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Quote:No man, you won. We can't have missiles, therefore we cant have guns either. Unbreakable argument.

 

But isn't it the same argument we hear from gun right activists, if you try to ban any gun, all will eventually be banned?

Quote:That's true, but where is the line drawn? Gun rights activists oppose any line, yet you infer there is a limit.

I think the obvious line would be when you go from an object containing a chamber and a large barrel that propels an unguided projectile to an object that is essentially a guided, Mach 2-capable bomb.

Quote:I think the obvious line would be when you go from an object containing a chamber and a large barrel that propels an unguided projectile to an object that is essentially a guided, Mach 2-capable bomb.

Maybe instead of an electric car I'll get a tank. They see me rollin'...

... Lol. This is sad.

Quote:Maybe instead of an electric car I'll get a tank. They see me rollin'...

 

It's actually perfectly legal to own a tank.

Quote:But isn't it the same argument we hear from gun right activists, if you try to ban any gun, all will eventually be banned?

Or, substitute gun with abortion.

Quote:Maybe instead of an electric car I'll get a tank. They see me rollin'...

Quote:That's true, but where is the line drawn? Gun rights activists oppose any line, yet you infer there is a limit.

My point.

Quote:It's actually perfectly legal to own a tank.

Interesting! But do they sell the ordinance too? That would be really interesting.

The thing is, it's The President's duty to appoint a replacement like it or not.  What is pivotal and important is the person nominated.  It needs to be someone that refers to The Constitution when making a ruling.  Sadly, both of the last appointments made by the current President have been partisan Activists with an extreme left leaning agenda.  He has to do better than Sonia Sotomayor or Elena Kagan.  A nomination similar to either of them will most certainly be blocked (rightfully so) by The Senate.  Turning The Supreme Court into a partisan arm of any political party is most certainly a way to doom the country.

Quote:What are you trying to say? Do you think we should ban people who have been convicted of a crime from having firearms? Confiscate their weapons?


I think it's fair to say most 'criminals' buy their guns legally. It's not like they need to utilize a black market. They can just go to a gun show and pay cash.


I'm not sure I follow the logic of cracking down on 'criminals' as opposed to the general public.

You do realize felons and those with domestic violence and other similar records cannot legally own firearms, right? There are people who have been convicted of certain crimes who should never be able to legally own a firearm. And if they don't own them legally then yes, they should be confiscated.

 

And I don't know what gun shows you've been to but the ones around here require background checks on the spot for hand guns and a call to the sheriff's office of the county you live in to check for a felony, domestic violence and repeat offender assault record if you plan to buy a long gun. You do not leave that building with a firearm without having a check done no matter how you pay for it. We've been to many gun shows and it's the same at every one of them. You don't leave any legal firearm selling establishment without these checks. I don't know how it is in other states but it's how we do it here in NC.

 

And what is the difference between a 'criminal' and a criminal?

Quote:What are you trying to say? Do you think we should ban people who have been convicted of a crime from having firearms? Confiscate their weapons?


I think it's fair to say most 'criminals' buy their guns legally. It's not like they need to utilize a black market. They can just go to a gun show and pay cash.


I'm not sure I follow the logic of cracking down on 'criminals' as opposed to the general public.

You're exposing how little you know on this topic. A criminal can not show up at a gun show and pay cash. They still do instant background checks at gun shows. The only difference is the 3 day waiting period is waived on hand guns for non ccl owner's.

Quote:Big changes coming to Supreme Court. Discuss.

 

Our President B. Obama as a Senator used everything possible to stop a Republican nomination from occurring (he even said it wasn't the person but just politics), yet he wants to cry about it when the Republicans do it back to him.

 

Waaa, so over this liar.

Quote:You're exposing how little you know on this topic. A criminal can not show up at a gun show and pay cash. They still do instant background checks at gun shows. The only difference is the 3 day waiting period is waived on hand guns for non ccl owner's.

I thought there are private sellers at gun shows that are completely unregulated -- not licensed dealers. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Quote:Our President B. Obama as a Senator used everything possible to stop a Republican nomination from occurring (he even said it wasn't the person but just politics), yet he wants to cry about it when the Republicans do it back to him.

 

Waaa, so over this liar.

 

If only the Republicans had a spine we'd get to see Loretta Lynch get Borked on C-Span.

 

But they don't.

 

So we won't.

 

Instead we'll get another anti-freedom leftsist with an ax to grind appointed for the next 40 years.

Quote:You do realize felons and those with domestic violence and other similar records cannot legally own firearms, right? There are people who have been convicted of certain crimes who should never be able to legally own a firearm. And if they don't own them legally then yes, they should be confiscated.

 

And I don't know what gun shows you've been to but the ones around here require background checks on the spot for hand guns and a call to the sheriff's office of the county you live in to check for a felony, domestic violence and repeat offender assault record if you plan to buy a long gun. You do not leave that building with a firearm without having a check done no matter how you pay for it. We've been to many gun shows and it's the same at every one of them. You don't leave any legal firearm selling establishment without these checks. I don't know how it is in other states but it's how we do it here in NC.

 

And what is the difference between a 'criminal' and a criminal?

I was aware of the rule about felons but not domestic violence. Never heard that before. That's a good thing. I am trying to clarify which criminals we are talking about tho. Point being it seems there could be more done on the front end before they use the gun to become a criminal. And it is much less about taking guns from legal owners and much moreso about restricting who can become a legal owner before they become a criminal.

Quote:I was aware of the rule about felons but not domestic violence. Never heard that before. That's a good thing. I am trying to clarify which criminals we are talking about tho. Point being it seems there could be more done on the front end before they use the gun to become a criminal. And it is much less about taking guns from legal owners and much moreso about restricting who can become a legal owner before they become a criminal.

Whats going to show up on a background check if the person doesnt have a record?

Quote:Whats going to show up on a background check if the person doesnt have a record?

 

U read my mind

Quote:Whats going to show up on a background check if the person doesnt have a record?

Good question. One option might be a medical screening. There could be a check done to see if are actively taking anti-psychotic medication. Cross check that with members of the household too. Sandy hook comes to mind. That kid should never been allowed to have access to guns.