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Quote:Jeff Garcia - journeyman
Josh McCown - journeyman
Steve Young - journeyman?
Journeyman is someone who journeys through the nfl, usually as a back up, but also getting starts or "shots" throughout his career.
Not sure I'd even classify Hasselbeck as a journeyman because he was "the man" in Seattle for so long and even took them to a Superbowl.
Though he did journey south (AFCS) and backup a couple teams.
Garcia had time on the west coast, in Tampa, and had some mild success in Philly.
I think he hasn't officially retired, hoping to get a call.
......suppose that's a silly thing to argue over though, eh?
Quote:also... this from wiki
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journeyman quarterback is a term used for an
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Football'>American Football</a> (typically
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL'>NFL</a>)
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback'>quarterback</a> who plays for several teams over a career. Such a player is typically signed to year-by-year contracts, and may be signed by a team to fill in for an injured starter. The term is normally
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative'>pejorative</a>.
Many journeymen quarterbacks are seen as having mediocre talent, or having just enough talent to be the team's backup. True journeymen quarterbacks play for several teams in a career, and may go several years between starting jobs. However a number of quarterbacks clearly have talent, including some who won Super Bowls, were drafted no. 1 overall in the NFL draft, and/or who went on to amass significant career statistics.
Garcia, Orton, Buerlein, Dilfer, Testeverde
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_quarterback'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_quarterback</a>
Continue being a fool Predator, I'm officially out, with consensus opinion. Good luck in this life, god knows you're gonna need it. As you offered advice to me, I will so to you, you to learn how to not make such a complete clown of yourself, especially when you are sinking on your own ship, by yourself, LOL! Since you are so good good with google, check out logic, abstract thinking, reality, context, phrases, lingo, and how to get girls to notice you. I'll be praying for you my brother! Hey, at least you got to witness David Garrard, one of the better Journeyman QBs (can't argue, can you) you've ever gotten to witness in real life! Assuming your parents let you at such an important learning age! If you ever need help with logic or abstract thinking, I've actually got a masters in physics and education, so hit me up! PM please because you've sufficiently embarrassed me by dragging me to your level on this thread. I'm also good at explaining commonly used phrases or jargon that most average people understand, if you need help with that! I hope your Webster didn't get too worn out or your head hurts to much from such a complex topic. LOL!!! And while you're at it, stop spending so much time focusing on the word special, your mom had it right the whole time, just go with that! Again, context!
I look forward to you to continue to flail away, however, sweetheart, I will not be back. Besos!
If Joeckel has another rough year, that will be the focal point of the offseason, between FA or the draft. The fact that I believe in Bortles leads me to believe, IMO, this is the most critical issue the team faces. If Joeckel comes thru, I don't think the everyday fan realizes how monumental that is to this franchise!
How many times are you going to say you are letting it go yet you just posted 7 back to back post just to continue the argument.
We can chalk this down to yet another example of you talking out your rear.
You will never win this argument. You just sound like a drunk babbling idiot at this point. LOL!
You reek of desperation. This is down right hilarious and so fitting for you. Keep these gems coming please!
LOL!
Here are some guys I would look at in next years free agency. If we could pull in 2 of these and some extra depth Id be very happy.
Trent Williams, Tashaun Gipson, Justin Houston, Von Miller, Eric Berry, AJ Green/ Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, Bruce Irvin, Bobby Wagner, Rolondo McClain, Bradley Fletcher, Janoris Jenkins
Quote:Here are some guys I would look at in next years free agency. If we could pull in 2 of these and some extra depth Id be very happy.
Trent Williams, Tashaun Gipson, Justin Houston, Von Miller, Eric Berry, AJ Green/ Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, Bruce Irvin, Bobby Wagner, Rolondo McClain, Bradley Fletcher, Janoris Jenkins
Be very interesting to see how many, if any really hit the market. But a few Id love to have.
Maybe we get lucky, we are damn sure due.
Quote:Here are some guys I would look at in next years free agency. If we could pull in 2 of these and some extra depth Id be very happy.
Trent Williams, Tashaun Gipson, Justin Houston, Von Miller, Eric Berry, AJ Green/ Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, Bruce Irvin, Bobby Wagner, Rolondo McClain, Bradley Fletcher, Janoris Jenkins
Gipson, Berry or Wagner would be huge gets.
The rest look like they won't hit FA or will be big character risks. Maybe put Irvin in the worth the risk category, need vs cost/ concern.
Quote:also... this from wiki
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journeyman quarterback is a term used for an
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Football'>American Football</a> (typically
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL'>NFL</a>)
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback'>quarterback</a> who plays for several teams over a career. Such a player is typically signed to year-by-year contracts, and may be signed by a team to fill in for an injured starter. The term is normally
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative'>pejorative</a>.
Many journeymen quarterbacks are seen as having mediocre talent, or having just enough talent to be the team's backup. True journeymen quarterbacks play for several teams in a career, and may go several years between starting jobs. However a number of quarterbacks clearly have talent, including some who won Super Bowls, were drafted no. 1 overall in the NFL draft, and/or who went on to amass significant career statistics.
Garcia, Orton, Buerlein, Dilfer, Testeverde
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_quarterback'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_quarterback</a>
Can I just say from this, by this statement Steve Young does qualify as a journeyman.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several'>http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several</a>
Several classes as more than 2, and the article says played for several 'teams' not specifically NFL team, so by definition Steve Young who played for 3 teams is classed as a journeyman by the very same article used to say that he wasn't.
Quote:Can I just say from this, by this statement Steve Young does qualify as a journeyman.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several'>http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several</a>
Several classes as more than 2, and the article says played for several 'teams' not specifically NFL team, so by definition Steve Young who played for 3 teams is classed as a journeyman by the very same article used to say that he wasn't.
I guess that means Brett Favre was a journeyman Qb as well.
He played for 2 teams early in his career and another 2 later on in his career.
Heck, I guess that means he was a journeyman QB early in his career and a journeyman QB late in his career.
Quote:I guess that means Brett Favre was a journeyman Qb as well.
He played for 2 teams early in his career and another 2 later on in his career.
Heck, I guess that means he was a journeyman QB early in his career and a journeyman QB late in his career.
Technically by the article posted, that is correct.
Journeyman QB in the context it's used in the NFL is quite obviously not a description of Young or Favre. Let's understand this, please. This is beyond dumb.
Quote:Can I just say from this, by this statement Steve Young does qualify as a journeyman.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several'>http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several</a>
Several classes as more than 2, and the article says played for several 'teams' not specifically NFL team, so by definition Steve Young who played for 3 teams is classed as a journeyman by the very same article used to say that he wasn't.
Do you have any idea what you've done!!??
Quote:Do you have any idea what you've done!!??
I was bored
I wouldn't be surprised if Alex Mack ended up in Jacksonville in 2016.
Quote:I wouldn't be surprised if Alex Mack ended up in Jacksonville in 2016.
Meh, I would. At this point he'd probably be like 31 in his first season here. We're already building the team young and I think we'd pass now at his price tag. We got Wiz who could very well be the future for us, a capable young center in Bowanko, not to mention AJ Cann who many analysts believed plays just as good as a center (if not better) compared to guard.
All else fails we'd more than likely just take a swing at a center early in the 2016 draft.
Quote:Journeyman QB in the context it's used in the NFL is quite obviously not a description of Young or Favre. Let's understand this, please. This is beyond dumb.
The context of the NFL? Who died made you the judge of context? Wikipedia? Maybe you should write your own wiki article to declare yourself as the say all for the english language and then you will have something to cite as proof. LOL!
Certainly not the multiple writers that referred to him as a journeyman at the begining of his career. Certainly not the webster dictionary.
A player who played for 3 teams and two leagues in his first 5 seasons only to get relagated to a backup for the next 5 years can and has been in actual articles, referred to a journeyman at that stage of his career.
And your 1 wikipedia article, that can't even actually contridict that sentiment, isn't going to change it.
Quote:I wouldn't be surprised if Alex Mack ended up in Jacksonville in 2016.
I kinda would. I think that between Wisniewski and Bowanko, the Jaguars have their center.
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