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Quote:If you're going by NFL.coms grades. He's slightly below, but comparable.
Elliot 7.09
Fournette 6.8
I don't think he's quite the prospect Elliot was. Elliot has better vision, quickness, and patience IMO.
Ok, thank you for doing that research for me - lol. :thanks:
I wonder then why we're hearing best prospect since [fill in the blank] or t
ranscendent
player, etc.
Its not too hard to think a prospect is top notch while simultaneously not wanting to draft them with the first.
Every thread about Fournette comes down to that which is no surprise, at the end of the day we're all just spitballing our thoughts.
Fournette isnt peterson man get over this meme. Its not even close.
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fournette cant do things like this.
Lol... "meme"
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youre still using memes with words on them in 2017
im not the one whos behind on memes here
Quote:And yet, when I watched that video someone provided in another thread, titled something like "All of Fournette's Runs From the Shotgun," which was supposed to prove he couldn't run out of the shotgun, I thought he looked great.
Me too. Sure he was stuffed on the first few, so if that's all you watched you would be like, "eh." But then when you keep watching, he starts breaking some nice ones... Some of those shot-gun runs were really impressive. It's not like he flat couldn't run out of the shot-gun like some on here are claiming.
Quote:You're just behind on intellect in general.
Oh, and...
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/top-nfl-draft-prospects-leonard-fournette-worthy-of-adrian-peterson-comparisons/'>http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/top-nfl-draft-prospects-leonard-fournette-worthy-of-adrian-peterson-comparisons/</a>
Better educated opinions than yours have compared him to Peterson.
And... Bo Jackson.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000727765/article/dare-to-compare-nfl-comp-for-lsu-rb-leonard-fournette'>http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000727765/article/dare-to-compare-nfl-comp-for-lsu-rb-leonard-fournette</a>
The above links aren't "memes" BTW, genius. Neither was Achille's post.
A more realistic and accurate comparison in my opinion as a prospect is Jonathan Stewart.
Quote:I don't care whom we draft, we have to improve our blocking. Barry Sanders is about the only guy I remember who could gain yards without getting any decent blocking.
Barry was actually stuffed behind the line of scrimmage more than other elite RBs, and was routinely taken out near the goal line or in short-yardage situations. It's just teams had to always key on him while stacking up against him because the one time you let him get free... ouch. One missed tackle by a run blitzer could be very costly.
I remember one game vs the Lions back when the 49ers were far and beyond the most dominant team in the league. The Lions were stuffed pretty far back... I'm thinking inside the 10, but I can't recall exactly... when Barry finds a crease, and the next thing you know he's gone for like a 90-yard TD.
I loved watching Barry in slo-mo in the open field just abusing linebackers, but he still needed at least some initial blocking. Often he found himself tackled as soon as he touched the ball before he could even take a step.
Quote:A more realistic and accurate comparison in my opinion as a prospect is Jonathan Stewart.
I don't think that's a bad one. Irony there is, it's been said the Panthers are "100% sold" on Fournette (who could end up his replacement.)
I don't think Marshawn Lynch is a necessarily a bad comparison, either.
Quote:I wonder why he was 241 or so at the combine, and why he's 228 now.
There might have been a team... Jaguars? Panthers? ...who told him they'd like to see him lose some weight.
Quote:A more realistic and accurate comparison in my opinion as a prospect is Jonathan Stewart.
That's a great shout..loved him in the draft.
Quote:There's no hard and fast pattern, but there have been so many first round busts at RB in years when rounds 2-4 yielded quality backs, that many are hesitant to jump on a RB in the top ten.
2014:
Bishop Sankey in the 1st round (edit: Sankey was pick #54 overall - no backs taken in the first that year)
* DeVonta Freeman and James White in the 4th Round.
2013 :
No first round back.
2nd round: Giovanni Bernard, LeVeon Bell, Eddie Lacy
6th round:Andre Ellington , Spencer Ware
2012:
Trent Richardson in the first round. Doug Martin at pick #31.
3rd round: Bernard Pierce
4th Round: Lamar Miller , Robert Turbin
6th round: Alfred Morris
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The point is that good backs are indeed there for the taking in mid rounds -- so you better be damn sure about a guy being a superstar to take him top five when you could likely get a good one in the next three rounds.
It's not automatic that you'll land a mid-round gem of course, but it's clearly do-able.
Looking at the league's draft history, I noticed that there have been very few RBs picked in the top five over the past decade, but that appears to be a relatively new trend. Starting around 10 years ago and further back as far as you want to go, drafting a RB in the top five was a rather common practice. In fact, RB is one of the most drafted positions in the top five after the few obvious positions like QB, DE and OT.
Quote:We went the route of finding a later RB with Yeldon, and it didn't work out. Examples of success/failure can be found for every circumstance.
That being said, there's always value in drafting for value. As deep as this draft is, I'd be happy with trading out and getting more picks in what is a deep draft in many positions. Many QB teams have made moves prior to the draft because the QBs aren't strong, so being/not being able to trade down is an entirely different discussion - but would benefit if we could.
There's talk that there's a wide gap between Fournette and the field, and that Fournette's rated second only to Ezekiel Elliot in recent times. If that's true and he's available, I find it hard to pass unless they have a DL ranked higher on their board.
A later RB? Yeldon was drafted early in round two as the 3rd overall RB drafted.
Pretty disappointing that he didn't do any tests...really had the chance to change some opinions while carrying less weight.
Quote:You're just behind on intellect in general.
Oh, and...
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/top-nfl-draft-prospects-leonard-fournette-worthy-of-adrian-peterson-comparisons/'>http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/top-nfl-draft-prospects-leonard-fournette-worthy-of-adrian-peterson-comparisons/</a>
Better educated opinions than yours have compared him to Peterson.
And... Bo Jackson.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000727765/article/dare-to-compare-nfl-comp-for-lsu-rb-leonard-fournette'>http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000727765/article/dare-to-compare-nfl-comp-for-lsu-rb-leonard-fournette</a>
The above links aren't "memes" BTW, genius. Neither was Achille's post.
Thanks man for some opinions i wholeheartedly dont care about whatsoever.
And stop telling me about memes youre 45
Quote:Looking at the league's draft history, I noticed that there have been very few RBs picked in the top five over the past decade, but that appears to be a relatively new trend. Starting around 10 years ago and further back as far as you want to go, drafting a RB in the top five was a rather common practice. In fact, RB is one of the most drafted positions in the top five after the few obvious positions like QB, DE and OT.
Not sure if i'm remembering correctly, but the draft with Ronnie Brown and Macalister (cannot recall his name) were highly drafted prospects. If I recall correctly, we drafted MJD the same year as Brown and we know how that turned out. I think it was a little after that time frame that RB's started to become devaued, also not a coincedence the QB's started to blow up the league and the RB wasn't the workhorse he once was.
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