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(11-11-2024, 12:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 12:27 AM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, you gotta let us know who.

I really think you already know.

You're 1 of them...

(11-11-2024, 12:33 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 12:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I really think you already know.

You're 1 of them...

No, that's incorrect.

(11-10-2024, 07:46 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2024, 07:42 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]I can’t imagine he’d resign and potentially give up any remaining contract. Shad needs to nut up and can him. Baalke should go at the same time.

Doug has been planning his retirement since the end of the 2022 playoff run.  He thought he was gonna be lauded as a great HC, he forgot he had to actually do more work than just 1 season.

(11-10-2024, 07:42 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2024, 07:37 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]He's been ready to go but can't figure out an exit plan. He could quit but that would undermine any plans he has of continuing a coaching career, although I don't think any team would touch him after his finishes in Philly and here. Or he's just biding his time to either get fired or finish out the season for a guaranteed payout portion of his contract. My gut tells me it's the latter. He's going to lose his job anyway. Might as well ride it out and capitalize on the financial side.

I can’t imagine he’d resign and potentially give up any remaining contract. Shad needs to nut up and can him. Baalke should go at the same time.

(11-10-2024, 06:23 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2024, 06:21 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/18557...C6Wpg&s=19

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I think Doug is ready to go.

I wonder what his contract is? Maybe he only signed a 3 year deal and planned to hand Press the job. The salary is out there but no info on years.

I hope changes are made after the beat down in Detroit.

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He's in full on blame everybody else mode. He's done. Get him out before you end up with a worse situation as he increasingly lashes out because his ego needs a bandaid.

(11-10-2024, 07:37 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2024, 06:23 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I think Doug is ready to go.

He's been ready to go but can't figure out an exit plan. He could quit but that would undermine any plans he has of continuing a coaching career, although I don't think any team would touch him after his finishes in Philly and here. Or he's just biding his time to either get fired or finish out the season for a guaranteed payout portion of his contract. My gut tells me it's the latter. He's going to lose his job anyway. Might as well ride it out and capitalize on the financial side.

I totally agree with that.  Resignation would cost him millions of dollars.  He knows he will eventually get fired, though, so he has to ride it out.

Does people still want Bobby Slowik? Lol

(11-11-2024, 07:56 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Does people still want Bobby Slowik?  Lol

I don't think he's ready. I have him on a list of five candidates I would like to have in 2025 but he's towards the bottom of it now. I really think this team needs a coach that can come in, and, clearly establish an identity. 

I know people don't like these names, but, I really do.

I like Bill Belichick, I like Mike Vrabel and I especially like Brian Flores. With those three, it feels like we would be getting a hardnosed coach, that will not tolerate bull [BLEEP] or nonsense. 

It feels like we would see immediate improvements defensively and that we would see some type of commitment to getting the offensive line and running game fixed. 

I am all for that. Anything to make Trevor Lawrence's job a whole hell of a lot easier over the next five years starting in 2025 I am 1,000% on board with. But, we CLEARLY need a culture shock and we CLEARLY need an identity.

(11-11-2024, 08:01 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 07:56 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Does people still want Bobby Slowik?  Lol

I don't think he's ready. I have him on a list of five candidates I would like to have in 2025 but he's towards the bottom of it now. I really think this team needs a coach that can come in, and, clearly establish an identity. 

I know people don't like these names, but, I really do.

I like Bill Belichick, I like Mike Vrabel and I especially like Brian Flores. With those three, it feels like we would be getting a hardnosed coach, that will not tolerate bull [BLEEP] or nonsense. 

It feels like we would see immediate improvements defensively and that we would see some type of commitment to getting the offensive line and running game fixed. 

I am all for that. Anything to make Trevor Lawrence's job a whole hell of a lot easier over the next five years starting in 2025 I am 1,000% on board with. But, we CLEARLY need a culture shock and we CLEARLY need an identity.

That makes me think back to those heady days when Bologna Marrona took over for Bobblehead and the first thing he did was throw out the ping pong table. Hardnosed coach brings identity change and we got 1 decent season out of it then, in the most #becausejaguars way possible, it imploded. Then Urban came in and "changed the culture" to be very hands on and...it imploded. Then Doug got here, things got better with a "pro coach" that brought a decent season...and it imploded. The common factor in this franchise is that since 2002 this bunch of yahoos goes out of their way to shoot themselves in the [BLEEP]. Every GM, every coach, most of the players...they just implode. We have here the Wile E. Coyote of sports entertainment, always some great new idea that ends up splattered all over the canyon floor.

(11-11-2024, 08:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 08:01 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think he's ready. I have him on a list of five candidates I would like to have in 2025 but he's towards the bottom of it now. I really think this team needs a coach that can come in, and, clearly establish an identity. 

I know people don't like these names, but, I really do.

I like Bill Belichick, I like Mike Vrabel and I especially like Brian Flores. With those three, it feels like we would be getting a hardnosed coach, that will not tolerate bull [BLEEP] or nonsense. 

It feels like we would see immediate improvements defensively and that we would see some type of commitment to getting the offensive line and running game fixed. 

I am all for that. Anything to make Trevor Lawrence's job a whole hell of a lot easier over the next five years starting in 2025 I am 1,000% on board with. But, we CLEARLY need a culture shock and we CLEARLY need an identity.

That makes me think back to those heady days when Bologna Marrona took over for Bobblehead and the first thing he did was throw out the ping pong table. Hardnosed coach brings identity change and we got 1 decent season out of it then, in the most #becausejaguars way possible, it imploded. Then Urban came in and "changed the culture" to be very hands on and...it imploded. Then Doug got here, things got better with a "pro coach" that brought a decent season...and it imploded. The common factor in this franchise is that since 2002 this bunch of yahoos goes out of their way to shoot themselves in the [BLEEP]. Every GM, every coach, most of the players...they just implode. We have here the Wile E. Coyote of sports entertainment, always some great new idea that ends up splattered all over the canyon floor.

So, we're doomed. Got it. LOL.

(11-11-2024, 08:47 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 08:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]That makes me think back to those heady days when Bologna Marrona took over for Bobblehead and the first thing he did was throw out the ping pong table. Hardnosed coach brings identity change and we got 1 decent season out of it then, in the most #becausejaguars way possible, it imploded. Then Urban came in and "changed the culture" to be very hands on and...it imploded. Then Doug got here, things got better with a "pro coach" that brought a decent season...and it imploded. The common factor in this franchise is that since 2002 this bunch of yahoos goes out of their way to shoot themselves in the [BLEEP]. Every GM, every coach, most of the players...they just implode. We have here the Wile E. Coyote of sports entertainment, always some great new idea that ends up splattered all over the canyon floor.

So, we're doomed. Got it. LOL.

After 3 decades of this pattern's repetition...it kinda feels that way, doesn't it?

(11-11-2024, 08:56 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 08:47 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]So, we're doomed. Got it. LOL.

After 3 decades of this pattern's repetition...it kinda feels that way, doesn't it?

Yeah.

There are not many great candidates, and it's impossible to make a candidate list unless Baalke is fired. With Baalke the HC options are extremely limited, and likely a retread.... my guess is Robert Saleh. Khan/Saleh share cultural similarities, Saleh will be desperate and agree to whatever Baalke says, and we will waste another 3-4 years.

It almost seems impossible for us to get out this hole we are dug into. Like a 200 foot sinkhole swallowed the team and everything associated with it, and rescue is above just looking down saying... "Yeah they are [BLEEP]".

(11-11-2024, 08:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 08:01 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think he's ready. I have him on a list of five candidates I would like to have in 2025 but he's towards the bottom of it now. I really think this team needs a coach that can come in, and, clearly establish an identity. 

I know people don't like these names, but, I really do.

I like Bill Belichick, I like Mike Vrabel and I especially like Brian Flores. With those three, it feels like we would be getting a hardnosed coach, that will not tolerate bull [BLEEP] or nonsense. 

It feels like we would see immediate improvements defensively and that we would see some type of commitment to getting the offensive line and running game fixed. 

I am all for that. Anything to make Trevor Lawrence's job a whole hell of a lot easier over the next five years starting in 2025 I am 1,000% on board with. But, we CLEARLY need a culture shock and we CLEARLY need an identity.

That makes me think back to those heady days when Bologna Marrona took over for Bobblehead and the first thing he did was throw out the ping pong table. Hardnosed coach brings identity change and we got 1 decent season out of it then, in the most #becausejaguars way possible, it imploded. Then Urban came in and "changed the culture" to be very hands on and...it imploded. Then Doug got here, things got better with a "pro coach" that brought a decent season...and it imploded. The common factor in this franchise is that since 2002 this bunch of yahoos goes out of their way to shoot themselves in the [BLEEP]. Every GM, every coach, most of the players...they just implode. We have here the Wile E. Coyote of sports entertainment, always some great new idea that ends up splattered all over the canyon floor.

I agree that we need more than a tough HC who's going to hold players to account. Whether you like it or not modern players need to be treated a little kinder and gentler.

I personally see us as kind of like the Rams under Fisher. A mid level team that has flashes of good but plenty of bad. 

McVay comes in, a talented O mind who starts getting players to understand fundamentals and situational football and they take big steps forwards.

I want us to be bold, I want a HC that's O focused and understands the modern strategies and gameplans. Ben Johnson is the stand out guy who fits that bill but is going to be a very tough signing.

I just don't want another retread with a journeyman HC.

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(11-11-2024, 09:00 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]There are not many great candidates, and it's impossible to make a candidate list unless Baalke is fired. With Baalke the HC options are extremely limited, and likely a retread.... my guess is Robert Saleh. Khan/Saleh share cultural similarities, Saleh will be desperate and agree to whatever Baalke says, and we will waste another 3-4 years.

It almost seems impossible for us to get out this hole we are dug into. Like a 200 foot sinkhole swallowed the team and everything associated with it, and rescue is above just looking down saying... "Yeah they are [BLEEP]".

I could get on board Saleh as a DC. He did a great job as LB coach here and he does have a talent for the D side of the ball. 

Definitely a no as a HC tho.

(11-11-2024, 12:45 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 08:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]That makes me think back to those heady days when Bologna Marrona took over for Bobblehead and the first thing he did was throw out the ping pong table. Hardnosed coach brings identity change and we got 1 decent season out of it then, in the most #becausejaguars way possible, it imploded. Then Urban came in and "changed the culture" to be very hands on and...it imploded. Then Doug got here, things got better with a "pro coach" that brought a decent season...and it imploded. The common factor in this franchise is that since 2002 this bunch of yahoos goes out of their way to shoot themselves in the [BLEEP]. Every GM, every coach, most of the players...they just implode. We have here the Wile E. Coyote of sports entertainment, always some great new idea that ends up splattered all over the canyon floor.

I agree that we need more than a tough HC who's going to hold players to account. Whether you like it or not modern players need to be treated a little kinder and gentler.

I personally see us as kind of like the Rams under Fisher. A mid level team that has flashes of good but plenty of bad. 

McVay comes in, a talented O mind who starts getting players to understand fundamentals and situational football and they take big steps forwards.

I want us to be bold, I want a HC that's O focused and understands the modern strategies and gameplans. Ben Johnson is the stand out guy who fits that bill but is going to be a very tough signing.

I just don't want another retread with a journeyman HC.

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(11-11-2024, 09:00 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]There are not many great candidates, and it's impossible to make a candidate list unless Baalke is fired. With Baalke the HC options are extremely limited, and likely a retread.... my guess is Robert Saleh. Khan/Saleh share cultural similarities, Saleh will be desperate and agree to whatever Baalke says, and we will waste another 3-4 years.

It almost seems impossible for us to get out this hole we are dug into. Like a 200 foot sinkhole swallowed the team and everything associated with it, and rescue is above just looking down saying... "Yeah they are [BLEEP]".

I could get on board Saleh as a DC. He did a great job as LB coach here and he does have a talent for the D side of the ball. 

Definitely a no as a HC tho.

Once they fire Baalke, all coaches will be back on the table.

Pederson was hired because he was one of the only ones willing to work with Baalke.

Baalke gets fired and then we can go after Matt LaFleur, Ben Johnson, Liam Coen and others.

(11-11-2024, 01:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 12:45 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree that we need more than a tough HC who's going to hold players to account. Whether you like it or not modern players need to be treated a little kinder and gentler.

I personally see us as kind of like the Rams under Fisher. A mid level team that has flashes of good but plenty of bad. 

McVay comes in, a talented O mind who starts getting players to understand fundamentals and situational football and they take big steps forwards.

I want us to be bold, I want a HC that's O focused and understands the modern strategies and gameplans. Ben Johnson is the stand out guy who fits that bill but is going to be a very tough signing.

I just don't want another retread with a journeyman HC.

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I could get on board Saleh as a DC. He did a great job as LB coach here and he does have a talent for the D side of the ball. 

Definitely a no as a HC tho.

Once they fire Baalke, all coaches will be back on the table.

Pederson was hired because he was one of the only ones willing to work with Baalke.

Baalke gets fired and then we can go after Matt LaFleur, Ben Johnson, Liam Coen and others.

Lafluer would be amazing. Dunno why green bay would let him go tho

Why would he leave for Jacksonville? Same with Ben Johnson. They can get money elsewhere too and there they will be winning.

(11-11-2024, 01:47 PM)g1ml3t Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 01:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Once they fire Baalke, all coaches will be back on the table.

Pederson was hired because he was one of the only ones willing to work with Baalke.

Baalke gets fired and then we can go after Matt LaFleur, Ben Johnson, Liam Coen and others.

Lafluer would be amazing. Dunno why green bay would let him go tho

Sorry. Meant to say Mike LaFleur. Currently the OC for the Rams.

(11-11-2024, 01:51 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2024, 01:47 PM)g1ml3t Wrote: [ -> ]Lafluer would be amazing. Dunno why green bay would let him go tho

Sorry. Meant to say Mike LaFleur. Currently the OC for the Rams.

Word I could get on board with that. We need an X's and O's guy in my opinion similar to a Kevin o'connell

(11-11-2024, 01:50 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]Why would he leave for Jacksonville? Same with Ben Johnson. They can get money elsewhere too and there they will be winning.

The guys I listed (changed Matt to Mike) are all offensive coordinators. They may want to be head coaches. 

Shad has the money. Jags have 2 very good pass rushers, franchise QB, young ascending WR, a very winnable division and a top 5 pick. There will also be a new GM.

Of all the jobs that'll be open, I think this one will be one of if not the most attractive.

Giants are stuck in QB purgatory because DJ sucks. Dallas is enticing but you have to deal with Jerry. Bears are interesting but you have no shot of winning that division. Saints are a mess and so are the Jets.

Did ya'll listen to Doug's press conference last night. The dude is becoming a total jack wagon.