Quote:Division up for grabs. Easiest end of season schedule in the division and we go 1-5....
Gus is coming back and there's nothing we can do about it but how has he instilled confidence in management? That's what I don't get.
The fact is, we still have a poor D line, and the strength we did have were hurt or misplayed(Odrick) in their roles. Odrick played the 3 in Miami, for whatever dumb reason he is a 4 here. This is either from Gus or Babich, either way our defense is inexcusable and the idea NO talent has been acquired in the last 3 years for the defense is a farce. I don't claim to have answers, but its pretty clear there isn't one that is clear cut on this coaching staff. ayou could argue maybe Marrone, or even Olson with what he did with the offense, but who knows. Fact is Gus is back, like it or not and likely leads to another sub 5 win season. Maybe we get a blockbuster draft and FA period and we buy a top 10 defense even Bradley cant muck up.
Philadelphia 76ers of the NFL.
I wonder if Roger is going to force Khan to bring in somebody like Holmgreen to try to salvage the reputation of the team and league. Clearly bringing Gus back for a 4th year is because the team's tanking for another high draft pick, right? Khan can't actually believe Gus deserves to be the coach based on the merit of his track record... Can he?
12-36 says it all.
Khan,do the right thing.
Quote:12-36 says it all.
Khan,do the right thing.
He already did. He allowed the great PCGB one more year. Hell if he gets 8 wins next year he should sign him to a life time contract.
Quote:Bradley has 12 wins in 48 games. The only coaches that are worse in the history of the NFL...
Steve Magnuolo and Rod Marinelli won 10 games in 48 games and didn't coach again. Magnuolo went 2-14 in his last season and Marinelli went 0-16 in his last season.
Bert Bell had 10 wins in 58 games from 1936-1941 (going 1-10 in his last season).
Regardless of the rebuilding situation, Bradley is historically bad.
I don't see any logic whatsoever in retaining him.
But but but ... "Rebuilding!" ... "Gutted the roster!"
As if no other coaches in NFL history have had to deal with it.
Quote:I keep seeing this but there is no way to prove it...This is an assumption and not a fact...I would love to see some evidence that any coach could do any better with what he has, but there is no way to do that...Are there better coaches than Gus? Well yeah...there's also worse...But to say any coach in the playoffs could find a way to fix stupid mistakes such as missed field goals, receivers running wrong routes and dropping balls in the early part of the season, OL missing blocks, snapping balls too soon, too high, defensive scheme doesn't have the right players to work, and all that other stupid young player mistakes which cost a few games has no merit based on the inability to show proof...Is it possible/ Sure it is, but it's not an absolute
If you can't see it, you're blind. Maybe you should take some time to watch other football teams play in the NFL. The way Bradley coaches is a regression compared to competent head coaches in the NFL. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
Quote:The defense fell apart (Injuries, Age, Lack of talent) , The kicker fell apart (Literally cost us 2 games) and Bortles only emerged after game 5 or 6. Ignorant is using hypothetical situations to further your agenda.
I conceded all those points. You failed to discuss the critiques I had about Bradley. Bradley sucks as a head coach. The players are not very good. I don't understand how certain posters have a hard time realizing that both deficiencies can occur. It can be both players AND plays that cause us to suck. In this case, that's how it's working out.
Quote:If you want to see it that way, that's your choice. I am not going to judge him until he has a complete team. Could he have MAYBE won another game or two. MAYBE. But to think anybody could have done anything with that horrible defense is dreaming, IMHO. Guess we'll see next year.
That's how I want to see it. I may be wrong. I hope I am. But I wasn't wrong about Fish. I don't think I'm wrong about Bradley. The Seattle Scheme sucks. It requires elite caliber players to be effective. I'd rather get a coach that can figure out how to adapt then a coach that tries to hammer a square peg into a round hole.
Quote:But but but ... "Rebuilding!" ... "Gutted the roster!"
As if no other coaches in NFL history have had to deal with it.
No doubt.
Hell the Texans won the division going through 4 or 5 backup QB's all season.
A good HC would have had the Jags at 8-8 or 9-7 this season.
Quote:Telvin Smith. 5th round pick. But wait, he probably developed on his own.
Yawn...
Tom Brady was a 6th round pick... You realize how weak this arguement is, right??? If not, then whatever.
Anyways, I'm done with this discussion. Gus Bradley is a terrible head coach. We'll wind up 7 or 8 wins next year. And if we keep him after next year, I'll continue to tell you how crappy of a head coach he is.
The tin horns still won't have a head coach OR a QB. The clots still have an average QB in Luck. And the tacks are a weak team in purgatory.
If we don't win the division next year, we'll never win it.
With a real head coach, we would have won the division this year.
Quote:No doubt.
Hell the Texans won the division going through 4 or 5 backup QB's all season.
A good HC would have had the Jags at 8-8 or 9-7 this season.
Once Shad Khan realizes this, it will be a great day for Jag's fans, but until then, expect more of the same, unfortunately.
Quote:Telvin Smith. 5th round pick. But wait, he probably developed on his own.
Telvin Smith was projected to be a high 2nd round pick before he failed a pre-draft drug test. It's not as if he lacked talent. He flashed the same Pro Bowl level play in his very first preseason game. It took him most of his rookie season to learn his role in the defense, but he finished out the 2014 season leading the NFL in tackles his last two games.
He hasn't developed any more since then.
Quote:Once Shad Khan realizes this, it will be a great day for Jag's fans, but until then, expect more of the same, unfortunately.
We'd easily be 7-9 with a real head coach. And that is even with conceding the clot game where Meyers missed the game winning FGs... This head coach held us back. But you know, it's important to keep losers around so that we maintain the status quo of mediocrity.
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Ryan O'Halloran @<b>ryanohalloran</b> </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran/status/683775098759741441' title="2:21 PM - 3 Jan 2016">7m7 minutes ago</a>
<p class="">Gus didn't second-guess offensive pass pro plan, but pointed out that maybe more max protection would have helped. <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'>#<b>Jaguars</b></a>
This guy is clueless. Dont see how Khann can not see it
Quote:Ryan O'Halloran @<b>ryanohalloran</b> 7m7 minutes ago
Gus didn't second-guess offensive pass pro plan, but pointed out that maybe more max protection would have helped. #<b>Jaguars</b>
I particularly liked this one;
Quote:Gus on Texans pass rush: "They caused issues. We said some of these have the ability to disrupt the game and they did." <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'>#<b>Jaguars</b></a>
"So, this pass-rush is really good. Should we try to counter it with extra blockers or lots of really quick screen/slant throws? Nah. Regular drop backs, five men blocking. It's cool."
(3 hours, and 8 sacks, later)
"Well, we knew they had the ability to really disrupt the game, and boy did they ever. What a great team. Really just have to give credit to them for how good they are. Nothing else we could have done on that front."
Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran'>Ryan O'Halloran @ryanohalloran </a> <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran/status/683775098759741441'>7m7 minutes ago</a>
Gus didn't second-guess offensive pass pro plan, but pointed out that maybe more max protection would have helped. <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'>#Jaguars</a>
Maybe this moron should focus on his WORST scoring allowed defense in franchise history
Dude is the worst coach in the League
Quote:Ryan O'Halloran @<b>ryanohalloran</b> 7m7 minutes ago
Gus didn't second-guess offensive pass pro plan, but pointed out that maybe more max protection would have helped. #<b>Jaguars</b>
It was a great idea to tell everyone on Tuesday that we are gonna stick with Bradley... LOL... Maybe Khan isn't as smart as some people think he is.
Matter of fact, that was the stupidest thing I've ever seen a negotiator ever do. Why would you give a vote of confidence to a performer that has not been performing????
Seriously... I have an auto mechanic... My wife's car broke down twice last year. After the 2nd time I took the car into the shop for him to look at it, I made it clear that I was concered that I was bringing the car back AGAIN just after he fixed another problem. I made sure he understood that I was concerned that he HADN'T NOTICED the problem when he was looking at the car the FIRST TIME. My mechanic gave me a discount on the job he did the second time and I'm pretty sure he did a more thourough job.
That's how you handle a disappointing performance.
Imagine if I would have taken my car back to my mechanic the 2nd time and said, "hey, you're doing fine. Just keep up what your doing, and I'm sure it'll work out fine".
No, you put the pressure on your performer to ensure you get the best work out of him possible. I'm not sure how Khan doesn't understand that, unless maybe he's not very smart in terms of how to get the most out of people...
Just something to ponder
Quote: I don't think I'm wrong about Bradley. The Seattle Scheme sucks. It requires elite caliber players to be effective. I'd rather get a coach that can figure out how to adapt then a coach that tries to hammer a square peg into a round hole.
That's definitely looking more like it. Those guys on Seattle's D may be responsible for getting a couple of guys head coaching jobs they did not deserve. Right now, Bradley's only hope is that for the Jags' players on D to eventually become elite, and he'll be just along for the ride.
Man this situation is pathetic
Let me let everyone in on a secret....
Gus was never on the hot seat. The front office knows this is a five year plan. They are focusing all the fan ire at an incompetent head coach and the next guy is going to win the lottery. The cash is being bolstered by the London game and they are string us along.
So, here's a thought that was brought up on the 5th Quarter Show (I forget who said it now. I was caught up multi-tasking so didn't post this immediately.) that absolutely terrifies me;
What if Greg Olson gets hired away from this team?
Then this team is keeping Gus for the continuity, seemingly specifically based on the progress the offense made this year. Except, they won't have that continuity for Blake anyway.
Would Khan be forced into keeping Gus at that point because the HC candidate pool might be too bleak? Would it be worthwhile to get rid of Gus at such a late point anyway? Would you be able to keep yourself from jumping off the Modis (I don't care if it's the Wells Fargo building now, it'll always be the Modis in my heart)? Is there a worse scenario that could play out?