Joe Manchin has left the party.
(05-31-2024, 11:06 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 10:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]As far as I'm concerned, the libs and democrats spat on the Constitution and infringed on Trump's rights as an American.
I'm all for retribution.
Agreed. [BLEEP] them. You asked for it. It's one thing to have a loud mouth and show bravado. It's another to create laws on the fly mid election year to [BLEEP] with someone.
I hope he rebuilds the economy with one hand and [BLEEP] drowns these [BLEEP] in court on a weekly basis with his other.
The amount of [BLEEP] that they went through to derail him is insane. It's all I needed to see the truth of it. Eight [BLEEP] years of a bloodlust witch hunt while failing to provide a viable candidate to consider on the left?
You lost me there. People are tired of the [BLEEP]. Sending out billions of dollars to corrupt countries to act as a front in the middle east and east to carry out the Globalist Expansion agenda instead of making it work like a true Diplomat.
People scraping by barely, lawless activities in major cities underfunded due to damaging rhetoric under falsehood's and then you have the balls to bus these illegals in, unvetted, unvaccinated and with better benefits than our veterans and tax payers receive?
Get. The. [BLEEP]. Out. Of. Here. With. That. Bull. [BLEEP].
Enough is enough.
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I want treason charges brought up. If the democrats want to play the archaic role of judge, jury and executioner, they need to be held accountable and examples need to be made. Maybe archaic penalties need to be imposed.
(05-31-2024, 11:00 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 10:58 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Obama did not invade Ukraine. Putin did.
Maybe you think we should let Putin do whatever he wants to do. Conquer and subjugate neighboring countries. We've seen what happens when we sit back and allow that. The perpetrator gets way too bold. And then we have to take action to stop it. And that's when American boys start dying by the hundreds of thousands. No, it's better to stop it now, before it gets way out of control.
2014... did Obama instigate a coup that made Zelensky leader for life? In a country we promised Russia we wouldn't interfere with?
Then with an agreement on the table did the Obama administration FORCE Ukraine to say no?
To say that Putin unilaterally invaded Ukraine with no pretext is just disingenuous
And more than that, even if we gave them a trillion dollars they could not EVER win this war.
You're totally devoid of logic if you think the corrupt, cowardly Ukrainians could ever win.
I dunno if you've watched footage of the war but most of those fighting the Russians ain't speaking Slavic languages.
This was always meant as a way to make millions from the Military Industrial Complex.
They are literally on the border with Ukraine. Russia can't lose this war. They won it before they started it. We just keep applying bandages that make our elites rich whilst innocents die for nothing.
(05-31-2024, 11:00 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 10:58 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Obama did not invade Ukraine. Putin did.
Maybe you think we should let Putin do whatever he wants to do. Conquer and subjugate neighboring countries. We've seen what happens when we sit back and allow that. The perpetrator gets way too bold. And then we have to take action to stop it. And that's when American boys start dying by the hundreds of thousands. No, it's better to stop it now, before it gets way out of control.
2014... did Obama instigate a coup that made Zelensky leader for life? In a country we promised Russia we wouldn't interfere with?
Then with an agreement on the table did the Obama administration FORCE Ukraine to say no?
To say that Putin unilaterally invaded Ukraine with no pretext is just disingenuous
No, Obama did not insitigate a coup in the Ukraine. That is a myth perpetrated by the Russian government.
2014-Coup-1.pdf (poder360.com.br)
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n a country we promised Russia we wouldn't interfere with?
Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for a promise that Russia would leave them alone. Russia broke that promise.
Putin invaded Ukraine because he wanted to restore the old Soviet Union. Plus, he thought it would be easy, and the evidence of that is the way he tried to have his army just walk in and take control, as if the Ukrainians wouldn't resist.
(05-31-2024, 11:32 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 11:00 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]2014... did Obama instigate a coup that made Zelensky leader for life? In a country we promised Russia we wouldn't interfere with?
Then with an agreement on the table did the Obama administration FORCE Ukraine to say no?
To say that Putin unilaterally invaded Ukraine with no pretext is just disingenuous
No, Obama did not insitigate a coup in the Ukraine. That is a myth perpetrated by the Russian government.
2014-Coup-1.pdf (poder360.com.br)
In a country we promised Russia we wouldn't interfere with?
Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for a promise that Russia would leave them alone. Russia broke that promise.
Putin invaded Ukraine because he wanted to restore the old Soviet Union. Plus, he thought it would be easy, and the evidence of that is the way he tried to have his army just walk in and take control, as if the Ukrainians wouldn't resist.
The only ones actually fighting are the nazis man. The rest are bored French, British and Americans
And dude, we did instigate that coup. Don't be so
stupid ignorant. We have done it all over the globe
So funny really.. for decades it was the right that said nooooo we don't do that. Now the right admits it the left stomps and says NUH UH
(05-31-2024, 11:47 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 11:45 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Strongly worded letter.....let's see some action for once.
That's the first thing I thought of too.. But for some reason, I think we're seeing action on this one.
We will see. Red state DAs need to start arresting major democrats. That's how you play this game
(05-31-2024, 11:16 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Joe Manchin has left the party.
I like Joe and would def consider voting for him if he ever became a viable candidate for President.
(05-31-2024, 11:50 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 11:45 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Strongly worded letter.....let's see some action for once.
I think both of them will respectfully decline the opportunity to come to Congress and get shouted at for hours.
They need to be arrested then. That is how you make this stop.
(05-31-2024, 11:57 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 11:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]They need to be arrested then. That is how you make this stop.
Arrested for what?
Falsifying guilt to help a political opponent.
(05-31-2024, 10:02 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 09:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]New polls come out next month.. I'm expecting a huge jump in support
Anecdotal at best but when I had a memorial day celebration at my community pool and invited just one other couple (they are interracial, gasps, but since I'm a republican I should hate that) soon everyone was part of my ribs feast.. every black person there supported Trump over who they called an old racist [BLEEP] lol
(05-31-2024, 10:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]There is no conspiracy. This is a New York legal system that even prior to 1776 was built on patronage. That system is exacting its revenge on a man who infuriated its big city liberal voters and who refused to contribute to the campaigns of its politicians.
Now, should voter outrage be sufficient to bring criminal complaints? No. Should a celebrity be expected to contribute his way out of legal problems? No. Both are corrupt.
However
Trump is not actually fighting this corruption! He has proposed literally nothing to root it out. Even now. Nothing. US Congress has the power to "ensure a Republican form of government" in every state, and they could pass all sorts of laws to root out corruption in places like NY. But that has never been discussed. Why not? Trump is only mad because he is the target. He doesn't see this as a problem for anyone but him. He doesn't care about you or anyone else.
Do you think anyone in politics cares about anyone other than themselves?
There's a reason they get rich only when they get into politics.
Yes. Anyone who takes a holistic view and says, "I want to make X illegal for everyone" or "I want to make X legal for everyone" or "I want all people to have to do Y before they can do Z" or "I think we should spend money so more people can have A" is clearly caring about people beyond themselves.
Obviously there are fewer and fewer people like that at the federal level because less and less is actually getting passed. And Trump is a big part of this problem. He doesn't understand law or governance or institutions. He only knows how to entertain. If he understood law he wouldn't be in this situation, and if he learned anything about law along the way he would be talking about how to help get everyone out of this corrupt legal situation, not just himself.
(05-31-2024, 11:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 11:57 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Arrested for what?
Falsifying guilt to help a political opponent.
You do realize, they had a trial, and there was a conviction. So I don't think you can charge them with "falsifying guilt," unless you have some evidence of that, and I assume if any evidence of that existed, it would have come out at the trial.
(05-31-2024, 12:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 10:02 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]Anecdotal at best but when I had a memorial day celebration at my community pool and invited just one other couple (they are interracial, gasps, but since I'm a republican I should hate that) soon everyone was part of my ribs feast.. every black person there supported Trump over who they called an old racist [BLEEP] lol
Do you think anyone in politics cares about anyone other than themselves?
There's a reason they get rich only when they get into politics.
Yes. Anyone who takes a holistic view and says, "I want to make X illegal for everyone" or "I want to make X legal for everyone" or "I want all people to have to do Y before they can do Z" or "I think we should spend money so more people can have A" is clearly caring about people beyond themselves.
Obviously there are fewer and fewer people like that at the federal level because less and less is actually getting passed. And Trump is a big part of this problem. He doesn't understand law or governance or institutions. He only knows how to entertain. If he understood law he wouldn't be in this situation, and if he learned anything about law along the way he would be talking about how to help get everyone out of this corrupt legal situation, not just himself.
Trump's 4 years in office proved this to be a lie. The country was way better off. Everyone knows this, not everyone admits it.
(05-31-2024, 12:09 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2024, 12:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Yes. Anyone who takes a holistic view and says, "I want to make X illegal for everyone" or "I want to make X legal for everyone" or "I want all people to have to do Y before they can do Z" or "I think we should spend money so more people can have A" is clearly caring about people beyond themselves.
Obviously there are fewer and fewer people like that at the federal level because less and less is actually getting passed. And Trump is a big part of this problem. He doesn't understand law or governance or institutions. He only knows how to entertain. If he understood law he wouldn't be in this situation, and if he learned anything about law along the way he would be talking about how to help get everyone out of this corrupt legal situation, not just himself.
Trump's 4 years in office proved this to be a lie. The country was way better off. Everyone knows this, not everyone admits it.
Presidents have little effect on the real-time economy. It does not make sense to judge a President based on economic performance during their term, even if they invite you to do so.
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