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]They didn't need to charge them, they could just have them testify, most had already done so. They were overcharged in order to get them to take the plea deal. Now the DA can claim they were all guilty but none of them have admitted any guilt for racketeering charges. Even their apologies didn't admit guilt.
They were probably stupid for taking the plea and maybe they can get it reversed once Trump presents the evidence but they did it so they could avoid the $100,000s in legal fees.
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They were stupid to involve themselves in a scheme to steal a fair election from the American people.
Seems like the only stupid people here are the ones that actually fell for the big grift and voted for Biden.
It's why we are, where we are..
(10-29-2023, 09:24 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2023, 08:46 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]They were stupid to involve themselves in a scheme to steal a fair election from the American people.
Seems like the only stupid people here are the ones that actually fell for the big grift and voted for Biden.
It's why we are, where we are..
At least we know that there really isn't 81 million of them.
(10-29-2023, 09:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2023, 09:24 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like the only stupid people here are the ones that actually fell for the big grift and voted for Biden.
It's why we are, where we are..
At least we know that there really isn't 81 million of them.
Very true!!
(10-29-2023, 09:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2023, 09:24 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like the only stupid people here are the ones that actually fell for the big grift and voted for Biden.
It's why we are, where we are..
At least we know that there really isn't 81 million of them.
How do you think you "know" that?
The 18-29 y.o. voter turnout soared by 11% over the previous cycle in 2020
Most of them voted for Biden
You can expect it to jump again with similar results next year
(10-29-2023, 09:59 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2023, 09:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]At least we know that there really isn't 81 million of them.
How do you think you "know" that?
The 18-29 y.o. voter turnout soared by 11% over the previous cycle in 2020
Most of them voted for Biden
You can expect it to jump again with similar results next year
Suuurreeee it did, lol.
I'm sure if they arrested everyone in the vicinity of Michael Brown in exchange for their testimony he was a violent criminal, we'd all be ok with it. None of the bleeding heart simpletons would raise an objection. I said this is why they used the RICO law in the first place. One Harvard professor estimated that the average American citizen could be prosecuted for 3 felonies a day, depending on the level of scrutiny. Our most "educated" on this board do not care about exploitation. They do not care about justice... not unless they are told to do so. Hands up don't shoot. Convict Trump. Let's legal, ya'll!
(10-29-2023, 01:20 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sure if they arrested everyone in the vicinity of Michael Brown in exchange for their testimony he was a violent criminal, we'd all be ok with it. None of the bleeding heart simpletons would raise an objection. I said this is why they used the RICO law in the first place. One Harvard professor estimated that the average American citizen could be prosecuted for 3 felonies a day, depending on the level of scrutiny. Our most "educated" on this board do not care about exploitation. They do not care about justice... not unless they are told to do so. Hands up don't shoot. Convict Trump. Let's legal, ya'll!
Did the Ferguson Police arrest witnesses to that shooting? I don't recall any witness being charged with anything. It seems like they offered their (conflicting) testimony willingly. Most of the witnesses said Brown was fighting, and at least one of the ones who said his hands were up said they were up to try to grapple with the cop in close corners.
Lol. No. Obviously they didn't. The point is that you can put people in the vicinity of a crime on trial to in an attempt to get a desired verdict. The law is perfectly capable of being exploited.
You guys believe there was a crime. People are being overcharged and taking plea deals to save time and money. They are being asked to testify against Trump. I will be shocked if any of this testimony actually incriminates him in anything. It's being used as headline fodder to drive a false narrative. We'll see when all these "testimonies" come out. Unless someone says he was intentionally lying to perpetuate electoral fraud, this is all just a trial of public opinion (which the MSM directly sways the results, especially to those who are not capable of challenging what they are told to believe).
(10-29-2023, 03:13 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. No. Obviously they didn't. The point is that you can put people in the vicinity of a crime on trial to in an attempt to get a desired verdict. The law is perfectly capable of being exploited.
You guys believe there was a crime. People are being overcharged and taking plea deals to save time and money. They are being asked to testify against Trump. I will be shocked if any of this testimony actually incriminates him in anything. It's being used as headline fodder to drive a false narrative. We'll see when all these "testimonies" come out. Unless someone says he was intentionally lying to perpetuate electoral fraud, this is all just a trial of public opinion (which the MSM directly sways the results, especially to those who are not capable of challenging what they are told to believe).
Everyone involved knew that there weren't 11,000+ dead people or other obvious voting errors in Georgia. It's made up. It's a mass delusion. Everyone involved should be punished. Start at the top or start at the bottom, doesn't matter.
No. Everyone didn't know that.
(10-29-2023, 11:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]No. Everyone didn't know that.
Everyone with any sort of power or access to evidence knew it.
(10-29-2023, 11:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]No. Everyone didn't know that.
LOL
There is actual audio of the loser of the election alternately begging the GA state official to "find" him votes and trying to coerce him to do so.
It is so pathetic that people still cling to this manufactured election fraud garbage so willingly. It was so transparently made up by a fool who couldn't accept defeat.
(10-30-2023, 11:07 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2023, 11:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]No. Everyone didn't know that.
LOL
There is actual audio of the loser of the election alternately begging the GA state official to "find" him votes and trying to coerce him to do so.
It is so pathetic that people still cling to this manufactured election fraud garbage so willingly. It was so transparently made up by a fool who couldn't accept defeat.
It's your vote that helped put us in all of this mess, and frankly, anyone who listens to the opinions of a jackass who voted for this [BLEEP], is just as stupid.
Enjoy your day!
(10-30-2023, 11:23 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2023, 11:07 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]LOL
There is actual audio of the loser of the election alternately begging the GA state official to "find" him votes and trying to coerce him to do so.
It is so pathetic that people still cling to this manufactured election fraud garbage so willingly. It was so transparently made up by a fool who couldn't accept defeat.
It's your vote that helped put us in all of this mess, and frankly, anyone who listens to the opinions of a jackass who voted for this [BLEEP], is just as stupid.
Enjoy your day!
My name is WingerDinger and I believe in a mass delusion because I can't handle my team losing, but it's your fault for beating my team in the first place.
If Tom Brady just didn't come back and win the game, we would shut up about Myles Jack not being down. Clearly it's all Brady's fault.
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