Quote:Dallas was a playoff team the year before Garrett took over. Actually, 2006-2009 Dallas had a winning record. He followed his intern season in 2010 with back to back to back 8-8 seasons. Garret has 1 winning season in his 4 full years as head coach.
Garrett's head was called for multiple times for turning a perennial winning team into a .500 team. The only reason he stuck around was because of his personal relationship with Jerry Jones.
Garrett isn't the type of "success" story I want as a head coach.
Again, its not the point.
Quote:Marty Shottenheimer, Jeff Fisher, and Jason Garret? If any of that type of coach were on the Jaguars, you'd be an idiot not to give him a chance. They've all been to superbowls, outside of Garret, who has consistant, deep playoff level teams.
Its besides the point,anyway. People who want Marrone to take over, including myself, sound like they highly doubt he is the answer. People want to win games, plain and simple. We have drafted in the top 10 for the past decade, still nothing. David Caldwell should be a savy enough GM to find a player later than the 10th pick. Even if Marrone finished 6-10 we would likely have a top 10 pick anyway.
We dont need a QB, picking that high is pretty unnecessary if we take a LB/CB/OG/DT.
Oh boy, i actually agree with everything you said EXCEPT, letting Marrone take over. If he is not the answer, like Gus right, don't waste anymore time until we have a decent list of candidates. Everyone we interview should have some type of past success, so lets not jump the gun and end up shooting ourselves in the foot. If he has decent success, who's to say no other HC, playoff team Coordinator, or any "OK" coach couldn't have and then we give him the job. With 4-5 wins as the deal maker and the easiest part of the schedule coming up, wouldn't that be a pointless HC evaluation.
Why are Fisher and Garett being mentioned? Both average coaches. Fisher has done nothing of note in about a decade.
Taking a team to a Superbowl once is hardly anything amazing, plenty of mediocre coaches have done it. John Fox most recently.
Quote:Again, its not the point.
What's the point? Would a 6-10 season be all that much better than a 4-12 season?
Quote:What's the point? Would a 6-10 season be all that much better than a 4-12 season?
Yes. It means the Jags close out the season 5-5.
Quote:What's the point? Would a 6-10 season be all that much better than a 4-12 season?
Do you see this team going 4-12 under Gus Bradley? Serious question, im not being a smart [BAD WORD REMOVED].
I dont. I dont even think Marrone would be able to get to 6-10, but hey, why not atleast try to see if he can. If Marrone went 5-4, would you not be impressed? I know I, along with all Jag fans, would love to see some more wins.
This team doesn't need a QB. We will likely take a LB/CB/OG/DT A top 5 pick isnt needed. Like I said before, Caldwell should be savy enough to get a quality mid round 1st round pick, even though 6-10 would probably get us a top 10 pick anyway. He, ideally, would have to do it sometime anyway, right?
This team needs wins.
Quote:Again, its not the point.
It's 100% about the point being made in the post I quoted.
Firing Del Rio mid season for an intern coach really jump started this franchise.
Quote:It's 100% about the point being made in the post I quoted.
Its really not. I even said in the quote that its not the point. I said people want to win, and I think most believe that Marrone isnt the answer.
If he isnt the answer, get a new HC in the offseason, like we will likely do anyway. This team needs to win, especially when our season ticket sales plummet next year.
Quote:Do you see this team going 4-12 under Gus Bradley? Serious question, im not being a smart [BAD WORD REMOVED].
I dont. I dont even think Marrone would be able to get to 6-10, but hey, why not atleast try to see if he can. If Marrone went 5-4, would you not be impressed? I know I, along with all Jag fans, would love to see some more wins.
This team doesn't need a QB. A top 5 pick isnt needed. Like I said before, Caldwell should be savy enough to get a quality mid round 1st round pick, even though 6-10 would probably get us a top 10 pick anyway.
This team needs wins.
I'm sure Gus could. Its not hard to luck into a couple of wins. Gus has been doing it for the past 2 seasons.
I'm tired of settling. I want to be really damn good or really damn bad. This settling for just ok is why we are in this situation as it is. This defense needs a complete overhaul and we need to catch lightning in a bottle for once. A Calvin Johnson or Von Miller type pick would really do this team wonders. I would rather have the chance to pick from the best of the bunch vs picking from what's left over.
Quote:Firing Del Rio mid season for an intern coach really jump started this franchise.
I guess we should stick with the 8-31 coach then.
Quote:Its really not. I even said in the quote that its not the point. I said people want to win, and I think most believe that Marrone isnt the answer.
If he isnt the answer, get a new HC in the offseason, like we will likely do anyway. This team needs to win, especially when our season ticket sales plummet next year.
When I am referring to your post I will quote them.
Quote:I'm sure Gus could. Its not hard to luck into a couple of wins. Gus has been doing it for the past 2 seasons.
I'm tired of settling. I want to be really damn good or really damn bad. This settling for just ok is why we are in this situation as it is. This defense needs a complete overhaul and we need to catch lightning in a bottle for once. A Calvin Johnson or Von Miller type pick would really do this team wonders. I would rather have the chance to pick from the best of the bunch vs picking from what's left over.
We've been really damn bad for about 10 years now. Being "ok" would be a godsend.
The Jags wouldnt have to keep Marrone, and if they did, they would atleast have 9 games they can go off of.
Quote:Honestly from an owner stand point, that's the right thing to say. Obviously he'll address things if we can't turn it around by season end, but do you really want him bashing Gus to the media? The owner/GM/HC trio is probably the most important thing to be in sync to build a franchise. I'd rather a patient owner than one who wants to blow it up every year. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it's working this go around.
We have one of the easier schedules to end the season, let's see how things play out first.
Exactly! It would be dumb of khan to start bashing publicly because at that point what's the point. It wouldn't accomplish anything. He's gotta play nice till he's ready to crap can em.
Quote:Well, just to answer your question, it would also allow the team a chance to see if Marrone is any good at the HC position instead of trying to make that decision after the season based on nothing.
Marrone has experience as a head coach already. He has a full season of work from last season you can judge him on if that's what you're looking for.
Quote:I guess we should stick with the 8-31 coach then.
There isn't much to be gained by firing the coach mid season unless you are trying to emulate the move that began the franchises current death spiral.