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Apologies if this has been posted already.  I have not been on much the past few days.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...e-15-start

 

 

Quote:I read it JDub.


 

1) He was flat out wrong to claim that Caldwell has built the offense at the expense of the defense. In free agency this year he signed 3 defenders vs. two on offense. He also drafted for defense in the 1st, 3rd, and 4th rounds in this year's draft.


 

2) The defense has been predictable.


 

3) There is NO excuse for going 0-3 these last three weeks. The three teams we just played were A) a reeling Colts team with an OL in shambles starting a 40-year old backup who was in the hospital the previous and following days with a serious infection, B) A rookie QB who just threw four INTs the previous week and who's best offensive lineman was out, and C) a team that was still debating which QB to start between two guys who each had melted down earlier this season.


 

4) Watch the three plays starting at 6:15 in the 3rd quarter of Sunday's game. Then tell me why Gus Bradley is still the coach.


 

The rebuild is progressing well. Bradley hasn't. He's still making the same pathetic mistakes he made in 2013.

 

I really think this last sentence is the real reason that most fans have stopped believing in Gus Bradley as the Jags HC.

 

From the time Gus got here until now, the team has gotten better player/talent wise, but Gus seems to be the same rookie bad HC he was when he got here and it appears that he just continues to get out-coached and out schemed even by bottom feeder teams, teams missing their #1 QB and teams with rookie turn-over prone QBs.

 

I just think most people who have turned on Gus just believe that a better HC would have been able to find a win or 2 in there with this exact same team.

 

That's the most frustrating part of all of this to me.

Interesting comments by a Seahawks fan in the comment section

 

Quote:Not sure why Gus alway's seem's to get a free pass.. Even as Seattle's D coordinator he failed to make good adjustments... When Quinn took over it was night and day how much better our defense got... Gus should be on the hot seat...

 

Quote:Camron Medland-Young ... UM not true... Seattle's D got substantially better when Bradley left... Under Quinn our D was #1 in the leauge hands down and had one of the best statistical years ever .. Under Bradley Seattle's D did kinda what they've been doing lately, giving up games right at the end... Quinn had Seattle's D #1 in the league for 2 straight years, and they closed out games, other than last years Super-Bowl, but injuries were a huge factor in that one...

The truth comes out.

Quote:Interesting comments by a Seahawks fan in the comment section

The same Quinn D that got smacked in the mouth by old and slow Ben Watson, who was all but uncoverable on Thursday?

'preciate the link!

Quote:Interesting comments by a Seahawks fan in the comment section

 

 

 

 

 

 

Makes sense, I always wondered...

 

So this articles wants me to pretty much ignore all the facts, got it! :thumbsup:

Quote:The same Quinn D that got smacked in the mouth by old and slow Ben Watson, who was all but uncoverable on Thursday?

Yep. That guy.


Rookie head coach is 5-1 and gives up yards to Ben Watson? He should be on the hot seat.

yes... this is very much an 'outsiders' opinion. so far outside that it's not only irrelevant but insulting to the fans who follow the team closely.

Quote:yes... this is very much an 'outsiders' opinion. so far outside that it's not only irrelevant but insulting to the fans who follow the team closely.

 

Nah. I wasn't insulted at all.

Quote:I really think this last sentence is the real reason that most fans have stopped believing in Gus Bradley as the Jags HC.


From the time Gus got here until now, the team has gotten better player/talent wise, but Gus seems to be the same rookie bad HC he was when he got here and it appears that he just continues to get out-coached and out schemed even by bottom feeder teams, teams missing their #1 QB and teams with rookie turn-over prone QBs.


I just think most people who have turned on Gus just believe that a better HC would have been able to find a win or 2 in there with this exact same team.


That's the most frustrating part of all of this to me.

And that's a fair point.

Quote:I really think this last sentence is the real reason that most fans have stopped believing in Gus Bradley as the Jags HC.


From the time Gus got here until now, the team has gotten better player/talent wise, but Gus seems to be the same rookie bad HC he was when he got here and it appears that he just continues to get out-coached and out schemed even by bottom feeder teams, teams missing their #1 QB and teams with rookie turn-over prone QBs.


I just think most people who have turned on Gus just believe that a better HC would have been able to find a win or 2 in there with this exact same team.


That's the most frustrating part of all of this to me.

Well said.


I'd like to also add that as this season has progressed, I no longer see Gus as a place holder for the next coach anymore.


With the benching of house and the comments of that TE, it's my opinion that Bradley is actually negatively impacting this team.


I think cutting out the instigator and perpetuator of our losing philosophy as soon as possible is the correct approach the front office should take.

I really hope this gets turned around and I also really hope some way, some how who we have now can make it work. I think another regime change, another O-coordinator will hurt this budding offense. That's the hope.

 

The reality is that there are mistakes being made that are hard to ignore. Have we ever won a challenge, ever? That's the kind of things that are infuriating to fans. The defense stinks, but there's reason for that, no rush at all which hurts the entire secondary and has a snowball effect with the entire team. I think with a couple of changes there we can be an OK defense, but the mistakes outside of talent are what's hard to swallow.

Quote:The same Quinn D that got smacked in the mouth by old and slow Ben Watson, who was all but uncoverable on Thursday?

Obviously the Atlanta D does not have the talent the Seahawks do.

Quote:Well said.


I'd like to also add that as this season has progressed, I no longer see Gus as a place holder for the next coach anymore.


With the benching of house and the comments of that TE, it's my opinion that Bradley is actually negatively impacting this team.


I think cutting out the instigator and perpetuator of our losing philosophy as soon as possible is the correct approach the front office should take.

 

Right to the point. Not just now, but long term.

Quote:yes... this is very much an 'outsiders' opinion. so far outside that it's not only irrelevant but insulting to the fans who follow the team closely.

Jeff Darlington is actually a pretty good writer. I believe he writes for the Dolphins primarily, but he's a UF graduate so he's definitely not as "outsider" as some other NFL writers. He's a good twitter follow too.

See JDub's thread "Reasons ..."

Can we please stop talking about everyone's D and get back to football?

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">From that link they wrote:

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">How, you ask, can we possibly use the word "encouraging" to describe a 1-5 team? How, you wonder, can Bradley possibly deserve patience when Jacksonville's defense (his specialty) ranks 30th and last in takeaways and third-down %?

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> 

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">The article goes on to answer those questions. If you want to know what is encouraging on our team, look no further 

 

 

The articles answers the first question. It ignores the second. At best it gives a lame excuse why the offense should be ahead of the defense, but that doesn't excuse a total defensive collapse.


 

And the failure is not that the team is 1-5. The failure is that the team is 0-3 in its last three games against garbage opponents.

It's not just a time of day anymore