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Quote:Not at all.  I'm simply pointing out how stupid and immature people are allowed to vote.  That's scary.

 

I use those terms because if the mere sight of "Trump 2016" is considered an "attack" and they "no longer feel safe" on campus because of it, then they don't have a whole lot going on upstairs.

While I don't agree with kids acting like wusses as has become more common as of late, how are these kids, expressing their disdain (condemning the speech) for a certain point of view any different then people openly expressing their disdain for say, the LGBT community? Those people vote in politicians solely because they will deny rights to people yet their speech and opinion is defended while these kids are decried as trying to stifle speech? Seems to be a quite the double standard.

Quote:While I don't agree with kids acting like wusses as has become more common as of late, how are these kids, expressing their disdain (condemning the speech) for a certain point of view any different then people openly expressing their disdain for say, the LGBT community? Those people vote in politicians solely because they will deny rights to people yet their speech and opinion is defended while these kids are decried as trying to stifle speech? Seems to be a quite the double standard.

That's a good point.

Quote:While I don't agree with kids acting like wusses as has become more common as of late, how are these kids, expressing their disdain (condemning the speech) for a certain point of view any different then people openly expressing their disdain for say, the LGBT community? Those people vote in politicians solely because they will deny rights to people yet their speech and opinion is defended while these kids are decried as trying to stifle speech? Seems to be a quite the double standard.

 

Example?

Quote:Example?

 


Rethuglicans, duh...

Quote:Example?

Seriously? You've never heard of anyone speaking out against the LGBT community... Like say anyone on here... or in the news... or where ever you get your media from or passing laws denying municipalities from passing bans on certain types of discrimination? This is a pointless conversation if you are going to pretend to have no idea what I am talking about.

Quote:Rethuglicans, duh...

Ah yes, the old drive by snarky add nothing. You guys are so touchy.

Quote:Seriously? You've never heard of anyone speaking out against the LGBT community... Like say anyone on here... or in the news... or where ever you get your media from or passing laws denying municipalities from passing bans on certain types of discrimination? This is a pointless conversation if you are going to pretend to have no idea what I am talking about.

North Carolina recently passed a law stating that municipalities can't pass laws more strict against discrimination than their state law.

Quote:Ah yes, the old drive by snarky add nothing. You guys are so touchy.

 

I answered the question. Brevity is the soul of wit after all.

Quote:Seriously? You've never heard of anyone speaking out against the LGBT community... Like say anyone on here... or in the news... or where ever you get your media from or passing laws denying municipalities from passing bans on certain types of discrimination? This is a pointless conversation if you are going to pretend to have no idea what I am talking about.

 

It is usually expressed as "the LGBT Nazis shoving their lifestyle down our throats", an as unfortunate and ironic metaphor as any I could imagine.

Quote:North Carolina recently passed a law stating that municipalities can't pass laws more strict against discrimination than their state law.

But will conservatives say that local municipality rights shouldn't be dictated by state law in holding with their opposition of federal law dictating state law?


I'm kidding of course. We know that it will be OK in THIS instance.

it is the ultimate responsibility of the state to protect the safety of its citizens.  If a law passed at the municipal level allowing someone genetically male to enter a female bathroom unencumbered then it makes sense that they would have standing to overturn said law.

Quote:I answered the question. Brevity is the soul of wit after all.

http://qz.com/566050/people-who-like-pse...s-science/

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You're one of the first to consider Shakespeare "pseudo." Lol.

Quote:While I don't agree with kids acting like wusses as has become more common as of late, how are these kids, expressing their disdain (condemning the speech) for a certain point of view any different then people openly expressing their disdain for say, the LGBT community? Those people vote in politicians solely because they will deny rights to people yet their speech and opinion is defended while these kids are decried as trying to stifle speech? Seems to be a quite the double standard.

one is obviously hate speech. The other is wuss kids getting their feelings hurt and crying foul. To compare the two is pretty messed up.

Quote:But will conservatives say that local municipality rights shouldn't be dictated by state law in holding with their opposition of federal law dictating state law?


I'm kidding of course. We know that it will be OK in THIS instance.

 

All of that would be dependent on the states constitution. I'm not sure how North Carolina's state constitution was written or the intention of it how their form of state government is supposed to work.

Quote:But will conservatives say that local municipality rights shouldn't be dictated by state law in holding with their opposition of federal law dictating state law?


I'm kidding of course. We know that it will be OK in THIS instance.

 

I have no problem with states limiting what actions can be considered a crime under local law. The fewer things that people can be punished for the better.


 

For the same reason I also have no problem with the federal government limiting what can be considered a crime under state law. If the federal government says an abortion can't be treated as a crime, I have no problem with that. But it should have been done in congress. I do have a problem with the nine old Ivy League elitists imposing their will in matters that are clearly not covered in the Constitution.

Quote:North Carolina recently passed a law stating that municipalities can't pass laws more strict against discrimination than their state law.

Story in full. My comments in red
. Keep in mind, the law was passed for public places. Private businesses can set the rules for their establishments.

 

RALEIGH 


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<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">The N.C. General Assembly on Wednesday approved a bill that invalidates Charlotte’s new legal protections for LGBT individuals, doing far more than striking down a controversial provision that allowed transgender people to use the bathroom of the gender with which they identify. Gov. Pat McCrory signed it into law hours later.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">The vote in the House was 84-25 after three hours of debate, with all Republicans voting for it and 11 Democrats breaking ranks with their party to support the bill.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">In the Senate, the vote was 32-0 after the Democrats walked out in protest, saying they had not been allowed to participate in the process.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">“We witnessed an affront to democracy,” said Democratic Sen. Dan Blue of Raleigh, the minority leader. “We will not be silent.”

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">I find it interesting that all Senate Democrats walked out and 11 House Dems voted for it. 


<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">State Rep. Dan Bishop, a Charlotte Republican who sponsored the bill, said the legislature likely would not have convened had Charlotte passed a nondiscrimination ordinance that included protections for LGBT individuals but didn’t allow for the bathroom flexibility.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">“We might not be here today,” he said.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">But when asked why the bill does more than strike down the bathroom flexibility, Bishop said it made sense to keep the state in line with the protected classes recognized by the federal government. There is no federal civil rights legislation that protects LGBT individuals.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">Also interesting that had Charlotte left the bathroom issue out everything else would have passed. But they wanted all and got none because they were unwilling to be flexible on that one issue. NC is an extremely conservative state for the most part, even though McCrory is the first conservative governer they've had in ages. I'm all for equal protections until it comes to private areas like restrooms and locker rooms. Call me a bigot or close-minded- I don't care. I don't want to walk into a public restroom facility and see a dude there. And I can't imagine grown men in a women's bathroom with young girls or grown women in a bathroom with young boys. The adults may be able to work it out in their minds even if they don't want to, but young children cannot. If no one can tell the difference because they had surgery, more power to them. What people don't know they can't complain about. 


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Quote:Seriously? You've never heard of anyone speaking out against the LGBT community... Like say anyone on here... or in the news... or where ever you get your media from or passing laws denying municipalities from passing bans on certain types of discrimination? This is a pointless conversation if you are going to pretend to have no idea what I am talking about.

 

I don't get your "double standard" comment.

 

I have never heard anyone speak out against the LGBT community directly (aside from fringe groups such as Westboro Baptist Church).  Let me ask you this.  Is someone saying that they believe that marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman considered "hate speech" or speaking out against the gay community?  It's simply expressing one's belief.  Should somebody be allowed to express that opinion openly, or should it be banned as "hate speech"?

 

The same goes for somebody writing "Trump 2016" in chalk on a sidewalk.  Is that really "hate speech" that should be banned, or is it simply supporting a particular political candidate?

 

The thing is, the term "hate speech" has no real clear definition.  However, once something gets labeled as "hate speech" it usually gets banned or restricted to the "free speech zones".  This happens not only on college campuses, but also in government public schools.  Certain clothing is not allowed because it might "offend" others or make them feel "unsafe".

 

Again, I just don't get your "double standard" comment at all.

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Story in full. My comments in red
. Keep in mind, the law was passed for public places. Private businesses can set the rules for their establishments.

 

RALEIGH 

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<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">The N.C. General Assembly on Wednesday approved a bill that invalidates Charlotte’s new legal protections for LGBT individuals, doing far more than striking down a controversial provision that allowed transgender people to use the bathroom of the gender with which they identify. Gov. Pat McCrory signed it into law hours later.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">The vote in the House was 84-25 after three hours of debate, with all Republicans voting for it and 11 Democrats breaking ranks with their party to support the bill.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">In the Senate, the vote was 32-0 after the Democrats walked out in protest, saying they had not been allowed to participate in the process.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">“We witnessed an affront to democracy,” said Democratic Sen. Dan Blue of Raleigh, the minority leader. “We will not be silent.”

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">I find it interesting that all Senate Democrats walked out and 11 House Dems voted for it. 


<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">State Rep. Dan Bishop, a Charlotte Republican who sponsored the bill, said the legislature likely would not have convened had Charlotte passed a nondiscrimination ordinance that included protections for LGBT individuals but didn’t allow for the bathroom flexibility.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">“We might not be here today,” he said.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">But when asked why the bill does more than strike down the bathroom flexibility, Bishop said it made sense to keep the state in line with the protected classes recognized by the federal government. There is no federal civil rights legislation that protects LGBT individuals.

<p style="font-size:17px;font-family:Lyon, Georgia, serif;">Also interesting that had Charlotte left the bathroom issue out everything else would have passed. But they wanted all and got none because they were unwilling to be flexible on that one issue. NC is an extremely conservative state for the most part, even though McCrory is the first conservative governer they've had in ages. I'm all for equal protections until it comes to private areas like restrooms and locker rooms. Call me a bigot or close-minded- I don't care. I don't want to walk into a public restroom facility and see a dude there. And I can't imagine grown men in a women's bathroom with young girls or grown women in a bathroom with young boys. The adults may be able to work it out in their minds even if they don't want to, but young children cannot. If no one can tell the difference because they had surgery, more power to them. What people don't know they can't complain about. 


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Exactly.  However, those on the far left believe that opinion is "hate speech" and "takes away rights" from certain people.