Quote:Disappointed that Rand was not present. I can't take Trump seriously. Still believe he's running just to sabotage the GOP. Don't think Carson fared any better after switching campaign managers. Think it's down to Trump, Cruz, and Rubio.
And if it's just those 3 give me Cruz all day and twice on Sunday.
Quote:And if it's just those 3 give me Cruz all day and twice on Sunday.
Rubio's the only sensible one of the bunch, but I can't get behind someone who insists that bulk data collection is a good thing, and that there being "by and large" a lack of "evidence of mass abuse" (
his words, not mine) makes spying on Americans justifiable. It's essentially an admission on his part that it's being misused, he knows it's being misused, but no one's told him exactly how or on what scale it's being misused.
I'd pick Cruz out of that bunch. I mean, let's get this straight: I hate Ted Cruz's platform. I hate it. I hate his warhawk mentality, I hate his being forty years behind the times on civil rights, I hate his thinking that he can tell two people not to be together, or tell a woman what she can and can't do with her own body, and I hate his idiotic immigration policies. All that said, I believe he's more likely to scale back the mass spying on American citizens than any other candidate in the Republican field. Trump will have NSA malware scouring every corner of our personal electronic devices under the argument that if it can be connected to on the internet, the right to privacy does not apply. Rubio won't even try to be sneaky about it--he'll just drop new NSA facilities from sea to shining sea and tell us that, by and large, there's no evidence to suggest that their facilities are being used for anything other than homeland security on a large scale.
I mean, if it came down to Clinton or Cruz, lots of things go in the toilet for me, but Cruz goes on my ballot. Hillary was part of the team that helped Obama build the NSA data collection centers.
I'm so over Trump seriously at this point I might for the first time in my life vote Democrat if this [BLEEP] gets the nomination. I wouldn't be voting for ANYTHING the democrats stand for, as a matter of fact I can't think of a single issue I agree with them on, but I'll take the quick death of the economy with Sanders or Hillary over the slow death by a thousand cuts with Trump.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-...old-you-so
Cruz isn't even my guy but the way Trump has one by one targeted, attacked and nearly destroyed every GOP candidate tells me he's a Manchurian candidate pulling one of the best con jobs on the GOP.
Quote:Rubio's the only sensible one of the bunch, but I can't get behind someone who insists that bulk data collection is a good thing, and that there being "by and large" a lack of "evidence of mass abuse" (his words, not mine) makes spying on Americans justifiable. It's essentially an admission on his part that it's being misused, he knows it's being misused, but no one's told him exactly how or on what scale it's being misused.
I'd pick Cruz out of that bunch. I mean, let's get this straight: I hate Ted Cruz's platform. I hate it. I hate his warhawk mentality, I hate his being forty years behind the times on civil rights, I hate his thinking that he can tell two people not to be together, or tell a woman what she can and can't do with her own body, and I hate his idiotic immigration policies. All that said, I believe he's more likely to scale back the mass spying on American citizens than any other candidate in the Republican field. Trump will have NSA malware scouring every corner of our personal electronic devices under the argument that if it can be connected to on the internet, the right to privacy does not apply. Rubio won't even try to be sneaky about it--he'll just drop new NSA facilities from sea to shining sea and tell us that, by and large, there's no evidence to suggest that their facilities are being used for anything other than homeland security on a large scale.
I mean, if it came down to Clinton or Cruz, lots of things go in the toilet for me, but Cruz goes on my ballot. Hillary was part of the team that helped Obama build the NSA data collection centers.
I hate Cruz warkhawkish foreign policy my self and admit his Goldman Sachs ties concerns me but well I just posted a Trump tirade and Rubio is anti-privacy neo-con that makes Bush look like a saint. I'd expect a Rubio administration to push for crap like National ID cards, expanding the NSA, expanding federal reach on state matters, he's an Authoritarian to the core.
Damn it why can't the Libertarian party get it's act together and give us a viable third party already!
Quote:Damn it why can't the Libertarian party get it's act together and give us a viable third party already!
You think the other two parties would allow that? The only thing that can unite Democrats and Republicans is an actual third party.
Quote:Damn it why can't the Libertarian party get it's act together and give us a viable third party already!
Don't blame me! Though I disagree with many Libertarian ideas, I've voted Libertarian almost every chance I've been given since 2004. Including for State Governor. I did vote Green Party a couple of times where available though.
Price of tin foil going up!
I'm a pretty moderate voter and don't really care about party lines, and I wish we had more options.
That said - i'm curious - are there any Republicans out there that look at the top three candidates for their party and think "you've gotta be kidding me!" ?
I'm not opposed to voting Republican if the right guy is in the race, but I'm just wondering if more conservative voters than myself also see these three as unelectable?
Quote:I'm a pretty moderate voter and don't really care about party lines, and I wish we had more options.
That said - i'm curious - are there any Republicans out there that look at the top three candidates for their party and think "you've gotta be kidding me!" ?
I'm not opposed to voting Republican if the right guy is in the race, but I'm just wondering if more conservative voters than myself also see these three as unelectable?
Yes but I can hold my nose for Cruz
Quote:I'm a pretty moderate voter and don't really care about party lines, and I wish we had more options.
That said - i'm curious - are there any Republicans out there that look at the top three candidates for their party and think "you've gotta be kidding me!" ?
I'm not opposed to voting Republican if the right guy is in the race, but I'm just wondering if more conservative voters than myself also see these three as unelectable?
I see all three as electable. Cruz and Rubio are acceptable to most 'Pub voters and the favorites of many, and most people will vote for the lesser of two evils so even Trump could win over Hillary, especially if he plays up her sale of US policy to foreign governments for personal gain while Sec State.
Neither Hillary nor Monty Burns Sanders will draw out the African American vote like Obama did, so unless the Dems get someone else to run it will likely be a replay of the 2010 and 2014 midterms (hence my belief that Michelle will ultimately be the candidate).
If the economy tips over the edge the name in front of the R wont matter.
The freakshow continues in 20 minutes
I truly hope I'm wrong, but barring a finding of felonious or treasonous activity by the DOJ before the election, Hil will be the next POTUS. May g-d have mercy on our souls.
Hillary isnt nearly the candidate people think she is.
Quote:Hillary isnt nearly the candidate people think she is.
I agree 100%. I would rather stick rusty needles in my eyeballs than see her elected. But, the odds are HIL -110, next closest candidate (Trump at the moment) +260, and I really don't think it will matter which candidate makes it onto the GOP ticket.